German Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller stated a critical point: that although he was “generally in favor of dialogue,” “any form of relativism” has to be avoided. Unfortunately, Pope Francis did not keep that in mind as he bemoaned Israel’s “genocide” in Gaza. He also obliquely justified the murders of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists for their offense to Islam, while he virtually ignored the massacre and persecution of Christians; and at the Bahrain Forum for Dialogue, the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar “played the Pope like a cheap fiddle.” In the spirit of “dialogue,” for his last Christmas, Pope Francis prayed to a “Palestinian” Jesus lying wrapped in a keffiyeh. It has become customary for Islam to dominate every “dialogue” session, with “Islamophobia” being the central focus as a means to minimize the atrocities committed in the name of Islam.
“Müller is among the conservative clergy who have been warning for years that showing too much tolerance towards other religions could water down the Catholic faith.” The Church now stands at a crossroads. It cannot afford to continue along the path of Pope Francis. As far back as 2019, over 1500 Catholic scholars and priests wrote a letter to Pope Francis accusing him of “the ‘canonical delict of heresy.'” Will the Church now continue down the road of Pope Francis?
A mix of traditionalists, woke globalists and a mix of both are on the short list to become the next pope.
“German cardinal hopes new pope will backtrack on Islam, LGBT issues,” DPA International, April 24, 2025:
German Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, one of late Pope Francis’ fiercest critics, on Thursday said he hopes the new pontiff will reverse course on some of the more progressive issues pushed by the pontiff, including dialogue with Muslims.
Müller told Italian daily La Repubblicca that he thought it was possible to “enter into dialogue” with Muslims “on the level of reason.”
“They respect certain principles of natural ethics and believe in God in their own way,” he said.
“But we have to ask ourselves how it’s possible for someone, who believes in God, the creator of humankind, to kill in the name of God,” Müller added, apparently referring to Islamist extremism.
The cardinal went on to say that while he was generally in favour of dialogue, “any form of relativism” has to be avoided.
Müller is among the conservative clergy who have been warning for years that showing too much tolerance towards other religions could water down the Catholic faith.
Pope Francis, who passed away on Easter Monday, always advocated for dialogue with other religions, including Islam.
The late pontiff also promoted openness towards marginalized groups, including homosexuals, drawing ire from conservative forces within the Church when he approved blessings for same-sex couples in 2023.
Müller said he hoped the new pope, who will be elected by cardinals in the coming weeks, will reverse the course chartered by Francis regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans (LGBT) issues….
Hoi Polloi says
We can hope that voices such as his will hold sway, but I’ve read repeatedly that Francis spent his years there stacking the deck with men like himself. It’s now or never; Catholics should speak out forcefully against a redux.
William Kemmler says
134 Cardinals eligible to vote. 104 of those Cardinals were elevated to the position by Francis. Therefore, there is no expectation that the College of Cardinals will elect a traditionalist, Catholic pope.
Nope, we will just get another liberal, wishy-washy, no real faith, flapping in the winds of fad Pope no better than the last Pontiff and possibly worse.
Feisty Granny says
I believe Cardinal Robert Sarah would be best. He is truly God’s apostle, adhering to the teachings of our Lord . But they won’t pick him, citing his age (79). In reality the majority of them want to make their own rules. But I believe Sarah would bring so many Catholics who have fallen to the wayside many back to the church. But do we really want the Vatican to be as strong as they were just a few decades ago?
Alkflaeda says
It seems to me that there is just a chink of a possibility that Cardinal Sarah could get in if the woke types decide that it is time for a man of colour to be Pope. Sometimes God’s reasons are very different from those of man.
Joseph C. De Maria Esq. says
Sadly, this is true. He has filled the College of Cardinals with other prelates who share his Leftist-leaning views. What we need now is a Black African pope, as they currently are the most faithful to Church doctrine.
Leonidas says
Islam ( submission)will collapse ,like USSR in 1989,if we DENOUNCE pseudo prophet criminal MUHAMMAD,who according to his biography( Sira) and traditions( Hadith) was a pedophile( wife Aisha was 9 yo), rapist, murderer, torturer , bandit (keeping20% of the booty for himself),liar and sex-slave trader, deserving no reverence but our contempt and also LIBERATE THE MUSLIM WOMEN from barbaric misogynistic Sharia Law.The Koran ( recitation)states women are dumb, less intelligent than men,wives must be beaten for disobedience by their hudbands ,all women will go to hell, unless in the last day their husband says he was pleased with her and all women must hide their curves and wear burkas ,so that men will not be aroused to rape them.Islam is a misogynistic ,violent , imperialist political ideology of Muslim supremacy ISLAMOFASCISM(>70%), DISGUISED AS A RELIGION(< 30%) that strives through violent Jihad and soft cultural Jihad of immigration ( dawa, Hijra)to subjugate the World.Jihadists are promised, if killed battling infidels-kafirs,) they will go to Paradise to enjoy 72 virgins ,taking along 70 of their relatives regardless of their sins!Muslim Immigration is Hijra( flight)to take over the country they settle in ,like Muhammad did to Yatrib-Medina.This, along with forced child marriages and four wives per man ( Bin Laden had 52 siblings and 16 children),the muslims will soon outnumber the local populations and will impose Sharia law .Withdraw from UN MIGRANT COMPACT ,that falsely claims immigration is a Human Right expecting Western countries to accept and provide for an endless number of muslim illegal immigrants ,thus islamizing them. Muslim “refugees “should stay in Turkey or vast rich Saudi Arabia ,until they can return to their countries.We must denounce islamic Sharia (=way)law of blasphemer,apostate ,homosexual , adulterer and hypocrite executions,misogyny,honor killings by stoning,hand amputations for theft,child brides,girls exclusion from schools,halal meat from tortured animals,clitorectomies,subjugation and segregation of women,burkas and Sharia banning of short skirts,bikinis,dancing,singing,painting ,sculptures of people,dogs,pork,alcohol and beauty contests .Demand gender equality for ALL muslim women.Punish severely those that kill apostates from Islam,blasphemers,adulterers or muslim hypocrites.Islam is incompatible with our freedom of speech, gender equality, values,way of life, Human Rights, Constitution, Republic and population stability needed to sustain Life on Earth.Tolerating intolerant Islam is cultural suicide!For more info on Islam go to YOU TUBE for: ApostateProphet,Exmuslims,David Wood,Ayan Hirsi Ali,BrigitteGabriel,BillWarner,Politicalislam.org,PamelaGeller,Jihadwatch,Nonie Darwish , Wafa Sultan,Richard Dawkins on Islam,Ani Cyrus , Geert Wilder,obsession – what the West needs to know.Also Google: Wikiislam, The religion of peace,barenakedislam, MEMRI etc.Watch the deposition of Ayan Hirsi Ali in Congress on"how to defeatIslam":https://www.hoover.org/research/challenge-dawa-political-islam-ideology-and-movement-and-how-counter-it
Tim gallagher says
Spot on, Leonidas. Now if only people everywhere would wake up and see stinking, evil, barbaric islam clearly as the poison that it is we could deal appropriately with it. The Hungarians and poles see Islam clearly. Time for everybody to wake up to what a load of filth Islam is
Winston 101 says
Leonidas,
Thank you for all the good information and links etc.
James Lincoln says
The Catholic Laity should have at least some input in the selection of a new Pope.
Wellington says
Lot’s of luck, buddy. Ain’t gonna’ happen because Vatican II killed the old Catholic Church (N.B., to this day I don’t think enough traditional Catholics realize how much harm Vatican II did) and said Church is never coming back.
It’s only a matter of time before there is gay marriage (or some equivalent like civil unions—already half-way there with Francis sanctioning the blessing of gay couples) in the new and pseudo Catholic Church and other rubbish along these lines. Yes, there might be some kickback against this, but it will only be ultimately rear-guard actions (excuse the double entendre here respecting the “new priesthood”) that will certainly fail just as John Paul II’s and Benedict XVI’s, both good men, efforts failed against the rot that Vatican II spawned and which Francis enthusiastically endorsed, being the clueless Latin American Leftist that he was.
My overall take: The Roman Catholic Church of old is dead forever. It has been replaced with an anti-civilizational and silly pseudo Catholic Church which is just fine, among so many other idiocies, with the destruction of Western Civilization from within, the very civilization which is SOLELY responsible for the Catholic Church in the first place. Francis was the recent “poster boy” of this idiocy, though he will be lauded tomorrow at his funeral and thus tending to validate Napoleon’s cynical view of history, that it is a pack of lies agreed upon. More to come, heaps of bad stuff I fear.
tgusa says
“German cardinal hopes new pope will backtrack on Islam, LGBT issues”
Speaking of islam and lgbt.
“SPAIN: Gay councilor from the Socialist Party who supports diversity visits kebab shop to show solidarity with the Muslim community, and gets beaten up.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4313328/posts
Regarding islam and lgbt. I dont care who you are you cant have it both ways. It is astonishing how many “rights” groups have betrayed their cause. They think they are so righteous, so progressive, so ahead of the game. In the future the ones that are guilty of that now will be considered backstabbing traitors by people within their particular groups. If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny to watch.
John Pepple says
I used to be very supportive of gays, but when it became clear that most of them were supporting Muslims, I changed direction. It is astonishing that so many of them still haven’t figured out that Muslims are their worst enemy.
James Lincoln says
John,
They will figure it out about two seconds before they are decapitated.
tgusa says
Gays for beheadings.
Feminists for the burka.
Blacks for the KKK, etc, etc.
“Life is tough, but it’s a whole lot tougher if you’re stupid”.
John Wayne.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link.
Holger Kruger says
Yes Poul France are dead, and the is good for the most og the wold. If i can rank him from 1-10 will it be -10 for being the worst pope as all. Hope the new pope will do his work as pope and generally take distance from muslim and glorify christen most more. Because Catholicism are a Christian believe and not a Islamic believe.
Lady of the Lake says
Douglass-Williams writes “It has become customary for Islam to dominate every “dialogue” session, with “Islamophobia” being the central focus as a means to minimize the atrocities committed in the name of Islam”. Absolutely great line, The whole lead-in report listing the true ugliness of Francis‘ shocking plays stuns the reader in a skillfully unvarnished way. Christ would be (is) appalled at this garbage resting on his image.
gravenimage says
German cardinal hopes new pope will backtrack on Islam, LGBT issues
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Not sure–so far, he seems to be much like Francis on many points, He seems to *hate* capitalism and free trade, and even the Industrial Revolution(!).