Is this guy an “extremist”?
“Allah made a covenant of old with the children of Israel and we raised among them twelve chieftains, and Allah said, Indeed, I am with you. If you establish prayer and give alms, and believe in my messengers and support them, and lend a good loan to Allah, surely I will forgive your sins, and surely I will bring you into gardens under which rivers flow. Whoever among you disbelieves after this will go astray from a plain road. And because of their breaking their covenant, we have cursed them and hardened their hearts.” (Qur’an 5:12-13)
“We made a covenant of old with the children of Israel and we sent them messengers. As often as a messenger came to them with what their souls did not desire, some they denied and some they killed. They thought no harm would come of it, so they were willfully blind and deaf. And afterward Allah turned toward them. Now many of them are willfully blind and deaf. Allah is the seer of what they do.” (Qur’an 5:70-71)
“Kansas City Friday Sermon: The Jews Are Cursed by Allah; They Murdered the Prophets Sent to Them; They Claimed to Have Killed Jesus,” MEMRI, July 12, 2024:
In a Friday, July 12, 2024 sermon at the Islamic Center of Kansas in Kansas City, KS, the imam said that the Jews had broken their covenant with Allah and murdered His prophets, and as a result lost Allah’s favor and are now cursed by Him. The sermon was livestreamed on the Islamic Center’s YouTube channel.
somehistory says
The Jews never had a ‘covenant’ with islam’s false god (satan the devil).
The Jews made a covenant, a.k.a. a promise, with the God of the Bible, Jehovah to faithfully obey Him and He would care for them…good crops, healthy animals, prospering in their families.
What is more, the Jews have never claimed to have killed Jesus. In reality, the Pharisees, the Sanhedrin, the priests, who refused to recognize Jesus as the Messiah, convinced the Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, that Jesus was claiming to be King and that He was a threat to the Roman government. Pilate ceded to their demands and had Jesus hung along with two criminals.
This creepy mozlum liar, looks a lot like the former head cheese of iran….the madinajad goon who was a part of the holding of Americans hostage back in the late ’70’s/early 80’s.
Why is he here? And another thing Some mozlum clerics say Jesus didn’t die, but another man took his place. So this guy seems to have missed the memo.
Palestinian Red Crescent Society says
* “The Jews never had a ‘covenant’ with islam’s false god (satan the devil).”
There is no Allah, of course, but not because you believe ‘satan the devil’ actually exists.
* “Some mozlum clerics say Jesus didn’t die, but another man took his place.”
They’re as blinded by their superstitions as you are of yours.
Sir John says
Why is it that Christians do not hate Jews but yet a certain part of Muslims hate the Jewish people ? Does it have anything to do it all with what they are taught ?
PRCS says
Yes, it’s what they’re taught.
Islam teaches Jew hatred.
Numerous passagesl in Qur’an, hadith, sira, the rulings and opinions of so-called Islamic scholars make that clear.
And, it’s not a ‘certain part’ of Muslims.
Push come to chop, it’s every Muslim.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
“Pilate ceded to their demands and had Jesus hung along with two criminals”
Jesus wasn’t crucified?
somehistory says
He wasn’t hung by the neck, but was nailed by his hands and feet. It was the method the Romans used to “hang” criminals. The ones hung would suffocate because their legs would be broken and therefore, unable to push up to relieve the pressure on their lungs and heart.
So, simply put, he was crucified. He died before the Roman guards came around to break His legs, fulfilling the Scripture about Him, “not a bone was broken.” The guard punctured His side, causing blood to flow, thus fulfilling the Scripture about His blood being ‘poured out’ for our sins to be forgiven.
PalestinianRedCrescentSociety says
“fulfilling the Scripture about His blood being ‘poured out’ for our sins to be forgiven.”
Our sins?
Your religious beliefs are irrelevant to most of the world’s population.
WPM says
To PalestinianRedCrescentSociety
Yes according to Christians Jesus died for everyone’s sins Christian and non -Christian according to the Christian faith we are all made in the image of God .We are all children of God according to the Christian faith .I know according to your faith non-believers in Allah are just beasts pigs ,monkey and are to expected to be treated by Moslems accordingly as animals .If your opinion of our religion (Christianity)is irrelevant to the rest of the world why are you so offended by it as it give you respect as a fellow human with dignity as a fellow human being? If our religion is irrelevant why do care what we believe or not believe ?If the Jewish faith is wrong why do care what they believe or not believe? Why are Moslems forever mad and angry at the rest of the world is it because they do not feel relevant enough ?
Joe says
Then we all know where ‘most of the world’ is headed.
PRCS says
@WPM
“I know according to your faith”
As a friendly FYI, I’m an atheist. Born in the U.S., grew up in a nominally Catholic household, have never been to a predominantly Muslim country, never been a Muslim, am absolutely opposed to the infiltration of religious law into my nation’s secular, man-made laws, and despite what Christianity teaches–I reject the notion that I was born with ‘original sin’.
I come here to read/view JW articles/videos to learn why/how past, current, and potential future threats Muslims pose to the rest of us, the world over–atheists included.
What other religions teach is irrelevant to this site’s purpose, and, frankly I don’t often see the followers of other faiths telling others here about theirs.
I use the ‘Palestinian’ moniker when posting to somehistory to remind her how stupid it was to conclude the meaning of my military rate/rank upon retirement from the U.S. Navy (PRCS) means Palestinian Red Crescent Society.
Did I mention she also accused me of wanting to rape children? Certainly not very Christian of her, eh?
Enjoy your day.
PRCS says
@Joe,
Most of the world’s population have their own religious beliefs.
somehistory says
And by the way, Mark, there are at least 20 secular sources, some written by those who opposed Christianity, confirming what the Bible says about Jesus.
PRCS says
Kansas City, Kansas: Imam says that Jews have ‘now become cursed by Allah’
Sep 11, 2024 5:00 pm By Robert Spencer2 Comments
Is this guy an “extremist”?
Well, as that Islamoignoramous big mouth Sean Hannity, who, having apparently missed the following JW article continues to push the bogus term “radical Islamic terrorism” would probably say yes.
https://jihadwatch.org/2024/07/kamala-harris-calls-for-courage-to-object-to-term-radical-islamic-terrorism
Kamala Harris Calls for ‘Courage to Object’ to Term ‘Radical Islamic Terrorism’
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I am reminded, here, of British citizens who were recently arrested for, among other things, yelling, “Who the ef is Allah?”. With the following horribly crafted suras in mind—-a valid question. Is he one dude, or a committee?
“Allah [should be I] made a covenant of old with the children of Israel and we [should be I] raised among them twelve chieftains, and Allah [should be I] said, Indeed, I am with you. If you establish prayer and give alms, and believe in my messengers and support them, and lend a good loan to Allah [should be ‘to me’], surely I will forgive your sins, and surely I will bring you into gardens under which rivers flow. Whoever among you disbelieves after this will go astray from a plain road. And because of their breaking their covenant, we [should be I] have cursed them and hardened their hearts.” (Qur’an 5:12-13)
“We [should be I] made a covenant of old with the children of Israel and we [should be I] sent them messengers. As often as a messenger came to them with what their souls did not desire, some they denied and some they killed. They thought no harm would come of it, so they were willfully blind and deaf. And afterward Allah [should be I] turned toward them. Now many of them are willfully blind and deaf. Allah [should be I] is the seer of what they do.” (Qur’an 5:70-71)
Surely the ‘all knowing’ Allah should have caught those grammatical errors before the Big Book went to print.
James Lincoln says
PRCS,
“…Sean Hannity, who, having apparently missed the following JW article continues to push the bogus term “radical Islamic terrorism”
My guess is that Fox News requires the adjective “radical” in regard to islamic terrorism.
PRCS says
I would like to aggree, shipmate, but former President Donald Trump, Senators Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, Congressman Mike Waltz—and others—all use that idiotic term.
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My personal opinion: they know as little about Islam as Joe Biden who once attempted to school Ayan Hirsi Ali about Islam.
“That will prove difficult. In her speech to the dinner guests in Washington, Hirsi Ali recalled meeting Vice President Joe Biden. He informed her that “ISIS had nothing to do with Islam.” When she disagreed with him, Biden actually responded: “Let me tell you one or two things about Islam.””
Biden tried to lecture Hirsi Ali about Islam
https://jihadwatch.org/2014/12/biden-tried-to-lecture-hirsi-ali-about-islam
More, I suspect, that too many of our friends and neighbors have been conditioned to and still do believe there are ‘moderate’ and ‘extremist’ versions of Islam.
James Lincoln says
PRCS,
Thank you for your informed reply.
PRCS says
You’re welcome!
gravenimage says
+1
bagsgroove says
To hell with muslims,but satan won’t let them in, so we are stuck with them. Damn it !
gravenimage says
Kansas City, Kansas: Imam says that Jews have ‘now become cursed by Allah’
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Mainstream Islam, I’m afraid. And of course Jews have never said they killed Jesus.
And here is how Islam *really* reguards Jesus, in any case:
“Switzerland: Muslim migrant leftist politician ‘relaxes’ by shooting images of Jesus and Mary”
https://jihadwatch.org/2024/09/switzerland-muslim-migrant-leftist-politician-relaxes-by-shooting-images-of-jesus-and-mary
CalvinsLutheran says
That’s about as anti-Christ as they come.
somehistory says
She ;’apologized’ when it was made public. But like the mozlum terrorist who entered the U.S. some years ago and was asked about loyalty, swore ‘yes,’ then said later when found out regarding his disloyalty, “I sweared it, but I didn’t mean it.” she probably didn’t really mean she was ‘sorry.’
gravenimage says
Thanks for that additional information, Somehistory.
somehistory says
You are welcome, g.
Raymond Bullock says
The Koran is full of contradictions. Even Asiah saw through it and asked Mohammed if he and Allah were the same person because everything he wanted Allah to do Allah agreed to do it promplty at Mohammed’s every wish.
PRCS says
@Raymond Bullock,
You nailed it.
See my Sep 11, 2024 at 8:27 pm for more info.
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No rational person, particularly those who have access to a computer and the Internet can possibly not realize Muhammad (or some other 7th century Arab author(s) and Allah are one and the same.
Allah is but a sock puppet.
Why ever would an all knowing sky guy mandate ‘the veil’ for Arab Muslim women but not, say, Yap–where women were topless then and remain so (at least for tourists) to this day, or Samoan women, or those in Japan, or Guam, or Hawaii, or the indigenous popularion of North America?
The answer is obvious to anyone with a working brain: whoever wrote Qur’an, hadith, sira, etc., did not know those places existed.
Burnaby Lad says
allah curses go:
Goofy says
This was very useful information.
It gives a strong feeling that Islam is simply a blasphemous rendering of something which has the flavour of scripture. Blasphemous not least because the nature of Allah is completely opposed to that of God of the Jews and the Christians.
It would be wise to prepare court cases against Islam for blasphemy and encouragement of serious crimes before we have new blasphemy laws passed which will immediately be used to close down Judaism and Christianity as hatespeech!
In the realm of logics we need an explanation from this imam of how the killing of prophets can be compared with the claim of killing Isa but not killing him after all, according to the unsubstantiated Islamic claim?
PRCS says
Here’s an article explanaing how/why the Jewish tale of Cain and Abel is in Qur’an:
Answering Islam
Cain and Abel in the Qur’an
Muhammad as the distorter of both the Torah and the Talmud
https://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/cain_abel.html
Keep the term ‘plagiarism’ in mind as you read it.
abu taleb says
Funny, Allah has tricked the Jews to think that they have killed Jesus by transforming somebody to be Jesus look alike and let the Jews crucified him instead of Jesus. So, how come now the Jews is accused of making a false claim that they have killed Jesus?
If muslims think the Jews are lying in this case, then Allah failed to trick the Jews. If the Jews really think they have killed the Jews, then why this guy is upset about it?
Muslims always lie and slander, whether they realize it or not. They are so brainwashed so they just can not make conclusion based on logic and common sense.
gravenimage says
Good points, abu taleb.
Duane says
The qu’rans description of allah is the exact same description of the Old Testament’s lucifer. All muslims are ordered to commit jihad by orders of the qu’ran. The key word is, taqiyya: To lie for the spread of the islamic nation. When jihad finally gets stupid enough to jump off their jihad here the second amendment immediately comes into play and sense we know where a vast majority of islamic nation members live work play, it won’t be good. But in one day all veterans step up with their DDF-214s and the rank showing is their rank in the American 2nd Amendment Militia. Well organized, Now they go home and gather their family and friends now the minuteman/ladies are in the numbers of 90-120 million. We even know the locations of 22 of their 22+ jihad training camps nationwide. Those the national gaurd and reserve units can take care of. We The People can just round them up and place them on planes and send them back to the islamic nation’s county/states of origin. Yes, it’s that simple.
Dan says
Islam denies the divinity of Christ… Why are they using that against the Jews as a hammer? Nonsense.
Given the violence that has been instituted for the last 1100 years, instigated by Islam’s prophet, I would say that Allah has cursed Mohammed and his followers…
PRCS says
“We The People can just round them up and place them on planes and send them back to the islamic nation’s county/states of origin. Yes, it’s that simple.”
That just ain’t gonna happen.
Game plan B, please.
No Taqiyya says
and Allah said, Indeed, I am with you. If you establish prayer and give alms, and believe in my messengers and support them, and lend a good loan to Allah, surely I will forgive your sins, and surely I will bring you into gardens under which rivers flow.
So Allah is asking for a loan? The mighty one is short of money? “He can do things that he cannot technically do” Saker Naik
The al-Rahman is all powerful, but he’s just not very good with money.
So he needs a loan!?
Well well, isn’t that wonderful? 😊
somehistory says
Even play monopoly money is too good for the false god of islam. Let him do without.
No Taqiyya says
A wisecrack once said, “Allah is the owner and operator of an adult shoppe in Jennah.” 😆
WPM says
It is nice to know the PCR is trolling on multi-ID names on this website I address your “troll” Name not your regular name ,and by the way I never defended anyone calling you a rapist .If you are going to play games to see reactions under many different ID s I am sorry I struck a nerve with you I think people can explain their “opinions ” on this sight ,I am not trying to “convert” you or anyone else if I use logic in my explanation if you play “make believe” I am a jihadist saying my “Christian” religion does not matter and I should shut up I might raise to the “bait of the a troll” and say something in the defense of my religion .May fun on your trip of trolling satisfy your wonder of life on this earth and you live a long happy full life , but at least expect an answer if you insult my religion do it in your “assign ” name on this website nest time.
somehistory says
The palestinian red guy lied to you. I never accused him of being a rapist.
I merely wrote that he had said as much some years ago on a thread which seems to have been removed. (Some get removed now and again) I also wrote that he may have thought it was a ‘joke’ to write such as that.
He denies writing it..
And if it was so “stupid” of me to put the words to his letters, why does he keep doing it? It doesn’t bother me in the least. It just lets me know he’s mocking again. And I’m fine with being mocked.
his ‘religion is atheism. He has no problem making it, and his claimed military service ‘relevant’ here. He just hates that I write anything. He doesn’t just get his knickers in a wad about Christ, but about anything I write.
Just to let you know where he’s coming from and it isn’t Truth.
Palestinian Red Crescent Society says
You merely wrote that I had said I want to rape children.
Well, yee haw. That makes it O.K., eh?
“a thread which seems to have been removed. (Some get removed now and again).”
Yeh, sure. Because it didn’t happen.
Like O.J., you’re probably still looking for it.
“why does he keep doing it”
Yup, it was over the top stupid to have done that. And I’m going to keep using it because, yes, it mocks you.
“It doesn’t bother me in the least”
Sure it does.
his ‘religion is atheism
More stupidity from a very stupid person.
PRCS says
WPM says
Sep 12, 2024 at 4:16 am
To PalestinianRedCrescentSociety
.I know according to your faith
You didn’t. You chimed into my response to somehistory, assuming, it seems, that I’m a Muslim.
If your opinion of our religion (Christianity)is irrelevant to the rest of the world
https://search.brave.com/search?
The stats:
q=world+%2B+christianity+percentage&source=web&summary=1&summary_og=eb5cb5de08db1fe1215582
Buddhists, Jains, Hindus, Sikhs, and others have their own religious beliefs.
“and by the way I never defended anyone calling you a rapist”
I didn’t say you did.
“but at least expect an answer if you insult my religion do it in your “assign ” name on this website nest time”
You can respond to either of my handles.
“I am not trying to “convert” you”f
That’s certainly not the way I took it.
I have already made clear I use that Palestinian Red Crescent Society–to somehistory alone.
But, somehistory is correct: she only accused me of saying I want to rape children.
And to this day, she still stupidly asserts that I’m a Palestinian.
Enjoy your day.
WPM says
Thanks
You address it to me about how I was supporting someone else I was address what you said about Christianity directly .I did not say that Christianity was the largest religion of the world or that everyone should be Christian ,or anyone should be forced to convert .If I use a “handle” like IAMANAZI stating my ” opinion” I might get some reactions that seem wild and angry from some people ? I might be consider a white supremist just on the label regardless of what I said . .So have fun trollling . If someone bring up their faith in a non-offense way that goes against jihad ,does not promote violence ,or forced conversion sets off alarms bells of self rightist hurt feeling because you chose to not believe in any God ,that is your business not everyone goes threw like trying to “convert” people to atheism .What your “military service” has to do with this ,or what you did for a living , has to do with your “handle ” “” is just a troll name to get reactions . If I could call myself JIHADIST 1 and get reaction on this website if I came on knocking Christianity ,or Jews ,or Buddhist ,or even atheist like yourself I should deflect to someone or some incident or post that you assume everyone here knows about .?
enjoy your day
PRCS says
WPM,
WPM says
Sep 12, 2024 at 4:16 am
To PalestinianRedCrescentSociety
“I know according to your faith”
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You ASSUMED I was a Muslim.
Start there.