Trump demanded that Hamas release all its Israeli hostages by noon Saturday, or “all bets are off.” Hamas is hedging. Do they want to provoke Trump into an attack, presumably by Israeli forces, so that they can play the victim and the world will once again rain down condemnations on Israel and force it to stop, while showering Hamas with “humanitarian aid” it can use to continue its jihad? With the Biden regime gone, will that work?
“Hamas tells Trump ‘threats have no value,’ as Israeli far right praises US ultimatum,” Times of Israel, February 11, 2025:
Hamas said Tuesday that US President Donald Trump’s demand that the terror group release all its hostages by noon Saturday — or “all bets are off” — “further complicates matters” relating to the fragile Gaza truce, after the terror group announced Monday that it would delay the next scheduled hostage release over alleged Israeli violations of the deal.
“Trump must remember that there is an agreement that must be respected by both parties and this is the only way to return the prisoners,” Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told AFP, referring to the hostages.
“The language of threats has no value and further complicates matters,” he added.
Speaking to reporters at the White House on Monday, Trump said, “As far as I’m concerned, if all of the hostages aren’t returned by Saturday 12 o’clock — I think it’s an appropriate time — I would say cancel it and all bets are off and let hell break out.”
His comments — which drew praise from the Israeli far right, including some hostages’ families — came hours after Hamas announced that it intended to delay the next release of hostages planned for Saturday, “until further notice.”
The terror group justified the move by alleging Israeli violations of the deal, claiming falsely that the military has obstructed displaced Palestinians’ return to the northern Strip, and asserting that Israel has prevented the flow of some humanitarian aid items, such as trailers for temporary shelter, into the enclave.
The three-stage ceasefire agreement, reached last month, halted some 15 months of fighting triggered by the group’s October 7, 2023, invasion of Israel, when Hamas-led terrorists killed some 1,200 people and took 251 hostages….
rick says
Perhaps the best way to react to anything “Palestinian” is to ignore it. That cannot be an Israeli option but maybe it could be a US one. So number one, we don’t answer the phone when they call. We don’t respond when “humanitarian” requests for US Aid are made. We don’t ever meet with anyone mildly associated with Hamas. especially. We carry out a very thorough investigation in the United States of any group that has Hamas connections ( CAIR was one in the past and probably still is) or any Palestinian anything connection. Palestine doesn’t exist and we choose to ignore any potential relation with any fantasy political entities as we are having enough problems with those who actually do exist.
somehistory says
Yes, cair is still very much connected to hamas, and the ‘brotherhood,’ and so are the icna, msa, and some others less well-known. And let’s not forget ratshida tlaib…who wears the ugly terror scarf and shouts about being ‘palestinian.’
Angeli says
Isn’t that the ‘lady’ who has a face that looks like a well slapped backside?? 🤔😄
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Good. So after Saturday noon, Israel should end the ceasefire and resume bombing operations in Gaza. This time, taking less effort to avoid harming civilians. That way, the Gazans will feel more motivated to take up Trump’s idea of moving to any other country, such as Somalia. While Israel will be given a carte blanche to wipe out Hamas
In fact, Israel should be given a green light to attack Hamas not only in Gaza, but in Judea and Samaria as well
somehistory says
If you’re fighting rats in the pantry.. and you have rats in the attic, rats in the basement, and. .they have gnawed holes in your living room wall…..
Samer says
President Trump’s proposal regarding Gaza is the proposal of a person who is ignorant of the nature and history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, not to mention that it is a proposal characterized by naivety. President Trump’s alternative proposal is as follows: Return the status of Gaza and the West Bank to the status quo ante of the July War in 1967, when Gaza was under Egyptian control and the West Bank under Jordanian control. Regarding the West Bank, I propose the establishment of a Jordanian-Palestinian federation, not an independent Palestinian state. This is the only solution to the problem that the United States should pressure all parties to accept. Please convey my proposal to President Trump or one of his advisors.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
No. You people don’t get to wage war on Israel, and still remain in your territory like nothing f🤬king happened! Crack a history book: in just about every war in history, the victor ended up w/ more territory, and the vanquished lost territory. Heck, look at Russia & Ukraine now: nobody expects Ukraine to keep all the territory it lost in this war, even though they weren’t even the aggressor
Having started this war on October 7th, Israel would be fully justified in doing what it did in 1982. When Israel trounced the PLO then, they forced the PLO to leave Lebanon for Tunisia. Something similar needs to happen now: all Palestinians, who were allowed in after the 1993 Oslo Accords, now need to be expelled, given that they have proven that they are a bad faith interlocutor as far as peace goes. What Trump is hopefully doing is finding out an Arab country they can move to, so that there won’t be a repeat of the rapes of Europeans
Once that is found, they can move y’all there, to build a new life. Israel can annex Judea and Samaria, and hand over Gaza to the US to make whatever changes Trump envisaged
somehistory says
Just where, samer, do you buy your boloney? It won’t re-sell here.
The terrorists have been given too much leniency, too many *rewards* for their evil actions.
It seems the time has come for the Landlord to evict the worthless tenants.
loek says
Hi Samer, I am afraid your suggestion will not solve anything. The vast majority of the Palestinians hate Israel so much that they will not stop fighting, killing and make war in any way possible.
Samer says
Thank you for your response. Not only do Palestinians hate Jews and the State of Israel, but most Arabs and Muslims do this too. When the situation returns to the state it was before the 1967 war, they will be under Jordanian control, and thus will not be able to carry out terrorist operations against Israeli citizens. The same is true when Gaza is under Egyptian control, and Hamas will not be able to carry out terrorist operations against Israel.
somehistory says
did you not read some months ago that ‘palestinians’ from ***Jordan*** showed their terrorist abilities when they were attempting murder against Israeli soldiers at a crossing? I cannot recall if they were successful in their murderous attempt, but they came in from Jordan to murder.
And then there are the tunnels from ***Egypt**** used to smuggle people and weapons used to murder Jews in Israel.
Saying that they won’t be able is nonsense. and saying that Israel should give up **land** for this is obscene.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Somehistory.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
You just said it. If all the Arabs hate Israel, and Jews to boot, why should Jerusalem be the one giving them anything? They are lucky that they’ve not been evicted as yet, just like Gazan Jews were in 2005. Or like Stalin deported a whole bunch of Tatars and other muslim peoples to Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan during WWII
Anyway, come this Saturday, the war will resume, since Hamas is not likely to return all the hostages. Once that happens, Israel will be at liberty to this time massacre everybody. President Trump was being humane by suggesting their evacuation, but if they wanna remain, they would be legitimate casualties of the war
Rob Porter says
Samer, Nobody will take any notice of your proposal. Because of Muslim delight in hatred and intolerance, and Islamic teachings toward Jews and other”unbelievers”, it would simply perpetuate what hasn’t worked for decades. While I have serious doubts about the long-term value of Trump’s proposal for building up Gaza into a wondrous ‘Riviera’, I think his plan of removing all these Arabs to other countries is excellent.
In my case I propose expelling all Arabs in West Bank who refuse to swear allegiance to Israel, to smelly dumps like Saudi Arabia, Somalia and Somaliland, and incorporate Judea and Samaria into Israel proper.
Just as the Arabs invaded and took over many lands, murdering millions and stealing their land, including what is today Israel, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, the time has come to boot these Arab Muslims out of Israel to another Arab-speaking country. It is all too obvious that being Muslim they will always hate Jews and try to either make life miserable for them or kill them.
somehistory says
If threats don’t work, if “the language of threats has no value,” why do mozlums make threats so often?
If President Trump stands solid, renews the ‘language of threats,’ in different ways, hamas will have to do something. mozlums don’t like to ‘lose face,’ or ‘honor,’….their faces are evil ugly and they have no honor…so I expect they’ll wait until around 11:55 to begin some action and do a slow-walk.
somehistory says
“Israel orders IDF to surround Gaza as Netanyahu issues chilling 4-day ultimatum”
“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the army to increase troops in and around Gaza after Hamas threatened to call off the hostage release slated for Saturday, according to an Israeli official.
Netanyahu also ordered officials “to prepare for every scenario if Hamas doesn’t release our hostages this Saturday,” the official added.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-orders-idf-to-surround-gaza-as-netanyahu-issues-chilling-4-day-ultimatum/ar-AA1yPQS4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=f98d0dfe073047d1eebb6ff9385a2971&ei=60
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Yeah, it came a day after Trump’s ultimatum. I didn’t like Trump’s original ceasefire, which put pressure on Israel to trade prisoners for hostages, and that too very disproportionately. Finally, 2 days ago, after seeing the plight of the 3 released hostages, he came to his senses and issued the ultimatum he did yesterday
So now, Bibi has backed it up, and this fight looks set to resume. On top of that, today King Abdullah of Jordan relented and said that he was willing to take Pali children, which is an improvement. Maybe President Sisi will agree to take the women, and once left to themselves, the fighting age men will agree to be sent to Somalia
somehistory says
Things do seem to be moving.
Rob Porter says
When upon Trump becoming president on January 20th Hamas had not returned all hostages and he did not invoke ‘all hell on Gaza’, I was significantly critical and felt that really tough measures from him were necessary without further jeopardizing the lives of hostages.
His promise of all hell braking loose on Saturday is spot on and I am fascinated by what action he will take in the face of Hamas bravado.
Trump now needs to forewarn Hamas that if during his expected retaliation a hostage is harmed he will have 100 Hamas prisoners in Israeli custody summarily executed and if all hostages are murdered ALL Hamas and other Palestinian prisoners will be taken to some part of Gaza and obliterated. This is ‘language’ they understand. Saudi Arabia and Qatar won’t like it, but they should have helped avoid this eventuality.
Peter WF says
Simplifies things.
abu taleb says
You just can not trust muslims. Period.
Angeli says
Truer words will never be spoken. I’d trust a snake before I’d trust a mohammedan.
Daniel Triplett says
I was hoping Hamas would reject Trump’s ultimatum. The Ummah needs to see what American resolve and unrestricted “all Hell” force looks like. Let’s give them a Cologne/Dresden experience they won’t soon forget. A formation of 24 B-52/B-1 with contrails filling the sky overhead at 1201 Saturday would be an unforgettable show of force, with its bomb train converting every square foot of a earth below into cratered dust. Followed by another dozen waves of the same. And with Gaza’s easy coastal access, this would also be an excellent opportunity to demonstrate a Naval artillery unrelenting pounding reminiscent of Normandy and Iwo Jima. It’s as much about the psychological fear from the Show of Force as it is the actual kinetic damage on the ground.
James Lincoln says
Daniel Triplett,
Nice to see you back posting!
Daniel Triplett says
Thanks Brother. You too! The Jihad continues unabated. We all have a lot of work to do.
gravenimage says
Yes, good to see you, Daniel. Hope you are well.
Daniel Triplett says
Likewise GI. I’m glad you’re still active in the Counterjihad campaign.
tom parry says
Sounds like a plan that will work, plus it help with the demolition of all their mosks
Rob Porter says
Daniel, and I was considering my suggestions above extreme!
I will say that not long ago Mosab Hassan Yousef recommend that Israel execute all Hasan members in their prisons. I considered the timing for that wrong because was evident that Hamas would take revenge on the hostages in teir captivity.
The fact is, neither the U.S. nor Israel will deliberately bomb civilians.
Daniel Triplett says
Well, of course, the victors in any war get to judge what’s a “war crime” and what isn’t. All the countries without our air force capabilities have sought our signature on and cooperation with such restrictions. We refused. And the fact is, no one has ever been prosecuted for the intentional targeting and aerial bombardment of civilians. Even with all the war crimes for which we prosecuted Nazis, not one Luftwaffe pilot or commander was indicted for the targeting and sustained aerial bombardment of British civilians. Indeed, as you’ll recall, we ourselves razed several hundred German and Japanese cities to the ground, through Strategic Area Bombing, killing every man, woman, and child in range. We wouldn’t have won the war if we hadn’t.
Killing prisoners of war is a war crime. Rounding up civilians against a wall and machine-gunning them is a war crime. But bombing those same civilians from the air is not. If it were, that would entirely neuter our nuclear deterrence doctrine.
Whether today’s American electorate has the stomach for bombing civilians is an entirely different question than the legality of it.
Puddleglum says
“The language of threats has no value?”
Worst self-own EVER, terrorist.
Controse says
Time to kiss your ass goodbye Hamas.
gravenimage says
Hamas rejects Trump’s ultimatum, says ‘language of threats has no value and further complicates matters’
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“No threats”, huh? I should know by now never to read Jihad Watch while drinking coffee. This was unintentionally hilarious–good thing I know to be careful these days…
Oren says
It is sad to even read the headline of this horrible deal continuing. The people of Israel must understand better, so that we do not keep making mistakes. The way they think is wrong, the way we relate to different arab muslim threats is incorrect, and if we can fix the problem, which cannot be done without causing some suffering, then we can avoid much greater suffering. If we are too afraid to suffer, and we are unable to talk about upsetting things, then we will only be able to change after tremendous suffering and tragedy.
We have already lost 1500 Jewish lives, due to our inability to embrace the level of threat we face, and demand that proper defenses be implemented. We may not like it, but our leaders will allow us to get killed if our opinions need to be changed, and they cannot be changed through reasoned discussion. Politicians will tell us what we want to hear, even if its wrong, even if they know it will result in our deaths, because if they don’t do it, they know that another politician will.
Our ideas were too weak, and they resulted in our suffering. The way we end hamas, the way we take the best opportunity we have available to end hamas, will dictate if we lose another 1500 Jewish lives, or more. The muslim nations who hate us are watching, they want to see if Israel is strong, or are Israelis a bunch of crying women who beg for their hostages.
The muslim nations surrounding Israel do not attack Israel directly, because they are afraid of the consequences of doing so. They understand that the Jewish peoples thinking concedes to the notion of war, and defending themselves by defeating the enemy. That’s why we are attacked by psudo nations, with land claims against us, no matter how absurd they are.
Once upon a time we had no police, and no jails, but we got smarter, we understood that there were some people who were violent, some who were thieves. So, we created police and jails, and our position improved. By the same token, I believe we can understand the nature of muslim hatred against Jews. We can understand the different arrangements, like the more sophisticated supposed land claim and sovereignty movement of the ‘palestinians’. We can understand that the muslims will tell any lie to be able to hurt us, to express their hate, and to compel their desire to undermine and destroy our nation.
When we understand that we cannot allow pseudo states in our proximity outside of the rules of war, when we understand that we cannot allow lies about a fake palestinian people to reach a fervor, then we will be able to deal with it, and take the opportunities presented before us, to separate ourselves from the muslims of Israel, to the greatest degree we are able, and to maximize our level of control over the security situation in our region, for as long as circumstances force us to live together.
There are other arrangements around us, other threats from different muslim communities. We should measure each one, discuss the threat they represent, and implement the maximumly beneficial solution we are able under the current narrative, while advocating for a greater understanding among the Jewish people of Israel, as well as a more appropriate level of power for Israeli leaders to manage the Israeli public that is not smart or tough enough to decide how wars are fought.
The terrorists who control Lebanon, have been a repeated threat, that has costed us peace, and threatens to destroy our cities one day. We cannot believe our politicians about how many missiles hezbola really has, because our politicians promote us to submit to muslim abuse most of the time. Our first objective should be to maximize the pressure from the people. Tell the people of Israel, we should do what we need to in order to destroy those missiles, and make our presence and influence known in Lebanon, to maximize the stability and benefit to Israel. We should maximize our support for Lebanese government that most supports our objectives, even supporting tyrannical dictatorships, and minority rule for our benefit. The UN and the west do not complain about minority ruled tyrannical dictatorships all over the world.
But the immediate disaster facing us, is the not attacking Gaza, not removing hamas, not relocating millions of muslims away from us, for some 42 living Jewish hostages. If our thinking is not correct, we will end up suffering another 1500 Jewish losses, or more, in the future. If our thinking is correct, then we can control the Gaza strip. We may lose some soldiers in sporadic fighting, but utilizing the tool of relocating the muslims away from Israel, we can radically reduce the amount of Jewish soldiers we lose due to fighting terrorists, or we can end it completely. It all depends on how strong are the thoughts of the Jewish people of Israel. Do Jews learn from talking? Or do the Jews of today only learn from suffering?
I wonder if the feelings of Jewish women causes the Jewish people disasters. I wonder if democracy is really strong enough to fight wars, especially the seriousness of the threat that we face. Do the men of Israel have the balls to say that women should lose the right to vote? That may be what is needed. I would like to know what percent of Jewish women versus Jewish men support abandoning the philidelphia corridor, and continuing this war? What percent of the people of Tel Aviv support this war, and what percent of the women of Tel Aviv support this war. Democracy is heavily based on the assumption that the voters are smart enough in sufficient numbers, to make the right choices. That includes the women, do their emotions distort their logical facilities in numbers that make them incapable of conducting a war?
The people who run this world do not always follow what the majority wants. They usually force us to go left, when the people might prefer to be more conservative. We can argue the morality of that arrangement, or why they are forcing the people to confront their dysfunctional beliefs, forcing them to stand up for what is right, or to succumb to immorality. But I believe that there may be a chance that if the women of the Jewish people are to soft hearted to defend themselves from the manipulation of the hostages, that there might be a peaceful way for us to over rule their votes. If democracy is the issue in itself, then that issue as well could be fixed undemocratically, with as little suffering as possible. I put my faith in G-d’s destiny for our people, and the truth.
Other points I thought while preparing this appeal. If democracies are so good why do they need false flags to get into war? All governments need them, but Americas contribution in WW2 was miniscule compared to the USSR’s, Britains was bigger, but in the American civil war, Lincolin basically suspended democracy. He arrested media that was critical of the war. I consider the struggle Israel and the Jewish people face as a massive war, cold and hot. It will take a long time, and we should consider if democracy works for it.
Oren says
Telling the gentiles how much they need the Jews for their financial success, is not going to work to save us. Our adversaries are not moral, they are often oblivious to consequences, and they are demonically motivated to censor the truth.
The reason so many exile Jews perish, is because living in exile was a solution born in sin from the beginning. Just because Jews at some point in time are able to succeed more in exile and make more babies, does not mean that they have not signed themselves up to a disastrous arrangement. With predictable cycles of destruction, that probably end up costing us more lives and suffering, than we would have experienced had we stayed in Israel from the beginning, stayed and fought, rather than request refuge from the gentiles and offer our service to them, enlarging their economic power, to a greater level than Israels. Ending that arrangement will probably have a price.
Today this original sin of the Jews, of abandoning Israel and their faith in G-d to deliver them victory in Israel, in sufficient numbers, is reflected in the Israelis who believe that we are dependent on the americans for our rights and safety. We see America as giants, we see ourselves as grasshoppers, making the gentiles think we are weak beggars, to be manipulated and oppressed, for preferable public narratives. We are a people blessed by G-d with tremendous talents, not a people to small to make ammunition. The importance of merit, morality and G-d in this world is critical and absolute, and so is our power when we embrace our rightful role, and our rightful place in this world.
Our nation is only able to protect us if the common Jew in Israel is smart enough to understand the threat of Jew hatred, bias from the west, and hatred from the muslims, sufficiently to support the actions to allow us to defend ourselves. They might get angry at us, they will probably cause us economic suffering. Our nation only works, if we can see the benefit of one option over the other accurately, to allow us to move forward.
Our situation with the Jewish women is exactly the same. The muslims are clearly taking hostages in order to emotionally manipulate the women of Israel into surrendering the fight against hamas. The question is do enough percent of Jewish women think correctly, to enable us to fight against our enemies, or can the fear of loosing 42 living Jewish hostages, be enough to make Israel forget the 1500 dead Jews the lost because of hamas.
Public opinion among the Jewish people is a real thing. It is not easy to get the Jewish people to agree to suffer deaths in war. Some times it’s the right thing, but it may not be easy regardless. Looking at this ultimatum of releasing all the starving hostages immediately as an opportunity to reach for the right action, will result in the defeat of hamas, and the hopeful relocation of the muslims of Gaza. Not taking this moment, might mean that the balance of scales is against us, and we do not finish off hamas in the future.
Some Jews cant see consequences, they cannot see that doing the right thing is a struggle, and there are vast numbers of women who cry over hostages, and forget how many we have lost, how many we will loose the next time because of our refusal to do the right thing. Perhaps the muslims are right, perhaps Israel is weak because Israel gives women the right to vote, and an insufficient percentage of the women are able to stand up to the endless emotional manipulation hamas is imposing with the hostages.
I wish that Israel was bold, and asserted its independence, and declared they wouldn’t wait one more moment and allow Israeli hostages to starve, regardless of what Trump says about waiting for Saturday. But I am not sensing that type of discourse of outrage over what the terrorists are doing.
This is now making me wonder if loosing Ben Gavir was a mistake. We have been blessed with a right wing religious government, and we are crippled by women who cant think logically, and a system of government that does not protect us from immoral people whose minds have been compromised by their sins, and the hardships and humiliations of our current living arrangements. We have a great deal to do, In G-d I trust.
We are supposed to have a representative government that defends us from situations like terrorists making girls cry over hostages, but I cant deny that prejudice world opinion and economic considerations often compels the Israeli government to choose kindness over angering the world. It makes sense that the influence of the world slants the Israeli government against us. Lets pray that it is not so corrupted that it will require a civil war to change. I am hopeful that G-d has created a better way forward.
G-d has made it so our humiliation comes through our women, not through ourselves. Our flawed ideas, the flawed ideas we inherited from our people and nations, are all punished through our women. G-d has made them helpers, for and against us, often servants, who dream of a good master. May we navigate what is possible and impossible, in a fair and wise manner, so our people do not get suffer our foolishness.
I will post a video of this soon.