The madness continues: Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has been reported to the ICC for “complicity in genocide.” More on this farce can be found here: “Italy’s Meloni says she has been denounced to ICC for complicity in genocide,” Reuters, October
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said on Tuesday that she and two of her ministers had been reported to the International Criminal Court for alleged complicity in genocide in connection with Israel’s offensive in Gaza.
Speaking in an interview with state television broadcaster RAI, Meloni said Defence Minister Guido Crosetto and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani had been denounced, and “I think” also Roberto Cingolani, the head of defense group Leonardo.
“I don’t believe there is another case like this in the world or in history,” Meloni said.
She did not elaborate on who had brought the case against her and her ministers.
Italy has seen a string of demonstrations over the last week, bringing hundreds of thousands of people onto the streets to protest against the mass killings in Gaza, with many protesters also taking aim at Meloni.
Her right-wing government, generally a staunch supporter of Israel, has distanced itself recently from what it calls its “disproportionate” offensive in Gaza, but has not severed any commercial or diplomatic links, or recognized the state of Palestine.
Meloni said she was “amazed” by the accusation of complicity in genocide because “anyone who knows the situation is aware that Italy has not authorized new, let’s say, arms supplies to Israel after October 7.”
That remark, unfortunately, seems to be suggesting that Italy is not “complicit in genocide” because it has not authorized new arms shipments to Israel since the start of the Gaza war. That is an implicit suggestion that there may have been “genocide” in Gaza, but Italy can’t be blamed. What Meloni should have said is this:
Someone has accused me, and two of my ministers, with “complicity in genocide” in Gaza. This is absurd. I need only make two points:
First, there has been no “genocide” in Gaza. Of the 67,000 deaths Hamas has claimed occurred in the Strip, 26,000 were — according to the IDF — members of Hamas. Pre-war data shows that the average monthly death toll in Gaza from accidents and diseases, was 800. Over the 24 months of the war, 19,200 deaths are attributable to accidents and diseases, based on the prewar data — that is, deaths that would have occurred without a war in Gaza. That means a total of 21,800 civilians, out of a total population in Gaza of 2.2 million, have died as a result of the war, or less than 1% of that population. No one could call that a genocide.
Second, there is a more important point that I wish to make. “Genocide” requires intent. There has been no intent by the IDF to commit “genocide.” Far from it. The IDF has made a tremendous effort, by dropping millions of leaflets, sending millions of text messages, and making millions of robocalls, to warn civilians away from areas and buildings about to be targeted. No wonder that an American professor of urban warfare at West Point, John Spencer, who has studied the Gaza war since its deception, has concluded that “Israel has done more and implemented more measures to prevent civilian harm than any military in the history of urban warfare.”
One hopes that in what the Italians call “un secondo momento,” Meloni will dilate upon that absurd charge made by persons unknown to the ICC, accusing her of being “complicit in a genocide,” and will explain, using the words I’ve put in her mouth here, why what the IDF is doing in Gaza cannot conceivably be called a “genocide.”
Karen Dowden says
How stupid!!! This world is in a total mess. People have lost their minds and have no critical thinking skills,
Semi Dave says
To start with, Israel is not committing genocide. Hamas and surrounding muslim nations are committing democide against the people of Gaza by forcing them to remain in place as Israel roots out Hamas.
Hamas also keeps Gazans in place as shields by stealing the food that enters Gaza (millions of tons) and selling it at exorbitant prices to struggling Gazans or letting it outright rot while denying Gazans access.
It is high time the media stopped reporting lies to westerners who are otherwise ignorant of all that is happening in the middle east.
OLD GUY says
Amen
gravenimage says
+1
Patrick says
Italy bends over for Islam, where support for Israel, is support for GAZA genocide. All countries invaded by Muslims, succumb to their aggressive, incessant Muslim pro-Hamas influence.
Let Muslims exhibit aggressive rapes, murders of Christians and Jews, aggressive construction of mosques throughout Italy, to demonstrate our Islamic will power, to control the minds of Italy.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
In the above article, what Italy has said is mild, given that it hasn’t
⮞ Recognized the state of Palestine
⮞ They have not downgraded any commercial nor diplomatic links
I think that attacking Italy in this case is a tad unfair, compared to others in the neighborhood like Britain, France, Spain, Ireland, Norway….
gravenimage says
Spot on, Infidel. Italy is being excoriated for *not* turning on Israel.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Is Italy a signatory to this court?
gravenimage says
Sadly so.
Westman says
There is no World Government though elites have worked to create it to give legitimacy to their power, now partially hidden in the shadows. Watching the top leaders of the EU offers a sense of what such governance would be.
The Nuremberg Trials gave a blueprint for the ICC but it is essentially toothless without consensus about particular “criminal” matters by members with the reach, money, and influence necessary to accomplish the arrests and prosecutions. In effect, it is a political weapon and, “Tar-ball shame cannon”, aspiring to be the court authority of a non-existant World Government.
The ICC assumption that it could arrest Russia’s Putin or Israel’s Netanyahu is an indication of how much hubris and delusion the ICC represents. There is no clear indication of who might be running the next “Nuremberg” trials – it could be the US, Russia, or nobody. The world might be a smoking mess.
PM Meloni and Italy should laugh, iand move on. Effectively, the EU states are vassals of the US.
Rufolino says
Hope they are vassals of the USA because their current government appears to be the last bastion against the disastrous triumph of Leftism most everywhere else.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Sorry, there is no evidence that EU countries are vassals of the US. It’s just that generally, they don’t dare oppose the US, regardless of whether or not the ruling party in DC is in phase w/ their government. Tony Blair headed a Labour government that was very closely allied w/ President Bush, and David Cameron headed a Tory government that was very closely allied w/ President Obama. Similarly, Kier Starmer won’t dare do a thing against the US, whether it’s Trump or some Dem in the White House
It’s just that generally, GOP governments don’t interfere w/ what EU governments do, but Dem governments are more willing to be more intrusive. But even Dem governments used to generally be more to the right of “conservative” or “christian democrat” parties in Europe, although I’m not sure that that’s still true anymore
Captain Quirk says
The quote Mr. Fitzgerald uses contains the following fragment: ‘(…) John Spencer, who has studied the Gaza war since its deception.’ I presume this should read: ‘inception’.
gravenimage says
+1
alberto gorin says
would she and the world mention
sudan or ukraine and African nations
MICHAEL NEUTZLING says
Rational people like this woman understand that unless Israel robustly defends herself, all the Jews will be floating face down in the Mediterranean. Gaza does not get to determine Israel’s response to its bloody genocide in Israel on October 7 any more than Japan got to limit America’s response to Pearl Harbor, INCLUDING THE NUKING OF HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI!
skeptiker says
Europa ist für die linksverpeilten Schwachköpfe aus Amerika zum Rückzugsort geworden. Hier treffen sie noch auf Gleichgesinnte der Woke-Ideologie und auf finanziell bestens ausgestattete NGO’s.
meloni baloney says
This is the reason that the EU has this court. It’s a quick and easy way to silence all dissent of their globalist policies.
John Jake says
Once again, these half-witted scum at the ICC and their quarter-witted cohorts couldn’t define what “genocide” means if their putrid pathetic existence depended upon it!
Giorgia Meloni MAY HAVE uttered some words -equals- GENOCIDE !! These people are repulsive and dangerous. Meloni should bring an international defamation lawsuit against these attention seeking punks.
gravenimage says
Italian Prime Minister Meloni Reported to ICC for ‘Complicity in Genocide’
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What vicious claptrap. She is just not pro-Hamas terrorism.