The Gaza Board of Peace includes Hamas State Sponsors.
As the great Robert Spencer summed up the original announcement of a ‘ceasefire’ by quoting Jeremiah, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace.”
Three months later there’s still no peace, but in the typical fashion of the ‘peace process’ involving terrorists, the process is moving anyway with the announcement of various boards including a Board of Peace potentially set to include Turkey’s Islamist dictator Erdogan and Qatar, both state sponsors of Hamas, despite protests from the Israeli government.
There’s an ‘executive board’ featuring Steven Witkoff, Jared Kushner, former UK PM Tony Blair, and World Bank President Ajay Banga among others. There’s a ‘technocratic’ committee that’s just the PLO in a suit and a Gaza Executive Board that includes Turkey’s Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan who praised the leader of Hamas, a Qatari diplomat, and Sigrid Kaag, a former Dutch UN official married to a former PLO ambassador to Switzerland opposed to the Israeli government.
The entire thing is a farce because the areas that the new Gaza Board is supposed to control is currently controlled by Hamas,
And Hamas is not going to cede power to anyone except itself. So the only way that this plays out is that, in the most likely scenario, the new ‘administration’ is (much like UNRWA) going to be a new face worn by Hamas. Since the system includes Hamas state sponsors like Turkey and Qatar, that is going to be the state of play. China and Russia had been hosting Hamas-PLO negotiations and the PLO ‘technocrats’ are going to put a show of running things with Hamas actually running things.
Hamas has obviously not disarmed and it’s been pretty clear that it won’t disarm unless it’s to an army it controls. That means Qatar has to pull this bait and switch the way that it did in Afghanistan. And we’ve apparently learned nothing from it.
Meanwhile Witkoff and his useful idiots are throwing out more empty blather and acting like they accomplished something beyond acting as cutouts for Hamas and the allies of Hamas.
If you have any doubt about this being the same exact peace process farce that we got under Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc, you can hear it from Witkoff directly.
Speaking with journalists, Witkoff addressed Israel Hayom questions regarding Gaza’s future. Asked whether Gaza’s reconstruction was contingent on Hamas’ disarmament, he replied: “I think they will disarm. The president was not afraid to allow Jared and me to meet Hamas. We met them, and that was the key to the deal.”
According to Witkoff, a meeting held in Sharm el-Sheikh with Hamas marked a turning point. “That meeting was, in my view, the key to the deal because it showed that we adopted direct negotiations. It was the breakthrough in the 20-point peace plan, and we may need to meet them again. We are not threatened by meeting them. Communication is the most important thing.”
Asked by Israel Hayom about leverage over Hamas, Witkoff argued that the group could be persuaded that disarmament was in its own interest. “I think we can show Hamas that disarmament is the right thing for long-term peace and for the future. And the Gaza reconstruction plan, under President Trump’s oversight, is an unbelievable plan. Gaza is meant to become an amazing place.”
Hamas is going to disarm. Maybe. And Witkoff will meet with Hamas as many times as it takes to convince Hamas that Gaza will be an awesome place.
These are the kinds of quotes coming out of this effort.
“We’ve talked to a number of Hamas people, and we’re hearing throughout the Arab world that people don’t want to be at war anymore. They want peace. They want a better economic future for their families. They want credible homes,” said a second US official on the briefing. “They want what everybody else in this world wants — just a good life, and a good life doesn’t occur through military means.”
A senior US official told Axios, “This is our show, not his show,” referring to Netanyahu. The official added, “We managed to do things in Gaza in recent months nobody thought was possible, and we are going to continue moving.”
The official said stressed, “If he wants us to deal with Gaza, it will have to be our way. We worked over him. Let him focus on Iran and let us deal with Gaza. We are not going to argue with him. He will do his politics and we will keep moving forward with our plan. He can’t really go against us.”
In his opinion, the US is “doing him a favor.”
“If this fails he can say, ‘I told you so.’ We know that if it succeeds he will claim credit,” the official added to Axios. “Nobody in Israel believed we will get this far – but we managed to do it.”
Do what? Name people to imaginary positions ruling over a territory run by terrorists while acting like they can turn it around by sinking more money into it and remaining convinced that the terrorists will come around?
If Team Witkoff thinks that’s incredible, wait till they discover what the geniuses before them managed in Afghanistan. At a mere cost of a trillion or two and a whole lot of American lives.
I’ve been saying this from Day 1, we need to get out and stay out before we duplicate the disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan because the only thing that’s been proven so far is that nothing has been learned from anything since 9/11.
jerry glenn says
Where on earth did these fugitives from the Bush administration come from? For the first time I am disappointed ( extremely disappointed) in President Trump.
Rarely says
Trump is a megalomaniac and has complete control over US policy and diplomats.
It’s all his show and always has been. To show he is in control he even betrays his friends and throws his allies under the bus.
He doubles down on Greenland (to be renamed Trumpland) simply because he didn’t get a Nobel? Get real and grow up.
Wellington says
Well, Rarely, I can always count on you to provide a sophisticated and balanced assessment, replete with wisdom and insight.
Rarely says
Thank you.
Keys says
LOL
MJ Raichyk, PhD says
Exactly… well Senate Investigation of 9-11 is coming soon … and I heard it was Blair that made Bush so confident in WMD and clearly BBC knew Bldg7 was coming down as well, long before it did….
On top of the clear knowledge and complicity in ORCHESTRATION and coverup involve U.S. elites, that will be compounded in that new BREITBART author’s book JUST RELEASED… Invisible Coup…
Showing the boldface planning by glorious national leaders in the take over/down of the U.S of A. by the strangling weight of the migrants invasion…
Maybe Trump can shakeoff the Fool Witcoff when the Muslim goal is clear in their faces
https://www.facebook.com/100088945202152/posts/in-his-new-book-the-invisible-coup-how-american-elites-and-foreign-powers-use-im/886804770961022/
TTYL
gravenimage says
Is this another claim that Islam is fine, but the filthy Infidels did Jihad terror attack 9/11 to make Muslims look bad? Sure sounds like it…
Tony says
Incompetent Trump and our Western Leaders fail to understand the terrorism, violence, and discrimination inherently taught and promoted in Islam and its Muslims against all Non-Muslims as taught in Islam’s Qur’an(Qur’an 9:5, 29, 111; 49:15, etc.). As a result, Trump’s agreements are not America First or the West First in the short term or in the long term.
SUPREMACIST ISLAM IS ANTICHRIST, AHISTORICAL, DECEITFUL, MILITARISTIC, AND POLITICAL against the USA Constitution and Western Laws to conquer and to subjugate Non-Muslims using MUSLIM-TERRORIST-CRIMINAL-GANG ENTERPRISES with ISLAMIC LAW(SHARIA) and with CONTINUOUS, TERROR PROPAGANDA from Islam’s Qur’an as evidenced by the continuous Muslim attacks to make Islam supreme(Qur’an 2:191; 3:28, 54; 4:89-91; 7:99; 8:30, 60; 9:5, 29,111; 16:106, etc.). Islam and its Muslims, enemies of Non-Muslims, are a Muslim Terrorist Organization(MTO) as taught in Islam’s Qur’an.
Deceitful Allah affirms Non-Muslims as enemies of Allah while Muslims continuously undermine a society from within using their man-made Qur’an with lies, obfuscation, and deceit(Qur’an 2:225; 3:54; 7:99; 8:30; 60:4, etc.). Allah in Qur’an 4:101 says, “…Surely the infidels[Non-Muslims] were your clear enemies.” Allah expects all Muslim believers to war against all non-Muslims until the Unbelievers convert to Islam or face Muslim violence. Corrupt Allah in Qur’an 8:39 says, “And engage in war with them[Non-Muslims] until there will not be sedition and the religion will be completely to Allah…” As a result, Non-Muslims are marked for death by Islam and its Muslims.
Murderous Islam is a civilization-destroying, delusional, indoctrinating, cancerous fraud because there is NO MECCA, NO MUHAMMAD, and NO Qur’an in the 7th century AD in Saudi Arabia despite the Muslim Standard Islamic Narrative claims; the Deceitful House of Islam is founded on propaganda, lies, intimidation, and deceit where Islam’s 1400-year traditions are based on fallacy and myth including a more than 300-year gap with no documented history. Hence, NEVER give money to Islamic Countries, Islamic Organizations, Mosques, Islamic Schools, etc. because your are funding your ultimate destruction. Islam must be banned as illegal, and we have the legal right to defend ourselves from Muslim violence.
Islam’s Muslims are to be Seditionist Terrorists for Allah with their MONEY and their LIVES. Allah in Qur’an 49:15 teaches, “Surely the believers[Muslims] are only those who believed in Allah and his messenger. They do not doubt, and they performed jihad with their MONEY and their LIVES for the sake of Allah. Those are the truthful.” Again, Islam is a FACTITIOUS IDEOLOGY and CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION despicably fabricated over time into the 21sth century, and there is NO PEACE only genocidal obliteration with Islam and its deceitful Muslims(Qur’an 7:18; 8:39: 9:5, 29, 111; 11:119; 32:13; 47:4, etc.).
Demonic ALLAH claims MUSLIMS are a greater TERROR than serpentine Allah in Islam’s Qur’an. Allah in Qur’an 59:13 says, “You[Muslims] are a greater terror in their chests than Allah. This is because they[Jews & Christians] are people who do not understand.” Allah in Qur’an 9:29 commands, “Engage in war with those who do not believe in Allah nor in the last day. Nor forbid what Allah and his messenger forbid, nor believe in the religion of the truth among those who have given the book until they pay the jizyah out of hand and they are subdued.”
Islam, its Mosques, its Schools, its Sharia Courts, its Organizations, etc. are Terrorist-Criminal Enterprises of hatred and enmity against all Non-Muslims as totalitarian Islam, the House of Satan, islamizes the society with impunity(Qur’an 2:225; 5:14, 64; 60:4; 9:5, 29, 111, etc.). As taught from Islam’s Qur’an, Islam should be banned for its incitement, funding, and promotion of hybrid warfare, violence, terrorism, criminality, hatred, human trafficking, and discrimination against women, children, and Non-Muslims.
Allah describes Muslim women in Jenna, Allah’s Paradise, as whores of Allah in Qur’an 56:37. Also, Allah stirs hatred against Christians until the resurrection day as Qur’an 5:14 instructs, “And some of those who say, ‘Surely we are Nasara (Christians),’ we took their covenant. So they have forgotten a part of what they were reminded of, so we have stirred up ENMITY and HATRED among them until the resurrection day. And Allah will inform them of what they were doing.” See also Qur’an 2:225; 60:4; 8:55.
Frank Anderson says
“Deliberate ignorance constitutes knowledge of the truth.” Wyle v. R.J. Reynolds, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. From every observation I have seen of Witkoff, he knows NOTHING about Islam. He deliberately IGNORES Hamas charter and murderous atrocities that extend its entire existence. Witkoff is as totally delusional as Neville Chamberlain was in dealing with Hitler. Hamas is simply standard, Orthodox Islam in practice. Pretending otherwise will never make it true.
carpediadem says
Why would he know anything? He’s in real estate for Christ’s sake!
Why would Trump decide a pal of his is in a good position to do anything in this entire situation??
Frank Anderson says
I cannot comprehend how such a brilliant and successful person as DJT has NOT ONE person close to him who knows about Islam who is not a Muslim liar. I am nothing special. It took me 7 years to see Glenn Beck and Robert Spencer to catch the “Religion of Peace” lie that GWB spread right after 9/11. The absolute fantasy that Hamas can reform, moderate and co-exist is absurd and contrary to its charter and 1400 years of Islamic teaching and practice. The similarity of the present delusion with that of Neville Chamberlain and Hitler is stunning.
The first rule of successful negotiation is to identify a trustworthy counterpart. The second rule is to KNOW what motivates the counterpart. FAILURE is certain upon failure of these steps.
gravenimage says
Donald Trump is *very* good at some things. Understanding the threat of Islam is sadly not one of them.
Frank Anderson says
Honored GI, there is no “threat” in Islam. There is an active promise and commitment performed daily for 1400 years to kill conquer and enslave the world to the tune of between 250 and 1000 million dead people to their count.
gravenimage says
True, Frank. I guess I do tend to consider a negative promise to kill, conquer, and enslave to indeed be a threat, though.
Frank Anderson says
The important difference is that a threat is something that MAY happen in the future. Islam is killing now.
gravenimage says
I suppose that threats can also be quite immediate, Frank–not just a distant possibility. I think the main difference we have here is semantics. We both agree about the danger to us–both immediate and for the future–of Islam.
Cynthia says
They want jobs and homes – what everyone wants. What a crock and so naive!
This is Israel’s fight to protect its people. This is another wash, rinse , repeat with jihad. I can only imagine the Damocles sword threats of aid withheld if the Netanyahu government doesn’t comply.
Keys says
“This is Israel’s fight to protect its people.” Yep, the existential core of how most ‘men of peace and goodwill’ would see this.
Here’s how Hamas and most muslims see it: “This is the Palestinian Muslim’s righteous fight to eradicate Israel from the face of the earth.” That would include muslims on the committee Witkoff is so proud of appointing.
Keys says
When one considers what the Koran and Mohammad say about the Jews, what the consistent history of Islam is, and what current Muslim leaders and mobs say about the Jews, one can, with certainty, conclude that Witkoff is on a fool’s errand.
But for Christians Jesus said, “Blessed are the peacemakers”, and “Love your enemies”, and to “forgive seventy times seven” (we are way past 490, but that was not Jesus’ point).
So, does Jesus expect Christians to be fools? Is Witkoff/Trump doing the Christian thing, at least for attempting, despite its futility, to be a peacemaker? And in attempting to bring peace, is he more than likely making things worse for Israel and the World on this fool’s errand?
I do not think Jesus expected His followers to be fools; just the opposite! However, He did say His followers would suffer in this world.
somehistory says
Jesus also called those who wanted to murder him, ‘serpents, offspring of vipers, dirty cups, whitewashed graves,” and the children of satan the devil. He also told them they were headed for Gehenna.
He also said if people didn’t want to hear His message of life and peace, the disciple should ‘ clean the dust of his feet’ and leave the place.
Regarding the ‘up to 77 times. of forgiveness; Peter asked about ‘forgiving his brother’ and other Scripture indicates that forgiveness is not required if the one offending is not sorry for what he did.
If someone….even a muzzie….wants to murder us, we can call that one a snake. and a child of the devil
And if that one tries to murder us….and is not sorry for the effort….we are not required to forgive.
Keys says
Thank you, somehistory.
somehistory says
Thank you, Keys.
gravenimage says
Great exchange.
Wellington says
This is the “Moms and Pops in the Middle East just want what the Moms and Pops in Iowa want” kind of thinking, which is to say not much thinking at all.
gravenimage says
Yes–decades of witless stupidity.
somehistory says
There is also the writing of the Psalmist who wrote, “When I say peace, they are for war.”
hamas doesn’t want “peace.” The muzzie ghouls want to fight, to murder, to rape and slaughter until there is not one of their enemy still breathing air.
But the witless koff still spouts nonsense, expecting the public to believe he is a smart guy who knows how to do what others have not. He’s a tool and a fool, or he’s evil to his core. Like islime…evil to its al queda.
James Lincoln says
Steven Witkoff, is a very successful American real estate developer, investor, and founder of the Witkoff Group.
But that does not translate into even just basic fundamental knowledge regarding islam.
He is a disaster.
gravenimage says
Spot on analysis, James.
James Lincoln says
Thank you, gravenimage.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
How exactly is “success” defined here? He’s had to accept money from Qatar to keep his real estate ventures afloat. That would result in a highly compromised person, who has no business working in such a role
gravenimage says
Witkoff: ‘We Can Show Hamas Disarmament Is the Right Thing for Long-Term Peace’
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And Witkoff thinks that Hamas wants long-term peace–or any kind of peace–why, exactly? Everything they have said and points to the exact opposite.
GE says
Totally delusional, isn’t he—
gravenimage says
I’m afraid so…