Note that the leftists don’t offer an alternative that will actually “bring people together.” They just mouth the usual platitudes and propaganda.
Above all, they do not explain why the Netherlands must endure the presence of a violent group that has no respect for Dutch law, or what benefit doing so will bring to the Dutch people.
“Anti-Islam Wilders wants to deport Muslims for Amsterdam violence,” TRT World, November 14, 2024:
Far-right Dutch political leader Geert Wilders blamed “Moroccans and Muslims” for attacks on Israeli football fans in Amsterdam last week, asserting that they “want to destroy Jews” and recommending the deportation of people convicted of involvement if they have dual nationality….
After the match, a large group of Maccabi supporters armed with sticks ran around “destroying things,” a 12-page report on the violence issued by Amsterdam authorities said.
This is a dubious claim that already seems to be falling apart.
There were also “rioters, moving in small groups, by foot, scooter or car, quickly attacking Maccabi fans before disappearing,” it said.
Amsterdam police said five people were treated in hospital for injuries. Police detained dozens of people before the match, but there were no immediate arrests for violence after it….
Wilders, whose anti-immigration Party for Freedom won elections last year and now is part of a four-party ruling coalition government, said Wednesday that on the night Amsterdam commemorated Kristallnacht, the 1938 anti-Jewish pogrom in Nazi Germany, “we saw Muslims hunting Jews on the streets of Amsterdam,” and blamed ”Moroccans who want to destroy Jews”….
Rob Jetten of the centrist D66 party said Wilders’ rhetoric “does not contribute in any way to healing. In no way does he contribute to bringing our country together, but he throws oil on the fire and thus does not bring solutions against antisemitism and for a better society any closer, but only further away.”
Frans Timmermans, who leads the biggest center-left bloc in parliament, agreed.
“What you are doing is just stirring things up, dividing this country when this country needs politicians who bring people together, who bring solutions closer,” Timmermans said.
In Amsterdam, a prominent Jewish member of the City Council, Itay Garmy, said that although there’s a lot of anger and fear within the Jewish community, inflammatory remarks wouldn’t help.
“Don’t use my security or my suffering or my fear as a Jew to create political gains for yourself and make your points about integration, migration or Muslim hate,” Garmy said.
Nera says
Should have never let them in so that’s the least to do now.
somehistory says
The man ‘hates” the violence, murders, rapes committed by these mozlum mobs. And that’s a good thing.
those who oppose are supporters of evil and terrorism.
Sides are being chosen and it’s obvious.
Ernie says
+1
gravenimage says
Spot on, Somehistory and Ernie.
England Invaded says
Europeans will have to end them given politics is useless on every level now.
mgoldberg says
Phyllis Chesler wrote an article on the subject:
The Defiant and Dangerous Dutch
Nazi, self-styled “freedom fighters,” performatively speaking
PHYLLIS CHESLER
NOV 15
The Dutch government banned demonstrations but that did not stop the pro-Palestine demonstrators from carrying on. Every day after the infamous pre-planned “Jew hunt”, Dutchman and Dutchwomen have demonstrated–not against Jew hatred but rather, one more time, for “Palestine.”
It’s really so odd. Middle East Muslim Arabs colonized and converted North Africa, Central Asia, and parts of Europe. The Dutch colonized Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Suriname and Brazil, New York City, Curacao in the Caribbean. The real colonizers, both the Dutch and the Muslims, take no responsibility for their past colonial “crimes.” Instead, they scapegoat Israel which has not colonized anything, the Jews only returned to their ancestral lands as refugees from both Islam and Christianity.
Once again: The Dutch government banned demonstrations. Piffle. You cannot order Nazi-Jihadists around, especially those who think they’re performative “freedom-fighters”. Thus, large crowds gathered on November 11th, 13th, and 14th, defiantly screaming vulgar, repetitive chants: “Fu-k Netanyahu, Fu-k Israel, Free Palestine.” The apparently non-Arab leader adopted the hoarse, raging, half-strangled voice of Jihad. On November 14th, Amsterdam police arrested and relocated 260 pro-Palestine protesters from Dam Square to a park where they were permitted to carry on their menacing presence. The text below one of the videos, actually blames Maccabi supporters for provoking what was a pre-planned “Jew hunt.”
They demonstrated even as the Dutch Cabinet was discussing the Dutch-Moroccan planned Jew hunt.
I wrote the following about the Dutch Cabinet yesterday.
The Dutch Cabinet
Breaking News! The Dutch House of Representatives debated for many hours and expressed “horror and condemnation at the stalking, chasing, and mistreating of Israeli football fans.”
So far so good. At least it sounds good, right?
The Dutch Cabinet is now focused on a potential range of “strategies against anti-Semitism.” Their options include “extending the possible revocation of Dutch nationality (for) anti-Semitic violence for those with dual Dutch-Moroccan citizenship.” Morocco automatically issues citizenship to all generations of Dutch citizens who have Moroccan ancestry.
And what if Morocco refuses to accept a Moroccan citizen who has committed a major criminal and/or a serious terrorist act? Is Devil’s Island the alternative?
The Cabinet also discussed: “banning face-covering clothing at demonstrations;” “increasing the penalties for anti-Semitism;” “Banning organizations like Samidoun;” Budgeting “4.5 million euros for tackling anti-Semitism, 1.2 million of that for the security of Jewish schools.”
Ban face veils? So that cowardly bullies can be identified? I doubt that will happen. What would the penalties be? If severe enough, if actually implemented–well, we’ll see.
The Dutch government banned demonstrations–and yet, defiantly, the anti-Israel/anti-Semitic mobs continued demonstrating for days, even setting fire to a tram.
Since 2017, nearly sixty cases to “revoke Dutch passports in the interest of national security…(including a) conviction for a terrorist offense. Almost all of these decision have been challenged in court.”
What will the Cabinet really do? All of the above? Any of the above? And how quickly will such strategies be implemented? The Cabinet “needs more time…”
The Jews of Europe, the Jews of Israel do not have time. It’s only a matter of hours, perhaps days, before another Nazi-like Islamist Jew-hunt will be perpetrated in Europe.
We’ve been living through countless boycotts, Wanted Posters of Jewish faculty being posted on university walls, ripping down posters of Israeli hostages, signing petitions to boycott almost everyone in Israel, refuse hotel lodgings to Israelis, aggressive campus encampments, mobs in the streets, individuals and small groups attacking visible Jews, visible Jewish establishments, etc.
rubiconcrest says
“What you are doing is just stirring things up, dividing this country when this country needs politicians who bring people together, who bring solutions closer,” Timmermans said.
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No what Wilders is suggesting is separating those who won’t come together from those who will and that means permanently separating them from Holland. That’s fair.
Agree, mg says.
mgoldberg says
of course.
gravenimage says
+1
Pug says
Former Dutch Prime Minister Rutte has officially apologized for the Nertherlands / Surinaams colonial slavery. Talks are underway about “compensation.” Not everyone agrees.
The mayor of amsterdam had issued an emergency order: no demonstrations and a face-covering ban. The demonstrators came with face covering anyway. The police once again acted very weakly, virtually no arrests or fines. We are now dealing with a two-tier law enforcement – no crackdown on left/woke/pro-hamas demonstrators who from time to time are quite aggressive and a police lash out when it is a “right-wing” demonstration – like during the peace-loving corona coffee-drinking demonstrations at the museum square. (Even the UN reported on the excessive police violence).
Many amsterdam Jews no longer feel safe in amsterdam. Especially now that it is known that it was a planned attack on them. Slowly some arrests have been made. But because of the weak police action, many who participated in this progrom will not stand trial.
Most people and the left in particular still don’t realize / don’t want to know that the the Jews hatred stems from Islam culture and the Koran. The left cherishes the Muslims.
Ernie says
MMMMMmmmmm, grotesque generalization of “The Dutch” peoples attitude concerning Israel and the Jewish people . GROTESQUE , and it pisses me off bigtime .
soda says
So the Left and pro-Islam groups want “healing and solutions?” What have they brought to the table (as Robert pointed out)?
When the word ‘healing’ is mentioned, it usually means pain and suffering happened on BOTH sides…when the truth is that only one side is genocidal and is hell-bent on killing Jews while the other just wants to live in peace.
Does Timmermans want a compromise and let Muslims beat up just half the Jews and call it even? These effin morons are completely clueless and are just grasping at straws to have ‘peace and calm’ or they’re sinister and are also antisemites are just pretending to be peace-makers to aid in preventing deportations.
Here are your solutions to this issue:
1-round up all the Jew-haters and send them to re-education camps, China style and beat the antisemitism out of them.
2-find all the antisemites and throw them out of the country without mercy…including all Muslims or spy on them to see their views and take them out one by one if you prefer.
3-do nothing, keep spewing worthless platitudes so that Jews are killed or are forced to leave the country.
4-civil war…the pro and anti-Israel forces get armed and whoever wins, runs the country.
By the way, if you support evil, then you are evil too. These Lefties pretending to be peace-makers are really a part of the problem as they prevent the “doctor” from removing the “cancer” in their midst.
War is the last resort and hopefully in the end they will deport the bad guys. But most likely things will get a lot worse and there is a possibility that the bad guys win and turn Holland and Europe into a no-go zone hell hole…in which case it’ll probably lead to civil war.
There are few good options the right solution is deportation or the future will be very ugly…the Muslims just gave us a taste of what’s to come if they are not controlled.
Rufolino says
Correct Soda.
The only effective solution is deportation.
Everything else is treating symptoms, not the cause.
Without deportations Europe, the patient, will become more and more sick, leading eventually to death.
James Lincoln says
Yes, Rufolino.
Mass deportations are the best answer.
Everything else is likely “window dressing”…
pug says
The Dutch government is on the verge of collapse at did moment. Busy negotiations to glue it together. It seems that one of the cabinet members has said “anti-Semitism in Moroccans is in the genes”. upon which the state secretary of finance – she was born Moroccan, 2 passports – resigned and called on her fellow NCS cabinet members to do the same.
pug says
So far so good. The Dutch cabinet survived this “crisis”.
soda says
If it does collapse Wilders PVV is in a very strong position with the most votes/seats…it could make him the next PM but he’ll probably still be forced to create a coaltion. It’s probably best to keep things as they are and push for harsh punishments for migrants and Muslims, unless the other parties make it impossible for him to get his mandate through.
Given his popularity and Trump’s win…it seems people are waking up to the threat of Islam. I believe the West is finally moving in the right direction. I think it’ll only accelerate, assuming the forces of evil themselves get more aggressive…so this showdown between the West and Islam will become more plain and obvious to others.
The best solution will be removing Islam from the West peacefully, deportations for most of them is a must…second best option is WW3…otherwise doing nothing means Islam wins and genocides millions of us…think Sudan, Somalia…etc wherever Muslims become more powerful and numerous. Obviously that’d be a nightmare and hell on Earth for non-Muslims and we need to do everything we can to avoid that scenario.
Pug says
The Dutch government is on the verge of collapse at did moment. Busy negotiations to glue it together. It seems that one of the cabinet members said “anti-Semitism in Moroccans is in the genes”. upon which the state secretary of finance – she was born Moroccan, 2 passports – resigned and called on her fellow NCS cabinet members to do the same.
Leonidas says
Islam ( submission)will collapse ,like USSR in 1989,if we DENOUNCE PSEUDO PROPHET MUHAMMAD,who according to his biography( Sira) and traditions( Hadith) was a pedophile( wife Aisha was 9 yo), rapist, murderer, bandit (keeping20% of the booty for himself),liar and sex-slave trader and also LIBERATE THE MUSLIM WOMEN from barbaric Sharia Law.The Koran states women are dumb, less intelligent than men,wives must be beaten for disobedience by their hudbands ,all women will go to hell unless in the last day their husband says he was pleased with her and all women must hide their curves and wear burkas ,so that men will not be aroused to rape them.Islam is a misogynistic ,violent , imperialist political ideology of Arab male supremacy ISLAMOFASCISM(~70%), DISGUISED AS A RELIGION(~ 30%) that strives through violent Jihad and soft cultural Jihad of immigration ( dawa)to subjugate the World.Jihadists are promised, if killed battling infidels-kafirs,) they will go to Paradise to enjoy 72 virgins ,taking along 70 of their relatives regardless of their sins!Withdraw from UN MIGRANT COMPACT ,that falsely claims immigration is a Human Right expecting Western countries to accept and provide for an endless number of muslim illegal immigrants ,thus islamizing them. Muslim “refugees “should stay in Turkey or vast rich Saudi Arabia ,until they can return to their countries.We must denounce islamic Sharia (=way)law of blasphemer,apostate ,homosexual , adulterer and hypocrite executions,misogyny,honor killings by stoning,hand amputations for theft,child brides,girls exclusion from schools,halal meat from tortured animals,clitorectomies,circumcisions,subjugation and segregation of women,burkas and Sharia banning of short skirts,bikinis,dancing,singing,painting ,sculptures of people,dogs,pork,alcohol and beauty contests .Demand gender equality for ALL muslim women.Punish severely those that kill apostates from Islam,blasphemers,adulterers or muslim hypocrites.Islam is incompatible with our freedom of speech, gender equality, values,way of life, Human Rights,
40 rounds says
It’s ok to hate. God hates unrighteousness and the perfect example of that is islam
somehistory says
“There are six things Jehovah does hate; seven things are detestable to His Soul.” (Proverbs 6)
40 rounds says
Yep
Keys says
Wilder’s “hate” is merciful justice!
gravenimage says
Netherlands: Wilders wants to deport Muslim migrants for Amsterdam pogrom, his foes decry his ‘hate’
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So now opposing mobs hunting down Jews in the streets and beating them is “hate”? Madness. I hope Geert Wilders stands tough.
skeptiker says
Was kann ich als Normalbürger gegen diese gewalttätigen Faschisten tun ? Körperlich bin ich nicht in der Lage, einen Angriff abzuwehren. Ich habe auch keine Ausbildung in Selbstverteidigung, kein Training um Messerattacken abzuwehren. Also, stelle ich mir die Frage, wenn der Staat mit seinem Gewaltmonopol nicht für meine und der anderen Bürger Sicherheit sorgen kann oder nicht in der Lage ist, islamistische, fremdenfeindliche Gewalt zu unterbinden, unsere Gesetze durchzusetzen und jede Form von religiös motivierter Intoleranz, Hass und Gewalt zu unterbinden …Was kann ich tun ?
Patrick says
“What you are doing is just stirring things up, dividing this country when this country needs politicians who bring people together, who bring solutions closer,” Timmermans said. So I guess his compromise is JEW hunting only 3.5 days a week.
Troybeam says
Geert Wilders has been for years telling the people of his nation they are making a mistake in protecting the Muslims, they have yet to hear even with evidence right before their eyes,
Jason says
Need mass deportation of Islamics from Europe now. Get rid of every last one of these animals.
Alex Lund says
We should not deport only those who commit violent acts, but a few more to teach them a lesson.
Remember:
After the terror attack in Paris one assassin hit in Bruxelles Molenbeek for six months. He was seen by many other muslims – and nobody told the police! When a non-muslim saw him and he was arrested the muslims were asked why they didnt report him they answered that he had killed infidels and no muslim, so it was ok with them.
So, instead of just deporting the bad apples we should deport a few thousand additionally to hammer it home that either they control their muslim brothers (however we dont care) are many more are expelled.
A.T. Hall says
Civilian Israelis and Jews in general need to take lessons from the IDF and Mossad. If you travel anywhere in the world where you MIGHT expect trouble, either don’t travel or be prepared to break bones of the opposition. If you build a reputation of people who should not be messed with, anti-Semitism will shrivel to anti-Semites growling in the safety of their homes or basements.
gravenimage says
The idea that you shold not be allowed to travel unless you ca singlehandedly best most of rampaging Muslims is pretty questionable. I’m not sure that bowing to this savagery unless you are superhuman is the solution.
Nick says
You have no foes here Mr Wilders. Quite the opposite. I hope you tune in from time to time on Robert’s website.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I don’t pretend to understand Dutch politics, so can someone from that country here explain that to me:
⮞ Wilder’s PVV is a part of this government, and its largest part. What prevents them from threatening the prime minister to bring down this government if it refuses to take the law & order situation seriously?
⮞ From what I understand, Wilders is the Home Minister – responsible for law & order in the country. So it should be within his powers to do what he has been demanding. If he is not, and if he’s just the leader of the largest party, that takes us back to the earlier point above – pull his support from the government and force new elections based on this issue – whether the Dutch population at large wants to see the muslim thugs gone, or simply acquiesce in the persecution of Jews
It would be useful to see where the Dutch population at large stands
Anonymous says
Geert is a very good patriot. I hope he gets full majority in next Dutch elections and impose rules to eradicate anti-Semitism and deport all the illegals and Islamists.