Much talk has circulated about Saudi Arabia reforming, but this increasingly appears to be more to wishful thinking from Westerners than a genuine reflection of what is really happening inside the country. Saudi Arabia is, in fact, reportedly becoming more true to its Wahhabi origins, rife with gross human rights abuses and now rewards for jihad terrorists. “Saudi king rewards 1,000 Palestinian terrorists’ relatives with free Mecca pilgrimage,” by Aharon David, Palestinian Media Watch, July 29, 2025:
There has long been speculation about Saudi Arabia normalizing its relations with Israel, as part of US President Donald Trump’s “Abraham Accords.” However, a new reward by the Saudi king to “honor” Palestinian terrorists’ families shows that the Saudi leadership does not reject Palestinian terror, nor those terrorists who murdered Israeli civilians.
PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas himself “thanked Saudi Arabia and its leadership for the generous grant they provided this year to 1,000 Palestinian pilgrims from among the families of the Martyrs, the prisoners, and the wounded” [Official PA TV News, June 9, 2025]. The relatives of “Martyrs, prisoners, and wounded” – meaning dead, imprisoned, and wounded terrorists – were flown to Mecca for the Hajj pilgrimage by Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.
This gesture constitutes a sign of “loyalty” to the terrorists, and a commitment to “constant sponsorship and honoring” vis-a-vis their families, as noted by official PA TV:
Six months before October 7, Saudi Arabia prepared to release more Hamas-linked prisoners following a meeting with a Hamas senior delegation. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ meetings with Saudi Arabia’s King Al Saud and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman also coincided with the Hamas delegation’s visit.
On October 7, Saudi Arabia along with Qatar and Iran were the first to immediately blame Israel for the savage Hamas attack, because of the so-called “occupation.”
According to a Saudi dissident, Yahya Assiri, who is a human rights activist and former member of the Royal Saudi Air Force:
Nobody in the country – nobody at all – is allowed to say anything except if there is permission from the authorities. They are monitoring people very harshly, very closely for every single tweet, for every single word and they [have] sentenced people to years and years behind bars for just single tweets.
The European Centre for Democracy and Human Rights (ECDHR) reported a discrepancy between the international perception of Saudi Arabia and its domestic reality:
While Saudi Arabia invests heavily in initiatives to enhance its global image, such as hosting international events and promoting economic reforms, these efforts stand in stark contrast to the domestic reality of repression. The government’s attempts to rebrand itself internationally cannot obscure the ongoing human rights abuses and the high cost of political dissent within the country.
The ECDHR also stated:
The use of the death penalty in Saudi Arabia has reached unprecedented levels. In 2024, the Kingdom executed 198 individuals, the highest number in 30 years. Many of those executed were convicted of offenses related to political dissent or drug-related charges. This surge in executions has drawn international condemnation, with human rights organizations accusing Saudi Arabia of displaying a chilling disregard for human life.
Human Rights Watch also reports atrocious working conditions for migrant construction workers, leading to gruesome deaths including electrocutions, decapitations and falls from heights; Amnesty International reports the intentional abuse of infidel African domestic workers, pointing to an ingrained societal problem from the top down.
Palestinian Media Watch continues:
Trump and Israel should make it clear to the Saudi king that honoring terrorist murderers of Jews by rewarding their families is terror glorification and sends a message to Palestinians that Saudi Arabia welcomes Palestinian terror. This message is incompatible with a normalization process with Israel.
While many have hope that Saudi Arabia will normalize relations with Israel, one should remember that the Saudis demand a two-state solution, based on the pre-1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital. Whatever charade Saudi Arabia is putting on for the West, it is considered to be an improvement from Iran, but it does not bode well for Israel or Western interests in the long term, or for the suffering dissidents within Saudi Arabia.
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Billy says
Both Sunnis and Shias are allies against Israel, America, and ALL Non-Muslims as taught in Islamic Law and in Islam’s Quran(Quran 9:5, 29, 111, etc.).
Allah’s hateful, totalitarian Islam, a Terrorist-Criminal Enterprise and a Murderous Cult with its Believers, Terrorists for Allah, continually fund, promote, and practice ideological subversion, propaganda, bigotry, discrimination, deceit, mass murder, supremacy, segregation, hatred, incitement to violence, genocide, and terrorism as taught in Islamic Law, Sharia, and in Islam’s Quran(Quran 9:41, 88; 5:35, etc.). Allah in Qur’an 8:39 says, “And engage in war with them[Non-Muslims] until there will not be sedition and the religion will be completely to Allah…” Hence, Muslim actions should be legally challenged with a multi-faceted force of Western Laws like Muslims wield against Americans and Westerners via Tax Exempt Organizations, the Media and Hollywood, Foreign Funding, etc. because Islam violates and is incompatible with Western Laws(Quran 9:5,29, 111; 49:15; 60:4 etc.).
Like a Foreign Terrorist Organization(FTO) designated by the USA Secretary of State, Islam functions as a MUSLIM TERRORIST ORGANIZATION(MTO) fighting against Non-Muslims and NOT A PEACEFUL religion under Western Law because Islam funds, teaches, and promotes Terrorist Criminal Organizations with Muslims as Terrorists for Allah(Quran 9:5,29, 111; 49:15 etc.).
Allah’s demoniacal Islam, a hateful Antichrist Ideology, is using Western Freedoms and Laws against Non-Muslims to conquer Non-Muslims under Islamic Rule. Non-Muslims should legally designate Islam as a Muslim Terrorist Organization(MTO) where Mosques, Muslim Schools, Islamic Centers, Sharia Courts, and Muslim Organizations are banned because of their incitement of segregation and discrimination to fight back against ISLAMIZATION, Muslim subjugation, and tyrannical violence(Quran 4:65; 9:5,29,111; 60:4; 98:6-7 and more).
Sahih Bukhari 3126 says, “… the Prophet said, He who fights so that Allah’s Word(ie. Islam) should be superior, fights for Allah’s Cause.” Allah in Quran 9:111 says, “Surely Allah has purchased from the believers[Muslims] their souls and their money so that they may have the garden[Heavenly Paradise]. They engage in war for the sake of Allah[ie. Allah’s Cause), so they kill and are killed…”.
Under Islam and Islamic Law, Muslims have the Legal Right and the Quranic Duty to terrorize Non-Muslims because neglecting this QURANIC DUTY is a CRIME against tyrannical Allah. Jihad means warfare against Non-Muslims to ESTABLISH ISLAM’S RELIGION AS SUPREME(Quran 3:115, 151; 9:5, 29, 111; Muslim Law Manual: “Reliance of the Traveller”, o9.0 and more).
More specifically, Islam, a terroristic-totalitarian way of life, is a Muslim Terrorist Ideology and Murderous, Criminal Enterprise of: incitement, intolerance, continuous war, discrimination, segregation, slavery, supremacy, genocide, polygamy, propaganda, deceit, hatred, sedition, rape, terrorism, and violence against all Non-Muslims as taught in the Quran(Quran 2:208,216; 4:65, 89,95, 115; 5:14,64; 8:12,39,60, 74; 9:5,21,29,36, 41,49, 73,88, 111,123; 21:92; 49:15; 60:4; 61:9-11; 62:6; 89:14; etc.).
Kosh's Shadow says
Let them go to Mecca – and stay in Saudi Arabia.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Unfortunately, the Saudis don’t want them to settle there
Zeenah says
Well, that’s how it’s done in SODOMY-Arabia!
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I don’t accept point blank that Saudi Arabia has totally changed b’cos… MbS, but I do think there is a dual power structure there. MbS calls the shots on most things – from the security apparatus to other reforms, be it women drivers, theaters & discotheques and other unislamic entertainment in most places, opening up Medina to non-muslims (although not yet Mecca) and so on
However, the policy on “Palestine”/Israel is still in the hands of his father, who is an unreformed Wahabi. President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu have been hoping to add Saudi Arabia to the Abraham Accords. However, that’s not gonna happen while King Salman is alive, and MbS has openly said that out of deference to the king, he won’t be prioritizing that anytime soon. Anybody who wants to see Saudi Arabia recognize Israel should hope for King Salman to croak sooner rather than later
GE says
Remember the part the Saudis played in 911?
The Saudis are NOT are friends.
Neither are the Turks, the Pakistanis, or any other Muslim nation.
Why is that so difficult for people to understand?
JS says
Absolutely correct! This should have been learned long ago. Why are our politicians blind – even Trump. If the world was smart, they would invade those oil rich countries and stop their payout to terrorists, and move on from there. They need birth control because they make throwaway kids for DARWAH…and never worked for anything – they just sit on oil.
They cannot keep bringing millions of children into the world when most can’t feed their first child, but have ten more. Then they expect the international community of the west to feed them for decades which is what they should do – not us.
As for the darwah, google it. They say they’ve never to do this so much since their prophet days…but are doing it now and we’re unaware of it! They set up so much in the western US and we are blind to it. Search it and see what I’m talking about. It will shock you.
Take them down first without the media. Do not announce everything to the world while doing it.
Do you know that in the 4 years Biden was president, I had to check all the agencies to see how he was destroying our nation? And he got away with it and stuck all Americans and Trump with fixing (which seems impossible) his dirty deeds.
So, remember none of them are our friends. It’s impossible for them to be friends with infidels. Read their Quran – I did! They want to turn the US into their powerhouse to take over the rest of the world. Listen to what they say! They’ve become emboldened and no one is listening – not even Trump!
They used October 7th to get into the US and gain sympathy, and it’s working. People have no idea that they’re unlike any religion or people. They are diabolical and very crafty at lying and deceiving, and murder. We must stop them and
JS says
Absolutely correct! This should have been learned long ago. Why are our politicians blind – even Trump. If the world was smart, they would invade those oil rich countries and stop their payout to terrorists, and move on from there. They need birth control because they make throwaway kids for DARWAH…and never worked for anything – they just sit on oil.
They cannot keep bringing millions of children into the world when most can’t feed their first child, but have ten more. Then they expect the international community of the west to feed them for decades which is what they should do – not us.
As for the darwah, google it. They say they’ve never to do this so much since their prophet days…but are doing it now and we’re unaware of it! They set up so much in the western US and we are blind to it. Search it and see what I’m talking about. It will shock you.
Take them down first without the media. Do not announce everything to the world while doing it.
Do you know that in the 4 years Biden was president, I had to check all the agencies to see how he was destroying our nation? And he got away with it and stuck all Americans and Trump with fixing (which seems impossible) his dirty deeds.
So, remember none of them are our friends. It’s impossible for them to be friends with infidels. Read their Quran – I did! They want to turn the US into their powerhouse to take over the rest of the world. Listen to what they say! They’ve become emboldened and no one is listening – not even Trump!
They used October 7th to get into the US and gain sympathy, and it’s working. People have no idea that they’re unlike any religion or people. They are diabolical and very crafty at lying and deceiving, and murder. We must stop them and
abu taleb says
The Saudis (and other Arabs too) have raped and tortured probably millions of Indonesian women. For a certain period, there were probably one million Indonesian female workers in Saudi, and the Indonesian ambassador said that 35% of them had problems in Saudi (he did not say exactly what). But just estimate the rape case per year, multiply by, let say 10 years, it may be millions.
There was an article in a newspaper that there were ten or more abandoned babies in the Jakarta airport per month about 25 years ago.
I testify that I heard at least two cases of tortures and one case of attempted rape.
But the Indonesian muslims not only try to cover up the case, but also give money to Saudi in form of pilgimace cost which may cost them USD 3-5000 per person. And probably there are 500,000 people go to kiss the black rock every year.. The result of brainwashing.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
GE
A part of me is willing to grant that MbS is very different from his previous generation – his father and all his uncles. Before 2015, I too regarded Saudi Arabia a rogue state like Turkey, Pakistan and Qatar. Even now, their role in 9/11 still has to be addressed by their leadership – something that neither Bush nor Obama ever demanded from them
That said, there are a lot of changes that they have done within their country, like their madrassas no longer teaching hatred of infidels, them ending funding of dawa activity overseas and banning groups like Tabhlighi Jamaat, which doubles as a dawa & jihad promoting group. Which is why I believe the timing would send the wrong message: if we were to punish Saudi Arabia for 9/11, the correct time would have been 2002, after the Afghan war was won, and instead of turning to Iraq. If it is done now, Riyadh would likely conclude that its policies in the 90s & 00s was okay w/ the West, but that its current policy of slowly eroding shariah enforcement was a demonstration of the cliche “no good deed goes unpunished”. Which is why that window of opportunity to punish them has come & gone. However, we would be justified in demanding that the Saudis one day address their role in it, and go after everyone in their royal family who backed al Qaeda. Same for countries like Qatar, whose prince was once in a hunting expedition w/ Osama and thereby saved him from getting killed by the CIA even though that was doable
However, the friendship w/ Qatar, Turkey & Pakistan is absolutely inexplicably inane, particularly for this administration
JS says
Israel should not be involved in any “Abraham accords” bullsheet. First off, there isn’t an Islamic Abrahamic anything. It’s a plagiarized lie, with their own murderous element added that people fell for – and still are.
There’s a YouTuber from Saudi Arabia called Holy Humanist. She tells of what she calls “chop shops” that exist in Saudi Arabia. WHY des the world and politicians accept them OR Islam? That’s where it’s all from – yet we ALL IGNORE IT FOR CENTURIES!
F-ck the Saudis, Qataris, and the rest of this religion. They, and more importantly, WE, will never live in peace or security with the e-instance of this religion. And now it’s at our doorstep and in our nation!
Our children and grandchildren will hate us for destroying their whole world! And I don’t blame them.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I do accept that some of the rulers in the region, like MbS and the leading sheikh in the Emirates, are genuine reformers and are willing to normalize relations w/ Israel. While others like Ahmad al-Shara’a are doing it out of duress
However, the populace is another story. Unlike in Iran, where a majority of people at least have no animus towards Israel (I think the jury is still out on how “pro-Israel” the Iranian people within Iran really are), the majority of Arabs are just the opposite. In Saudi Arabia, for instance, the education curriculum was altered only after 2015, so anybody over 10 years in that country was still subjected to the Wahabi education system that regurgitated the islamic hatred of Jews, Christians, Buddhists & Hindus. Which would still be the bulk of their population. It will take a generation or more before the number of Arabs who don’t have a visceral hatred of infidels are in the majority
As for our children & grandchildren, too many of them suffer from the same thing adults suffer from – “I have a muslim friend, therefore there can be nothing wrong w/ muslims, and ergo, islam”
Hulugu says
Excellent all “Palestinians” need to be moved there and total remigration of Muslims to Saudi Arabia