Gavin Ashenden’s damage control backfires as celebrity Catholic convert publishes conflicting messages.
A Catholic podcast, co-hosted by Dr Gavin Ashenden, the ex-Chaplain to Queen Elizabeth II, has triggered fresh controversy after the celebrity convert to Catholicism signed a joint statement endorsing a notorious holocaust denier Catholic priest.
The statement, issued by the three co-hosts of the Catholic Unscripted podcast—Gavin Ashenden, Katherine Bennett, and Mark Lambert—praises the infamous pro-Nazi priest Fr. James Mawdsley as “a great scriptural scholar” whose “books are well worth reading.”
Catholics and Jews excoriated the podcast after Bennett platformed Mawdsley, a priest who is suspended by the traditional Latin Mass society, the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, to discuss the post-Vatican II changes in the Good Friday liturgy.
“I think that the Jews have basically infiltrated the church, destroyed her liturgy, her dogma, her morals, and unless we call that out and overcome that and be honest about the governance in our Catholic faith then things are only going to get worse,” Mawdsley insisted in the podcast.
Catholic Unscripted released the prerecorded podcast on YouTube just before the Jewish Passover and Christian Holy Week. On the Wednesday of Holy Week, Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) flagged up the podcast’s Jew-hatred on X and Facebook.
The antisemitism campaign group reported that “several people from the Catholic community” had written to them “in disgust” regarding the priest’s well-publicized views on “the Jews” and the Holocaust.
“His views were not challenged on the podcast, which itself has also courted controversy,” CAA pointed out. “Thankfully, there are so many Catholics who cherish their community’s relationship with the Jewish community, including those who have written to us.”
Thousands of Catholics and Jews from across the world slammed Mawdsley and Bennett for the podcast. The CAA messages were reposted on social media by prominent personalities, including Damien Thompson, associate editor of The Spectator and host of the Holy Smoke podcast. “This is an outrage and a gift to the enemies of traditional Catholicism,” Thompson wrote.
After almost a week of being called out for their Jew-hatred, Ashenden, Bennett, and Lambert issued a statement falsely claiming that Mawdsley was a “great scriptural scholar and his books are well worth reading.”
“We have all met Fr Mawdsley, and read his books,” the trio maintained in their defense of the Jew-hating cleric. “He was also perfectly pleasant and kind when we met him.”
In their statement, the Catholic Unscripted team asserted that “the perfect storm of events meant that Katherine (who would ordinarily not be alone) was left at the last minute to conduct the interview on her own.”
However, social media posts reveal that Ashenden was receiving medical treatment and Lambert was away on a pre-planned trip to the Caribbean celebrating 30 years of his marriage.
The statement went on to exonerate Bennett for not challenging Mawdsley on his antisemitic claims, “knowing him to be fiercely well researched and more knowledgable (sic) than her.”
However, an investigation into Mawdsley’s profile and writings reveals that the priest has neither the training nor the credentials of a biblical scholar. After his A-levels at school, he went to Bristol University to study mathematics and physics, but dropped out after three terms.
He was ordained in 2016 after completing his priestly formation at the St. Peter’s Seminary in Wigratzbad, Germany. The seminary does not offer licentiate degrees in biblical scholarship — a canonical requirement in the Roman Catholic Church for a priest or layperson to be recognized as a scripture scholar.
The priest has never published a single article in a peer-reviewed journal or published through an academic press. All his seven books are self-published by his own company New Old. The company does not seem to have published books by any other author.
Mawdsley is also not part of any academic guild of Catholic biblical scholars, such as the Catholic Biblical Federation (international) or the Catholic Biblical Association of Great Britain.
The priest uses an obscurantist methodology, which is rejected by magisterial documents on the use of correct biblical interpretation, such as The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church presented by the Pontifical Biblical Commission to Pope John Paul II on April 23, 1993.
Further, Mawdsley’s misreading of the biblical texts to promote antisemitism is in direct violation of the exegetical and hermeneutical principles laid down in the Vatican’s The Jewish People and their Sacred Scriptures in the Christian Bible.
Indeed, the traditionalist priest’s misinterpretations are based on egregious textual, copyist, and translational errors in the Latin Vulgate, as in the case of his reading of Genesis 3:15 in his self-published book Crushing Satan’s Head: The Virgin Mary’s Victory Over the Antichrist Foretold in the Old Testament.
The erroneous Vulgate rendering of Genesis 3:15 reads: “she [Mary] shall crush your head” instead of “he [Jesus] shall crush your head” — an error finally corrected by the Vatican in the Nova Vulgata (1979) — which Mawdsley has refused to accept. The priest’s case for the entire book collapses when his use of the textual error is exposed.
In a prefatory note, Mawdsley also states that his “book follows the Vulgate and the DRB [Douay-Rheims Bible],” an English translation of the Vulgate that compounds the Latin version’s errors and is not accepted by biblical scholars. Mawdsley also scandalously refers to modern Bible translations as “judaised Bibles.”
While Mawdsley’s writings are completely ignored by Catholic biblical scholars (and most Catholic priests), traditionalist Catholic apologists such as Dr Robert Sungenis, president of Catholic Apologetics International, have attacked Mawdsley’s pretense to biblical scholarship.
In his book Why There Will Not Be a Mass Conversion of the Jews, Sungenis debunks Mawdsley’s book If You Believed Moses: The Conversion of the Jews Promised in the Old Testament, Vol. 1.
Sungenis elaborates:
All in all, when I read Fr. James’ book, If You Believed Moses, and compare it to what has been written about this subject in the past, I see the same mistakes being made; I see the same assumptions being made; I see the same lack of proper scriptural exegesis; I see the same distortion of ecclesiastical history; I see the same lack of critical judgment; and most of all I see the same exaggerated concern for the Jewish people as if the whole world turns on their future.
Mawdsley “asserts that the Latin mass teaches that the Jews will be converted in the future and that such teaching is not in the Novus Ordo mass, which apparently makes the Novus Ordo mass either inferior or illicit in Fr. James’ view.”
“We would first like to point out that the Latin Mass does not teach that the Jews will be converted in the future,” Sungenis notes, slamming Mawdsley for drawing “fantastic prophetic conclusions” from Old Testament historical narratives.
“Unfortunately, Fr. James never tells us how he arrived at his spiritual interpretation, that is, what principles of exegesis did he use to bring himself to such an out-of-context and speculative eschatological conclusion?” Sungenis laments.
“As for what qualifies Fr. James to tackle this somewhat difficult and esoteric subject concerning the future of the Jews, he does not speak of any except his training as a priest in seminary,” Sungenis warns.
In a Good Friday article for the Catholic Herald, Ashenden, who is associate editor at the prestigious Catholic newspaper and hosts the Merely Catholic podcast on its website, called Mawdsley “an influential and, in traditional circles, much admired and respected priest.”
Contradicting the signed statement with his colleagues, Ashenden did not refer to Mawdsley as a “biblical scholar,” but admitted that the priest had “risen to prominence both in self-published books and on YouTube and other internet platforms.”
While failing to condemn Mawdsley’s antisemitism, Ashenden euphemistically commented: “He is unambiguous in his focused claims about ‘the Jews.’”
The Catholic convert from Anglicanism cited articles by Dr. Joseph Shaw, chairman of the Latin Mass Society, which corrects Mawdsley’s flawed conclusions regarding the Jewish influence on the Vatican’s alteration on the Good Friday prayers.
A day after Bennett’s interview with Mawdsley, Ashenden posted his own video on Catholic Unscripted, explaining his perspective on antisemitism.
While not condemning or rebutting the podcast with Mawdsley, Ashenden admitted that “antisemitism” was “toxic,” but he, Bennett and Mark Lambert, the third member of the Catholic Unscripted team, “have different views on a lot of things.”
Jihad Watch first broke the story on Mawdsley’s providing primary sources for the priest’s claim that the Holocaust is “the biggest lie in history.”
“The Holocaust is a lie. It didn’t happen,” Mawdsley said on The Backlash. “Many Jews suffered as they were being expelled from Europe by the Nazis, but there was no genocidal plan from Hitler or the Germans to annihilate the Jews. That’s all a lie. And that’s what they wielded then as a weapon against the Church.”
In a podcast on the white nationalist Substack “White Rabbit,” Mawdsley has also claimed that “Adolf Hitler did not start World War II. It was the Jews.”
Stating that his goal is to “expose the demonic falsity of the Holocaust narrative,” Mawdsley elaborates:
Hitler did not set out to conquer Europe, while the Jews schemed then and now to rule the world. And crucially, the responsibility for the Jews who died in World War II, and that number is much closer to 1 million than to six million, is shared in very different ways by the Axis powers, the Allies and the Jews. I will offer evidence for all this not because I wish to promote National Socialism, but because I do wish to expose the Jewish lies which cause innumerable wars; lies still operative today to destroy nations and souls.
The Catholic Unscripted team has refused to delete the offensive video, despite several complaints.
“Since then we have faced vile attacks and false accusations. We are Christians. We take seriously the teachings of our faith, and have demonstrated that in all we say and do. Our work stands for all to see,” the statement noted.
Senior church authorities said that the bishops have no control over lay Catholics unless they are employed by the diocese.
Neither Ashenden (Shrewsbury diocese) nor Lambert (Brentwood diocese) serve in any official capacity.
In 2023, the Sisters of the Holy Cross reported that they had contributed 15,000 British pounds to the annual running costs of Catholic Unscripted.
Ari Mordechai is a human rights and antisemitic campaigner who lives in Tel Aviv. He is married to Ofek. Two of the couple’s five children have served in the Israeli Defense Forces.
Patriot64 says
Catholics like this are a disgrace and a danger to the faith.
Brian David Riley says
It has to be admitted there is alot of really bad stuff in the OT and religous Jews as well as nearly all Muslims and fundementalist Christians think its OK. As to how many Jews were killed in WW2, i think we shall never know how many. 6 million has become the dogma. I will only quote that infamous Holocaust denier ( inreality revisionist) when he said ” A lot “
somehistory says
People who are not *Christian* shouldn’t try to tell others what Christians “think.”
Neither should non-Jews decide what religious Jews “think.”
Besides the fact that as someone who has faith in Christ, I am aware that I do not *think* the same as others who say they have faith in Him. So, please don’t lump us all together and say what we *think.*
The books of the Hebrew Scriptures, which detail the Promises from God, and the history of the earth and the Jews, are not easily understood and it takes years of reading and study to begin to understand and appreciate what they tell us.
Brian David Riley says
It has to be admitted there is alot of really bad stuff in the OT and religous Jews as well as nearly all Muslims and fundementalist Christians think its OK. As to how many Jews were killed in WW2, i think we shall never know how many. 6 million has become the dogma. I will only quote that infamous Holocaust denier ( inreality revisionist) when he said ” A lot “
Brian David Riley says
It has to be admitted there is alot of really bad stuff in the OT and religous Jews as well as nearly all Muslims and fundementalist Christians think its OK. As to how many Jews were killed in WW2, i think we shall never know how many. 6 million has become the dogma. I will only quote that infamous Holocaust denier ( inreality revisionist) when he said ” A lot “
gravenimage says
Posting this claptrap over and over again does not improve it.
And the Holocaust is on of the most heavily chronicld of all atrocities–the idea that no one has the slightest idea how many vctims there were is simply untrue.
SKA says
If Fr. Mawdsley is preaching the inevitable conversion of the Jews in the End Times it seems that his eschatology is closer to that of the Protestant Evangelical Hal Lindsey than to that of the Doctors of the Catholic Church, SS. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas. Strange indeed.
I have watched one of Fr. Mawdsley’s podcasts and his eyes seem to glint with hatred each time he mentions the Jews.
Siddi Nasrani says
What a sick joke. I suppose that the ” Inquisition ” never happened ?
Just a reminder that YOU Murdered innocent people in the Inquisition.
Have you NO shame ?
somehistory says
More and more, people are sinking into the demonic mire; and as they sink, they mouth the devil’s desires.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
A top official of the Church of England becoming Catholic? This would be like a top Vatican official going Lutheran, or a member of the staff of the Grand Imam of Mecca becoming shi’a. Almost an indication of how seriously to take that faith
MrLogical says
That which the Islamo-fascists do not destroy Christianity, poisonous apostates like Fr. Mawdsley will gladly help them finish off. Who needs Islamists to destroy Great Britain and the rest of the EU, when moral defectives like this are given airtime – and encouragement – to spew their hatred.
And these three ‘Catholics’ see no problem praising and endorsing his nonsense?
Beyond belief, and Satan cheers.
sporticus says
Have I read this correctly: he believes that the Virgin Mary is mentioned in Genesis?
You don’t have to be a biblical scholar to think that odd.
And he believes in the efficacy of prophesies -that might explain why he dropped out of his Physics course.
Easter 2025 and I am reading about an antisemitic Catholic priest.
At one time in France when the position of the Archbishop of Paris was up for election the King was despondent that the most likely candidate was an atheist.
“The best lack all conviction and the worst are full of passionate intensity”.
Easter 1916 by Yeats?
Tony Rice says
Catholic anti-semitism rides again. They don’t give up. Got 2000 years of practice.
rick says
This guy has absolutely no idea of History at all. Everyone knows Hitler’s invasion of Poland commenced WW II. But this guy doesn’t. Most people know that Hitler did not deport Jews from Europe. On the contrary, he liked them right where they were.
But the issue is not this guy who is a “closet with the door wide open” Nazi but Gavin Ashenden, Katherine Bennett, and Mark Lambert who must be examined, questioned, exposed and outed.
When you have a raving lunatic you don’t discuss him as if he is a sane human being and that is who Mawdsley is. But when medical people say the lunatic is perfectly sane, those people need to be examined and fired. That would be the idiot trio of Gavin Ashenden, Katherine Bennett, and Mark Lambert.
Mawdsley says Jews and not Hitler started WW II. I wish that were possible because that many Jews with guns could certainly put a damper on Hitler’s ultimate plan for getting rid of Jews.
Siddi Nasrani says
Is Mawdsley smoking too much Hashish? And this priest is a dangerous evil
anti-Semite. He guy needs telling the obvious truth.
Mind you what do you expect when he bows down to a Idols.
gravenimage says
+1
Lady of the Lake says
Wow what a good piece. Hard to know where to start on this one. I guess I’ll start by asking why are thousands of Catholics and Jews even listening to an obviously low brow. crappola weekly podcast anyway? Y’all need to go play some pickleball… work off your offended feelings. It’s clearly a poorly staffed and produced podcast.
‘“The Jews have infiltrated the church”! OMG Wow eh? Well, since it was Jews who invented the church it should not come as a shock or outrage that Jews are still involved. Jesus, of course, was the master jewish infiltrator of the church… JC was a Jew who preached the Torah!. His best friends and customers were Jews. He favored preaching to Jews over any other group… so it’s no surprise that the Catholic Church has Jews around. No jews… no christianity..
gravenimage says
Queen’s Former Chaplain Endorses Holocaust Denier Priest as ‘Great Scripture Scholar’
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Just appalling stuff.