Yet again, one side says this is a religious war, and once again, the other side will ignore this. Is it really wise to refuse to consider the implications of what those who chant for your destruction say about what motivates them?
“Iranian cleric urges ‘Death to America’ chants until US comes to its senses,” Iran International, March 22, 2025 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A senior Iranian cleric has called for the continued use of the “Death to America” slogan, saying it should be chanted “as long as the United States has not come to its senses.”
Ahmad Khatami, a member of Iran’s Assembly of Experts and Tehran’s interim Friday prayer leader, made the remarks on Saturday during a speech in Tabriz, asserting that US hostility stems from opposition to Islam itself.
“America does not oppose this or that person,” Khatami said. “Based on verses from the Quran, their problem is with Allah.”
US President Donald Trump has sent a message to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, demanding a new nuclear agreement within two months or face consequences if Iran expanded its program. Trump has said several times that the Islamic Republic should never obtain nuclear weapons.
The letter was described as firm in tone and was reportedly shared in advance with close US allies, including Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.
Tehran has acknowledged receiving the letter but has not commented publicly on its contents.
Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, said on Friday that Iran used indirect channels to respond after the US president sent the letter….
Wellington says
Yeah, well I have a problem with Allah for one of two reasons. Reason #1: Allah doesn’t exist. Reason #2: If Allah does exist then mankind resides in a very creepy universe and God’s a jerk (and I would never state this about a deity or deities of other major religions). Yes, should Islam be the true religion (and I’d bet my life on it that it isn’t and not just two cases of beer), then all that the nobler portion of mankind can do is emulate Prometheus and defy this horrible Islamic Zeus no matter what the cost.
Put another way, Islam sucks whether it’s true or not. It’s not true but, arguing in the alternative as a lawyer like myself is sometimes wont to do, Islam sucks even if true.
God, how I despise this religion. Time for a Yuengling.
Gurek says
Very good points. I believe that the world is currently in a creepy situation, if not the whole universe. The reason for this is islam. Such a terrible religion has survived 1400 years to the present day and continues to torture people in places where it is strong (almost everywhere). I would rather go to hell with my own conscience than be in heaven with jihadist killers. The hell as mentioned in the quran, whose fuel is people, has a higher IQ than heaven. There is no doubt about it.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Wellington
For your reason #1, I don’t have any problems w/ allah. He doesn’t exist, so how can I? He is Muhammad’s sock puppet, assuming that even the latter existed, which I no longer do
I completely agree w/ Robert Spencer that islam was brewed in seminaries and palaces in Baghdad and Buqhara, before it started taking shape. One more reason I don’t consider it a religion, unless one thinks that communism and Nazism are religions as well
JS says
Infidel… How can you say that? They affect us all even if we don’t believe a word their “god” says.
One thing which is not clear is their prophet did not have the Quran but did create death, destruction, rape, and mass murder, sex slaves of women and children while he lived. So, – is that when the authors of the Quran began to write about Mo – after he died because he was feared? There was no Quran until six decades after Mo died. They took their time.
Of course Islam was brewed somewhere. It’s simply shocking how many people fell for this lie, and still do which will bring about a world war.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
JS
The argument here offered by Wellington, as well as by Robert Spencer himself, is that islam is an evil religion. While on the substance, it’s true, there are some issues w/ using that as a debating argument
⮞ Most people associate religions as being forces for good, and refuse to hear anything negative about them. The ones who do are opposed to not only islam, but also other mainstream faiths, like Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism…
⮞ Following from this, islam tends to get equated to these mainstream religions like Christianity. When in fact, it’s a geopolitical cult, and has more similarities to Communism than to any mainstream religion. That’s the bigger problem w/ branding islam as a religion. Unless one is willing to do the same w/ Communism, at which point, one is on firmer grounds
The historical stuff about the evolution of the qur’an, as well as the way islamic theology got formulated centuries after he supposedly lived, is useful in dismantling the myth that this “religion” evolved in ways similar to Christianity. Robert came out w/ very credible theories of why islam was put together and how, and if these take hold, it’ll be easier to discredit the claims of islam being a religion, at least in the same way as mainstream religions
Tim gallagher says
Spot on, Wellington. For me, just that evil filth from Koran telling Muslims to kill the non believers is enough for me. In me they have an enemy for life, and they stick their evil concept of god up their arses what a load of filth Islam is.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Wellington.
Billy says
Allah and Islam are partners in a Muslim Terrorist Enterprise against all Non-Muslims as taught in Islam’s Quran(Quran 98:6-7; 9:5,29,111 and more).
Islam, a Terrorist-Criminal Enterprise, and its predatory believers continually fund, promote, and practice ideological subversion, propaganda, bigotry, discrimination, deceit, supremacy, segregation, hatred, violence, and terrorism as taught in Islamic Law and in Islam’s Quran, and Muslim actions should be legally challenged with a multi-faceted force of Western Laws like Muslims wield against Americans and Westerners(Quran 9:5,29; 49:15; 60:4 and more).
Like a Foreign Terrorist Organization(FTO) designated by the USA Secretary of State, Islam is a MUSLIM TERRORIST ORGANIZATION(MTO) fighting against Non-Muslims and NOT A PEACEFUL religion under Western Law because Islam funds, teaches, and promotes a Terrorist Criminal Organization with Muslims as Terrorists for Allah(Quran 9:5,29; 49:15 and more).
Under Islam and Islamic Law, Muslims have the legal right to terrorize Non-Muslims because neglecting this QURANIC DUTY is a Crime against Allah; Jihad means warfare against Non-Muslims to ESTABLISH ISLAM’S RELIGION(Quran 3:151; 9:5,29,111; Muslim Law Manual: “Reliance of the Traveller”, o9.0 and more).
More specifically, Islam, a terroristic-destructive way of life, is a Muslim Terrorist Ideology and Murderous, Criminal Enterprise of intolerance, continuous war, discrimination, segregation, supremacy, genocide, polygamy, propaganda, deceit, hatred, incitement, sedition, rape, terrorism, and violence against all Non-Muslims as taught in the Quran(Quran 2:216; 4:65,89,95; 5:14,64; 8:12,39,74; 9:5,21,29,36, 41,49,73,88,111,123; 21:92; 49:15; 60:4 and more).
Daniel Bielak says
The antisemites who run the U.S. governmental intelligence agencies which, according to Francisco Gil-White, control the policies of the U.S. government are not ignoring the totalitarian, supremacist, anti-Western, antisemitic, ideology of Islamic Jihadi states and organizations. To those Western antisemites, that ideology is not a bug; it’s a feature. According to Francisco Gil-White, those Western antisemites are using Islamic Jihadi states and organizations in an effort to destroy Israel and to subjugate everyone else.
Qatar funds Jihadism – why does the U.S. protect them [an interview with Francisco Gil-White]
youtube.com/watch?v=k8XcHy1F4fk
(I disagree with Francisco Gil-White that President Donald Trump is an enemy of Israel. I think that President Donald Trump is unaware of the anti-Israel efforts by the U.S. governmental intelligence agencies.)
“WAR IS PEACE: Did the US force Israel to cede strategic territory to Iran? And is this is a paradox?” by Francisco Gil-White
franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/us-forced-israel-to-cede-strategic-land-to-iran
“How many Nazis were secretly recruited at the creation of the CIA? Lots…” by Francisco Gil-White
franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/how-many-nazis-were-secretly-recruited
“The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People,” by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Jews-Espionage/dp/0312156480/
“PLO/Fatah’s Nazi training was CIA-sponsored,” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm
“PLO murders US diplomats; US State Department protects…the PLO!,” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/state_plo.htm
“The CIA protected Adolf Eichmann, architect of the Holocaust – Has the US ruling elite been pushing a pro-Nazi policy?” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/eichmann.htm
Daniel Bielak says
“IRAN-CONTRA: STILL A MYSTERY. Part 5: How big was the pro-jihadi conspiracy?” by Francisco Gil-White
franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/iran-contra-how-big-pro-iranian-conspiracy
(Again, I disagree with Francisco Gil-White that President Donald Trump is anti-Israel and pro-Jihadi. I think that President Donald Trump is merely unaware of the anti-Israel pro-Jihadi policies of the U.S. governmental intelligence agencies.)
Daniel Bielak says
And I think that President Donald Trump may be unaware of the nature and actions of Qatar. I think that he is influenced by people such as Steve Witkoff. And I think that he made Israel make the insane hostage deal with Hamas and the ceasefire agreement with Hamas because he was intending to take the political pressure off of Israel and pressure Hamas to surrender. And I think President Donald Trump was intending to prevent the further loss of life and do it by making deals and using political pressure. And now President Donald Trump has told Israel to do what it needs to do to defeat Hamas.
Daniel Bielak says
And I think that President Donald Trump may be unaware of the nature and actions of Qatar. I think that he is influenced by people such as Steve Witkoff. And I think that he made Israel make the insane hostage deal with Hamas and the ceasefire agreement with Hamas because he was intending to take the political pressure off of Israel and pressure Hamas to surrender. And I think President Donald Trump was intending to prevent the further loss of life and do it by making deals and using political pressure. And now President Donald Trump has told Israel to do what it needs to do to defeat Hamas.
Daniel Bielak says
The antisemites who run the U.S. governmental intelligence agencies which, according to Francisco Gil-White, control the policies of the U.S. government are not ignoring the totalitarian, supremacist, anti-Western, antisemitic, ideology of Islamic Jihadi states and organizations. To those Western antisemites, that ideology is not a bug; it’s a feature. According to Francisco Gil-White, those Western antisemites are using Islamic Jihadi states and organizations in an effort to destroy Israel and to subjugate everyone else.
Qatar funds Jihadism – why does the U.S. protect them [an interview with Francisco Gil-White]
youtube.com/watch?v=k8XcHy1F4fk
(I disagree with Francisco Gil-White that President Donald Trump is an enemy of Israel. I think that President Donald Trump is unaware of the anti-Israel efforts by the U.S. governmental intelligence agencies.)
“WAR IS PEACE: Did the US force Israel to cede strategic territory to Iran? And is this is a paradox?” by Francisco Gil-White
franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/us-forced-israel-to-cede-strategic-land-to-iran
“How many Nazis were secretly recruited at the creation of the CIA? Lots…” by Francisco Gil-White
franciscogilwhite.substack.com/p/how-many-nazis-were-secretly-recruited
“The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People,” by John Loftus and Mark Aarons
amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Jews-Espionage/dp/0312156480/
“PLO/Fatah’s Nazi training was CIA-sponsored,” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm
“PLO murders US diplomats; US State Department protects…the PLO!,” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/state_plo.htm
“The CIA protected Adolf Eichmann, architect of the Holocaust – Has the US ruling elite been pushing a pro-Nazi policy?” by Francisco Gil-White
hirhome.com/israel/eichmann.htm
Westman says
“Based on verses from the Quran, their problem is with Allah.”
No it is not, it is with Muhammad, if he existed, and the 7th & 8th century compilers of this man-made hodgepodge of reasonable urging to morals, unreasonable control of women, and ridiculous demands for war culminating in Surah 9. The idea that a deity dictates a Sura about splitting war booty is a sure sign that Allah did not dictate it.
Reorder the Quran properly in historical order and it paints a clear picture of Islam’s evolution from a morals religion to a war religion, growing by conquest. Islam is now in checkmate, unable to assault the West without dire consequences in return. It may succeed in a hundred years to control “Old Europe”, working toward displacement from the inside, yet the notion of world conquest will remain a dream. Free societies will “risk the earth” to remain free from Islam. Then, again, Islam may just fade like Greek Mythology, because it can no longer control the flow of knowledge. Those cellphones in youth hands are a counterpoint.
JS says
It is believed by Muslims that the entire Quran was “dictated” by Allah. That means all of it which includes their prophet and the war instruction manual of the Quran, whose instructions are against the “infidels” and their nations.
What god instructs their followers to kill and subjugate other religions and the entire world? None, but Islam.
So yes, the whole book with their demon “god” and “prophet” is a problem for the west and the world.
If one pays attention we would notice how CAIR has started having people fired from their jobs for what they claim “insults to Islam.” That means writers, YouTube channels, and it’s something new almost every week.
Alkflaeda says
The question in my mind is whether there was a true evolution, or whether it was taqiyya all along – i.e., introduced as a moral critique at the outset, because that’s what religions and new “prophets” do, but with a view to a power-grab.
gravenimage says
+1
Westman says
“Based on verses from the Quran, their problem is with Allah.”
No it is not, it is with Muhammad, if he existed, and the 7th & 8th century compilers of this man-made hodgepodge of reasonable urging to morals, unreasonable control of women, and ridiculous demands for war culminating in Surah 9. The idea that a deity dictates a Sura about splitting war booty is a sure sign that Allah did not dictate it.
Reorder the Quran properly in historical order and it paints a clear picture of Islam’s evolution from a morals religion to a war religion, growing by conquest. Islam is now in checkmate, unable to assault the West without dire consequences in return. It may succeed in a hundred years to control “Old Europe”, working toward displacement from the inside, yet the notion of world conquest will remain a dream. Free societies will “risk the earth” to remain free from Islam. Then, again, Islam may just fade like Greek Mythology, because it can no longer control the flow of knowledge. Those cellphones in youth hands are a counterpoint.
jule says
If the Warlords correctly wrote up Qur’an based on Allah’s ideology and demands then we All know he is not God but a very bad leader. Allah as depicted is not the God of Abraham, Judaism, Christianity or our Universe. Its such a shame so many people are held captive under it and their Warlords.
Alkflaeda says
Agree – no way is Allah anything like the God of the Jewish and Christian scriptures.
jule says
If the Warlords correctly wrote up Qur’an based on Allah’s ideology and demands then we All know he is not God but a very bad leader. Allah as depicted is not the God of Abraham, Judaism, Christianity or our Universe. Its such a shame so many people are held captive under it and their Warlords.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Actually, our problem is w/ islam. There is no such thing as allah, and there was no such person as Muhammad. It’s this elaborate cult that has been developed over the millenia that we are against
James Lincoln says
Yes, Infidel.
Muslims worldwide – especially with access to the Internet – are feeling extreme cognitive dissonance.
If their “islam” is so great, why do Western countries prosper while islamic countries remain crapholes?
C. Jean Posner says
Judeo-Christian culture, which permeates the West, stresses love, peace, and kindness to strangers, while Islam promotes violence against unbelievers, war, child sexual abuse, and subjugation plus physical abuse of women.
Christianity’s ideal man, Jesus, preached nonviolence and tolerance, while Muhammad was a warlord, caravan robber, instigated murder of people who verbally opposed him, and raped his nine year old wife. Nice guy!
Is it any wonder that Western civilization is successful while jihadist “civilization” is a failure?
James Lincoln says
C. Jean Posner,
I agree and thank you for your reply.
gravenimage says
Good post.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
James
It would be interesting and useful to know the extent to which the internet has caused what David Wood describes as an “avalanche of apostasy” in the ummah. We see reports all the time about random people in the West converting to islam and going over to join ISIS, but it would be more interesting to see if there is a net increase or decrease in the world’s muslim population
If it is a decrease, we’d be under no compulsion to assume that anything from 1.8-2.0 billion of the world’s population, or up to 25%, is muslim. Since there would be murtads, MINOs and others in that mix
James Lincoln says
All great questions, Infidel.
And thanks for your reply.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
James
It would be interesting and useful to know the extent to which the internet has caused what David Wood describes as an “avalanche of apostasy” in the ummah. We see reports all the time about random people in the West converting to islam and going over to join ISIS, but it would be more interesting to see if there is a net increase or decrease in the world’s muslim population
If it is a decrease, we’d be under no compulsion to assume that anything from 1.8-2.0 billion of the world’s population, or up to 25%, is muslim. Since there would be murtads, MINOs and others in that mix
gravenimage says
I hope so, Infidel.
James Lincoln says
Yes, Infidel.
Muslims worldwide – especially with access to the Internet – are feeling extreme cognitive dissonance.
If their “islam” is so great, why do Western countries prosper while islamic countries remain crapholes?
gravenimage says
Good question.
Michael says
Because we serve Jesus Christ the true living God not Allah the God of Muhammad who made him up in his mind to kill and enslave people.
Our God is loving and merciful.
OLD GUY says
It would be well served to close all Mosques and deport all non-resident islamic followers/jihadist. Followed by closing immigration from islamic countries. Islam is nothing but a murderess cult that has set out to rule the world. ISLAM MUST BE STOPED!
JS says
Yes, but All should include “residents” as well.
Hrb says
Muslims will never assimilate into to any western culture. They bring violence and chaos to every country they invade. The United states of America has made a grievance error in letting them into our country. Obama violated a directive and brought 70000 Somali into our country, and America has paid a price for that planned move. Then four years of open borders has been a disaster. We have muslims calling for the death of America. Cair and the muslim Brotherhood has been very active in muslim terrorists activities. Look at England, Ireland and Europe. The muslims have turned it into a $hithole. Here in the United States they are slowly but surely.pulling our country into the same situation as Europe. They are an exclusive “mens” club. The idea that it is your right to do what you want to any woman or man for that matters is an evil. They look at our constitution and rights as nothing but a piece of paper. Our country was based on Judaism beliefs Our money has in God we trust. In court we place on hand on the Bible. These muslims are trying to set up communities with sharia law. That is going.against our constitution. I for one will.Never support muslims. They should be.deported back to their own county. I would remind this muslims that Americans are. Armed, we fought the British for our freedoms and it will be no different with muslims. God bless.America!
JS says
Yes, agree completely. Get them out and separate our nation from them. You should read MEMRI (.org). Be sure to subscribe for their free reports and visit the section called: Sermons of Imans in the West. There you’ll find what mosques in the U.S. say and plan for the infidels demise.
Obama and then Biden allowed countless Muslims emigrate to the U.S. Question is, who was running the Biden, because it certainly wasn’t him. Many of them have questionable backgrounds and were probably not vetted adequately.
Alkflaeda says
I definitely have a problem with Islam’s deity – if you check out the hadith episode given in https://www.raymondibrahim.com/2022/06/20/zakaria-botros-87-and-still-boldly-challenging-islam/ it appears that Muhammed’s supernatural encounters were with demons, not with the angels of God. Incidentally, I am wondering if Muhammed, which I believe means “the praised”, could have been a title rather than a name, just as the pronunciation of Allah seems to me to imply that it is an elision of al-ilah, i.e., the god. My reason for mentioning this is that I’d prefer not to use these names if this is the case,
somehistory says
I don’t “oppose this or that person.” I oppose all… every one of them… mozlums. They all, every one of them, are in opposition to Truth, Goodness, Mildness, Faith, Self-control, Kindness, Love, Long-suffering, (Patience) Joy and Peace.
mozlums are all….every one of them….in opposition to God, His Son, and all humans who try to good to others. They oppose the rest of mankind in making personal choices and acting on those choices.
and, I’m really very tired of these mozlums spouting their evil lies and stupid proclamations.
Furthermore, as the Apostle Peter wrote, “Oppos the devil.” So, I do, along with all of his “children.”
Paul Endes says
Me have a problem with Allah, or better known as Satan the deceiver,he has a problem with me.
I teach to Muslims and Hindus every two weeks and we have 649 that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and about 20 Hindu religious leaders.
little Satan never got in my way because God Himself moved him. And guess what, we will continue to bring souls to Christ and little satan will not be on my way, because I don’t as allow it.
gravenimage says
Muslim cleric: US ‘doesn’t oppose this or that person. Based on verses from the Quran, their problem is with Allah.’
…………………………………………….
So–the ‘filthy Infidels’ have trouble with an Allah which is described as wanting us enslaved or dead. Bad dhimmis!
Paul Endes says
SILENCE, I Keel you