Ibrahim Karagul, the editor of Yeni Safak, the Turkish newspaper that is the mouthpiece of the AKP, President Erdogan’s party, in March 2020 wrote a column about all the fantastic changes that he thought our giddy globe would soon undergo. East would become West, and West become East, and the powerful become powerless, and the powerless become powerful, and so on and so idiotically forth. He never tells us what exactly he has in mind, so we can only offer wild surmises. My surmise is that he is an idiot, signifying nothing. But it also seems clear that he reflected the current thinking of the Turkish regime. See if you agree with me.
It seems that everything produced and imposed to the world by the West in the form of a global discourse and order is coming to an end. The West has already lost its ‘central’ power. The standards of value may change radically. Crazy ideologies may emerge. The notion of power could be redefined. West’s financial system, political system, security theories collapsed. New political orders will be established. New superpowers will emerge. The West’s financial system is collapsing. Its political system and discourse are collapsing. Its security theories are collapsing. Its social theories are collapsing. Humanity no longer has any expectation of them.
Centuries-old history has ended. History has turned over a new leaf. A new world is being established. As a matter of fact, this is nothing like the post-world war periods. It looks like a much more solid, much more radical change.
How has the West “already lost its ‘central’ power”? Again, what in god’s name does this mean?
“Crazy ideologies may emerge” – yes, there is one that comes swimmingly to mind, one that appeared 1,400 years ago, and is still going strong. But I don’t think Karagul had that one in mind. What “standards of value may change radically? If only he would give us a solitary example of those “standards of value.” It’s impossible to make out what he means – if, indeed, he means anything.
He claims that the “West’s financial system, political system, security theories [have] collapsed.” He wrote this column just after there had been, in early March, a dramatic fall in stock markets around the world, attributable to panic over the effects of the coronavirus. And there were predictions of economic disaster. But then, over the course of two weeks, the stock market recovered much of the ground it had lost. Would Karagul still claim that “the West’s financial system [had] collapsed”?
New political orders will be established. New economic models will be developed. New lines of businesses, new consumption habits will begin. New political movements, new live models will develop. New superpowers will emerge. New discourses and models will develop with respect to the management of resources, markets and masses…”
Word-besotted Mr. Karagul continues with his hollow vaporings.There is nothing to accept or reject because no one can possibly extract a meaning from these remarks. If there is going to be something “new,” it will come from such places where the technological advances are being made. And those are in the United States, in Silicon Valley and Route 128, and in Israel, the Start-up Nation, and in the advanced states of Western Europe. But nothing “new” of value has come from such Muslim nations as Turkey. For Islam discourages the habit of questioning, of skepticism that undergirds the enterprise of science; it instead encourages submission to authority, above all to religious authority. What “new economic models” or “new political orders” will be established in the future? Is present-day Turkey perhaps what this loyal lapdog of Erdogan has in mind? But there’s nothing “new” about Turkey under Erdogan. It’s a standard-issue authoritarian regime, akin to what Mussolini had in Italy, or Admiral Horthy in Hungary.
After geographical discoveries, this is the first time, ever since the start of colonialism that the world is undergoing such a power shift, power void, power consumption. Countries may change places. Nations may change places. Massive population movements are likely. Countries with weak power domains, weak state coordination may collapse.
What “power shift, power void, power consumption” are those? Can he describe any of them? Couldn’t he have given his readers just a tiny hint of what he mean by a “power shift”? A “power void”? “Power consumption”? How is the ludicrous statement “nations may change places” different from the equally ludicrous “countries may change places”? And what does it mean to “change places”? Does it mean the last shall be first? Is Turkey now among the last, since he predicts that it will in the future be among the first (“a superpower”)?
The West may become the East and the East may become the West. The North may transform into the South and the South into the North. The nations controlling the world may collapse while new ones may take to the stage. The perceptions of state and homeland may change. Political language and forms of political organization may change.”
Here is the editor of one of Turkey’s leading newspapers. He must, at some point, have impressed someone. Or more likely, he was chosen for his job because of his blind loyalty to Erdogan. To judge by the evidence of this column, he is quite remarkable in his ability to compose paragraph after paragraph of utter nonsense. As in the paragraph just above: “The West may become the East and the East may become the West.” What is the East? Is it China? India? The Muslim world? Africa? All or some or none of the above? Is the West America and Europe? How is it, exactly, once we’ve been set straight – and we’re all ears, Ibrahim Karagul – as to which is East and which is West, that they will change places? What would “changing places” mean? Would the rich and powerful countries become poor and weak? How will this happen? There is no way to make sense of the senseless.
When I began to read Karagul’s column, I assumed that there would at some point be a morsel of meaning in it that would eventually become apparent. But there never was. There is no there there. Nothing will come of this nothing. No deposit, no return. The words, phrases, paragraphs full of nonsense flow into each other, each paragraph emptier than the one before, but Ibrahim Karagul is convinced he has said something of great moment. No sane person could possibly agree, with the exception of — if they are to be counted sane — the supporters of Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
It’s a piece of perfect idiocy.
Siddi Nasrani says
Your Quote, “It’s a piece of perfect idiocy”.
I could not agree more, after living amongst the Muslim people for 15 Years in Morocco,
I find what they read is absolute rubbish, so “rubbish in, rubbish out”
So there is your answer.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
While I don’t completely dismiss his prediction of Turkey becoming a superpower, I do think that his statement about “West becoming East and East becoming West” is nonsense w/ respect to his country. It’s true if one wants to say that Russia has become free market and socially conservative, while Western countries have become a blend of Corporatist and Communist, w/ hedonistic values tossed in. But it’s definitely horsemanure if he’s implying that Christian countries will become muslim while muslim countries become Christian
Walter Sieruk says
Tayyip Erdoğan’s daydream of a restored Otterman empire as a world Islamic power, might just that a daydream ,as in a fanstey, On the other hand, with the aid of man other Muslim intelluists in the Republic of Turkey along those the imams who have much influence Erdoğan’s scheme for such a future powerful empire might become a reality.
Therefore, with this in mind its fitting give some Bible based information with authorized Islamic literature also taken into account and yet not to go into detail and that state that this is a theory of Bible prophecy and not a complete prophecy fact. This is what might happen. This awful and terrible conflict in the twenty -first century is part of the war between the Judo- Christian West and the Islamic East. The Mahdi will arise in the Middle East he will appear a wonderful man to many people, in reality he will be wicked man and will be so very deceitful and lying to he will seem, very much, like a good righteous and rightly guided man who will make a short and false “peace” in the Middle East. The Mahdi with have a partner who will be the false “jesus” of Islam. This Islamic ”jesus” will give Christian’s a choice , which is convert to Islam or die by beheading, this is the Koranic way to killing non-Muslims, as in 47:4. Those vicious murders of Christians in the future are predicted in the Bible. As seen in Revelation 20:4.
Furthermore in Israel the Mahdi “shall divide the land” Daniel 11:39. [K.J.V.] between the Jews and Muslims and the Mahdi will also by many deceiving lying signs and wonders, will unify Shi ‘ite and Sunni Islam together common goal destroying the State of Israel ,once and for all. The Mahdi will then take the all the military force of Islam with Satanic intention of totally destroying the Jewish State, one and for all. The when the Second Coming of real Jesus will occur .This is at the Battle of Armageddon where the final and complete defeat of the Mahdi, along with false ”jesus,” and his Islamic military forces. After the great Victory there will be then the total destruction of Islam. As found in the Bible in, for example, Ezekiel chapter 37 and 38. Zechariah Chapter 12 and then 14:9-21 well as in Revelation 19:11-21.
There is an Christian Arab pastor ,Michael Youssef who had written two well researched and informative books about the Islamic messiah called the Mahdi the are END TIMES AND THE SECRET OF THE MAHDI also the book entitled JESUS , JIHAD AND PEACE Furthermore, another Christian author on the topic of the Mahdi and prophecy is other than pastor Youssef is Joel Richardson who wrote THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST :THE SHOCKING TRUTH ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE BEAST and the other book entitled THE MIDEAST BEAST : THE SCRIPTURAL CASE FOR THE ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST.
gravenimage says
Erdogan Mouthpiece in Turkey: ‘The West May Become the East and the East May Become the West’
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Erdogan just wants to bring back the Ottoman Empire–and Ibrahim Karagul just looks more plausibly civilized than does the dictator himself,
Mick says
Pax Romana >> Britannica >> Americana
>> Quattuor Equites >>> Armageddon
memi says
Ibrahim, Islamofascist Erdogan’s mouthpiece believes the West May Become the East? Well, it’s already becoming as the neo-Ottoman Turks are the No. 1 human traffickers of faux-“refugees” in Europe and the jihadist “migrants” are already threatening the so-called “values” of the West and imposing Sharia Law in the very heart of Europe.
Turkey’s hybrid war in European countries finds an apathetic blinded Brussels to the consequences and now we have Housing and Healthcare shortages and living wages way down.
But in Bavaria they’re building and using luxury hotels to house migrants on the dole.
Yes, the West is becoming the East. the mouthpiece of Sultant Erdogan is right–with complicity by the EU bureaucrats and finance their own social suicide!