The Qur’an forbids Muslims to kill other Muslims (4:92), but the Islamic State jihadis consider Sufis to be hypocrites or apostates, and thus believe that they can lawfully be killed in jihad operations.
“ISIS claims responsibility for deadly attack on Sufi shrine in Afghanistan,” by Qaseem Azizi, Amu.tv, November 25, 2024 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The Islamic State’s Khorasan branch has claimed responsibility for Thursday night’s deadly attack on a Sufi shrine in the Nahrin district of Baghlan Province, Afghanistan. The assault at the Sayed Padshah shrine killed 10 worshipers who were engaged in zikr, a form of devotional prayer.
Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid said two individuals have been arrested in connection with the attack.
“The Taliban are pursuing this case to identify and bring the perpetrators to justice,” he said. “All efforts are underway.”…
Since the Taliban regained power in 2021, this marks the fifth major attack targeting Sufi shrines and lodges in Afghanistan. Previous incidents have occurred in Kabul, Kunduz, and Balkh Provinces….
SC says
So basically protection under Allah’s rules only applies when you need them to protect you. Otherwise feel free kill anyone who doesnt go to your mosque. How long before “you are the wrong type of moslem” kicks off between the Sunni’s and Shia’s
As stated many times “THERE IS NO COLLATERAL DAMAGE WHEN FIGHTING ISLAM”. Based on the amount of humanity they demonstrate they clearly do not even qualify as human.
LSWCHP says
Sunni and Shia have been slaughtering since the dawn of Islam.
Troybeam says
Yes and neither one has done a good job of wiping each other out.
JustJim says
Exactly!👍
Transmaster says
Sufi’s last stand is in India. Sufi devotional music is beautiful.
https://youtu.be/uqPqgT4wIE4?si=wwvHstKMObH1UYTm
࿗Infidel࿘ says
No, it’s not. It sounds like somebody sitting on a 🚽 w/ an agonizing experience
And no, sufism is the dominant sub-sect in the -stans, as well as Turkey. In fact, I’d imagine that most Turkic muslims are sufis
Transmaster says
Sufism has almost been wiped out in Turkey. All that is left is the Rumi Dervishes and they are more a tourist attraction than anything else. As for their music you don’t understand their meter and tone structure. In the West we have tones and semitones, in Sufi, and Indian tradition music they have 4 or more semitones between notes. As for meter I have real trouble counting it. 12/8 time is one of the common traditional meters and I just cannot get this in my head.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I guess our music tastes differ
I won’t argue about Turkey, but historically, Sufism flourished in Turkish empires. In fact, it’s the sub-sect of islam most popular in the Turkic -stans – Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan. I would have added Turkmenistan as well, except that they until recently worshiped the cult of Niyazov, and now follow goodness knows what
Poetcomic 1 says
The only authentic Zhikr I attended was Nakshbandi in Cairo 50 years ago. The flute & drum were absolutely hypnotic, the participants in a circle bowing at the waist in unison and chanting as the leader would cry out couplets from the founding saint not in ‘book order’ but rather one couplet often would suggest another couplet from another poem. The authentic Sufi spirit is an enemy of fundamentalist Islam. I had even met Albanians in Michigan who were of Bekhtashi descent who swore to me that their ancestors were secret Christians.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I knew that shi’a were a persecuted group in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I had no idea that sufis were as well. Most conquerors who ruled Afghanistan – from Tamerlane to his descendants were Sufi, Looking up Wiki, seems that the Taliban does persecute them due to their association w/ music (never mind how ugly & horrible it sounds)
Poetcomic 1 says
I was friends with a well known Iranian Sufi Sheikh in 1975 in Kermanshah Iran. A friend also in contact with Mir Tahir said he was murdered soon after the Islamic takeover and many Sufis were killed.
Gurek says
Why does the neighbouring Iran allow Shia and Sufi persecution to take place in Afghanistan? Maybe it’s because Iran is more like Sunni than Shia. I believe Khomeini was influenced by Sayyid Qutb who was a Sunni Islamist.
gravenimage says
Iran is more concerned with threatening to “wipe Israel off the map” than to protect Shia Muslims abroad.
Then, most Sufis are Sunni–even it this is not regarded as orthodox Sunni Islam. Iran itself persecutes Sufis.
gravenimage says
Afghanistan: Islamic State murders 10 Sufis during prayers at Sufi shrine for being the wrong kind of Muslim
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This is what the “peace of Islam” looks like…
Mike says
What is the main difference between Wahabis and Salafis? I have heard that all Salafis are basically Wahabis, but not vice-versa. Is it some kind of doctrinal difference?
They do seem very similar though, if not identical.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Wahabis are one of the sub-groups that follow the Hanbali school of islamic jurisprudence. It’s based exclusively in the Arabian peninsula and is dominant in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The ruling Hanafa dynasty in Bahrein is Wahabi as well, but since the majority of Bahreinis are shi’a, that country isn’t a strict Islamic country, or else there would be a clash b/w Jafari and Hanbali laws
Salafis are something I’ve only heard of in the context of North African muslims, particularly in the Mahgreb
LSWCHP says
Muslims killing Muslims. Same as it ever was.
I’m struggling to find the downside in this.
OLD GUY says
Islam’s answer to everything is VIOLENCE.
James Lincoln says
Ditto for Democrats, OLD GUY.
JustJim says
Too many sub groups to count, much less to define and differentiate from. In my humble opinion, if they demand their women wear a burka, they are extremist, and a free society has no use for such domination.