Muslims in the UK have been falsely “converting to Christianity” so that they can claim to be asylum seekers, arguing that if they were now to be returned to their Muslim countries of origin, they would, as Christians, be persecuted. And Christian clergy have been helping them.
More on the Big Baptism Scam can be found here: “Asylum seekers baptised in migrant hotel bathtubs,” by
Migrants are being baptised in asylum hotel bathtubs by a Christian charity, The Telegraph can reveal.
Asylum seekers have undergone baptisms in taxpayer-funded accommodation despite concerns that Muslim migrants are only going through the process to gain asylum.
Carelinks Ministries, a registered charity linked to the minority Christadelphian sect, has visited hotels across Britain to conduct baptisms in migrants’ bathrooms….
These are the hotels, mainly located in small villages where these Muslim economic migrants, posing as asylum seekers, live large on the benefits that the generous welfare state lavished on them, emerging only to commit crimes — robberies, drug trafficking, sexual assaults — that have enraged the locals, who have been demanding that the government move the migrants elsewhere.
In now-deleted social media posts, Duncan Heaster, one of its volunteers, is seen travelling around the country to baptise asylum seekers at hotels….
When approached by The Telegraph, Mr Heaster confirmed he conducted bathtub baptisms in asylum hotels.
“I do,” he said. “But that’s not the main thrust of what I do. I’m not interested in getting involved in the debate of ‘are these people sincere, are they just doing it to get leave to remain?’ and that sort of thing.”…
No, he doesn’t want to be involved in that debate over the sincerity of these Muslims “converting” to Christianity, because he knows perfectly well that these bathtub baptisms are suspect, the conversions a farce in which he is complicit.
He added: “Neither I nor Carelinks are involved in the applications for asylum. We consider that this is a separate issue for the individuals, and that it is necessary for them to convince the tribunal that their conversion to Christianity is valid.”
He’s too easy on himself. He knows that these sudden “conversions” by Muslims have nothing to do with any real acceptance, or indeed with any knowledge, of Christianity, but consist solely of a quick submersion in a bathtub while a clergyman intones the right words. Of course it’s a farce, and of course Mr. Heaster, the volunteer for Carelinks who has been conducting many of these “baptisms,” knows it.
A spokesman for Carelinks said: “Carelinks takes no part in the process of helping any individual to claim asylum….
What a strange remark. When Carelinks sends out people to baptize a Muslim so that he can present himself as newly converted to Christianity, surely that helps him to claim asylum.
In one case, an Iranian migrant living at a hotel in Stockport, was baptised at the town’s baptist church two days after he knocked on its front door to request it.
Rev Steve Hough, the church’s minister, spoke to the man who introduced himself as “Ali” with the help of Google Translate before deciding there was “no good reason why I shouldn’t baptise him.”
“No good reason” not to baptize “Ali”? What about the strong suspicion that “Ali” knew next to nothing about Christianity, and wanted to be baptized as quickly as possible only in order to support his claim for asylum? Did Rev. Hough not think he should interrogate “Ali” to find out what, if anything, he knew about Christianity before agreeing to baptize him?
A spokesman for the church accepted the speed of the baptism was “unusual” but said the migrant showed “sincerity” and “commitment” to Christianity, adding that “decisions about asylum claims rest entirely with the Home Office and the immigration system, which we trust carefully and stringently investigate all professions of faith.”…
How did this migrant show his “sincerity” in his conversion of Christianity? Did he look deeply sincere? Utter a “cross my heart and hope to die” asseveration of his Christian faith? And is there the slightest reason to believe that the immigration department and the Home Office can be trusted to “carefully and stringently investigate all professions of faith”?
These clergymen who perform these bathtub baptisms are making it easier for the Muslims involved to claim to have converted to Christianity, meaning they must be allowed to stay as asylum seekers; a return to their Muslim countries would endanger them. Skeptical immigration authorities deny that status to a few of these phony converts. But many more succeed, and are given permission to stay in Britain. After a suitable interval, they can safely “revert” to Islam. Thus do some Christian clergy help swell the ranks of Muslim economic migrants in Great Britain, by aiding their masquerade.
What the immigration authorities in the UK should require of all those Muslims claiming to have converted to Christianity and therefore should be eligible for asylum seeker status, is their passing a detailed examination. They should demonstrate a deep knowledge of the life of Jesus, the nature of his teachings, and familiarity with Church doctrines. Even then, there will be “converts” able to swot up all that information and regurgitate it, but for most Muslims claiming to have embraced Christianity, such an examination will be a great, and possibly insurmountable, hurdle.
rick says
Tell them to spit on the koran and walk on it with their shoes on. And recite that “Jesus is the true lord and G-d and allah is a hoax”.
somehistory says
They won’t do it, but if some did, it still wouldn’t prove what they claim as they are allowed to do anything if it furthers islime.
James Lincoln says
rick,
And, preferably, live streamed for the “benefit” of the entire muslim world.
Sam Topeka says
“ They (converts) should demonstrate a deep knowledge of the life of Jesus, the nature of his teachings, and familiarity with Church doctrines.” Apostate Prophet went through a two year period of study before being baptized into the Orthodox Church. How valid are these “bathtub baptisms” anyway?
England Invaded says
Been going on and known about for years.
somehistory says
I recall some years ago, reading an account of a clergyman who reported the scam. Evidently, that report went nowhere.
somehistory says
Really converting would put them in danger from other muzzies….and make the new convert subject to persecution from muzzies.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Memo to Christian priests anywhere: you’re doing your group no favors by admitting fake converts into your religion. Maybe take a page out from Judaism, and make conversion something that a potential convert wants to do, as opposed to enticing him/her to convert. That way, no fakes, and if someone tries to pull a scam like this one, they’d be found out easily
somehistory says
There are some Christian groups which insist on a time of study with any potential convert….it’s not just come in and get baptized.
Other denominations are less likely to make sure the new person has an understanding of what it means to be Christian.
If common sense and a knowledge of what islime is all about was more prevalent, fewer muzzies would succeed at this deception.
Sam Topeka says
Actually, Catholic and Orthodox converts require about two years of study and discernment before baptism. Same goes for much of Anglican world, though I don’t know about the New Improved Church of England.
Wellington says
I take it it is another example of “war is deceit,” “compliments” of Mo once again.
Ah, the malevolent and deceptive twists and turns by Mohammedans. You’d think more people in the West by now, especially those in charge, would be wise to this rot, but they aren’t (or they are and which is even worse).
What a stupid time in Western history we live in. None stupider Some as tragic but none stupider
Tim gallagher says
I thought that banning Islam from all non Muslim countries is the best solution to Islam’s evil nature. This lying crap where Muslims pretend to leave Islam is a problem. Those wise Hungarians would probably not believe a word Muslims say and would shut the lying scum out.
somehistory says
“PM pledges extra £10m to protect British Muslims”
“Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has pledged an additional £10m in security funding to protect Muslim communities from hate crimes and attacks.
It follows his visit to a Peacehaven mosque that was targeted in a suspected arson attack earlier this month.
During Sir Keir’s visit on Thursday, he said the funding would provide Muslim communities with protection, “allowing them to live in peace and safety”.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/pm-pledges-extra-10m-to-protect-british-muslims/ar-AA1P2W4V?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68fc223d8c44469094d0de7db52bcf4c&ei=51
gravenimage says
Muslims in Britain are already a protected species–including Jihad terrorists and child rapists…
Hayden says
And they should be required to curse Mohammed and his family and companions, spit and trample on the Koran, and the whole thing should be recorded and posted publicly, to guarantee their sincerity!
Stephen says
Most churches are happy to look after immigrants. I know one in warrington where Iranians who are pretending to be Christians give the dawa script to ignorant christians.
I have told my friend they are giving dawa. Just as we used to give apologetics arguements of those who taught us to atheists and skeptics. Sadly my friend is too woke now to hear me.
Most churches i have been in would never baptise someone off the street. Without a long process of catechesis or teaching.
Anyone going up for baptism should have to renounce all previous allegiances. Muslims should have to deny muhammad was a prophet and should have to explain why they no longer believe these things.
I think it would be wrong to ask them to violate the quran but they should have to prove their sincerity in some way.
gravenimage says
Fake Christian Muslims still preaching Da’wa–and no one notices? Deeply chilling.
OLD GUY says
Not surprised, Islam will do anything to spread its political propaganda and muslim men around the world.
Huh?!? says
Hello again. The UK keeps proving themselves to be stuck on stupid. Without lies Islam dies. If they are willing to turn against Allah this fast, they will turn against the God of Moses just as quickly when Islam has full control.
Yogi says
They should be deported right away !! Later after the application , they will convert to Islam again, quarantine…
gravenimage says
The Big Baptism Scam: Muslims in UK ‘Converting to Christianity’ to Become Asylum Seekers
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I wish they were just economic migrants–but many of them are Jihad terrorists.
Kepha says
I pray that this might actually take hold. There are false believers all over the map, not just ex-Muslims. I belong to a church that actually intructs in doctrine before granting membership–and that would include candidates for baptism.