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July 4, 2026 is not just the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence; it is also the two-hundredth anniversary of the deaths of two of the foremost and most formidable of the Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. It is one of the many strange and striking details of history that two of these warriors for freedom, the best of friends at times and the worst of enemies at other times would have died on the same day, and not just any day, but on the fiftieth anniversary of the founding of the nation they did so much to bring into being.
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somehistory says
Today, they would be insulted and called ‘phobic’….Today, they would be the subjects of impeachment.
The Truth they spoke, is not acceptable to the mobs of lies.
I’ve always thought it remarkable that they died on the very same day.
And Adams left a very wise son who would also be hated today.
Wellington says
I don’t mean to be difficult here, somehistory, but both Jefferson and Adams, while believing in a higher power which they approached philosophically as did ancient Greeks like Aristotle, denied the divinity of Jesus, all miracles and prophecies in the Bible, (and why Jefferson composed his “Jefferson Bible”), the Trinity (and which Jefferson referred to contemptuously as “trinitarianism”), the Virgin birth of Jesus and so much else which is standard Christian doctrine. Jefferson particularly deplored Saint Paul whom he called “the great corruptor” of Jesus’ doctrines (in a letter to William Short, August 4th, 1820). Jefferson and Adams both greatly admired Jesus for his ethical teachings but were of the decided conviction that Jesus had been made into something he never intended by a host of lesser people who were steeped in superstition. .
Jefferson was extremely critical of placing faith about reason and in many of his private letters said so explicitly. Adams was in agreement with Jefferson here (though political enemies early on they became quite good friends in their retirement as evinced by the many letters they exchanged post 1809).
No Founding Father was an atheist, as sometimes falsely claimed by people who should have known better (e.g., the late Christopher Hitchins) but many (though certainly not all) were not conventional Christians—to put it mildly. Jefferson and Adams are two examples here of those among the Founding Fathers who admired Jesus’ ethical teachings but who rejected so much else.
Thought you would like to know this and I would add that I am constructed in such a way, as Jefferson and Adams were, that I will always place reason above faith. Just made this way. Hope you and yours are doing well.
somehistory says
Thank you very much, Wellington, for the information. When I wrote my comment above, I was not thinking of *faith* as I have, nor what is *written.*
There are many Truths. And today, many lies.
I was solely thinking of what they would say about the government installing enemies within, allowing rioters to do all manner of damage and go free, and especially the take over by adherents of islime.
I recall the Scripture which is a reminder, “Do not put your trust in nobles nor the son of earthling man.”
So I can recognize what those ancient men said and did to make a better place for people to live and be free, without being in agreement on spiritual things
I really appreciate the insight you provide. Thank you for hoping we are well. Not too bad, although with the many in the hood setting off their fireworks until nearly 3, not much good sleep.
Hope you and your loved ones are well, also.
James Lincoln says
somehistory and Wellington:
Two highly intelligent people having a very thoughtful discussion.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Yes indeed!