That phrase “Two-State Solution” is used unthinkingly by a great many people, who think that by calling something, no matter how unlikely it may be, a “solution,” then that is what we must accept it as being. Anthony Pamm wishes to disabuse us of any faith we might have in the “two-state solution,” not by ridiculing it, but by systematically setting out the minimum conditions that would have to be fulfilled for such an outcome to succeed. More on his detailed proposals can be found here, in an article he wrote several weeks ago: “The Palestinian war plan and the two-state peace delusion – opinion,” by Anthony Pamm, Jerusalem Post, May 14, 2024:
…The calls now being made for an immediate permanent ceasefire in Gaza and an externally imposed two-state solution will, without radical changes, just perpetuate the cycle of violence and not lead to a lasting peace.In this scenario, and unless facts on the ground are changed radically, what will happen is that Hamas will remain in control in Gaza and continue to plan, and build up capacity, to attack Israel, while the donors rebuild Gaza and feed its population who will continue (as will Palestinians elsewhere as well) to be indoctrinated to hate Israel and Jews everywhere. The Palestinian populations will continue to expand beyond the absorptive capacities of the areas in which they reside on a support base of external donor funding and not on their own earning capacity alone; and Iran will continue to support and build up proxy military forces surrounding Israel and its own atomic bomb capabilities.
Serious disabilities that Palestinian populations suffer in Arab countries will probably persist and not be remedied.Excluding from this discussion the necessary things that Israel will also have to do, the only things (in combination) that could make a two-state (or perhaps a cantonment) solution viable and permanent peace possible are the following:
- (1) The complete eradication of Hamas as a military and governing force in Gaza
- (2) An internal (as opposed to imposed from the outside) change of heart and direction in Palestinian society in terms of which they recognize that the century-old war strategy has not worked and should be abandoned in all of its dimensions and aspects (including in their education systems)
- (3) The substitution by the Palestinians of passive peaceful resistance and protest (Gandhi style) for terrorist action
- (4) Not having more arms-bearing forces within Palestinian territories than are needed for normal civil policing activities
- (5) The Palestinians disassociating themselves completely from Iran and its machinations
- (6) The matter of aid to the Palestinians being reassessed and redirected so that:
(i) Palestinian society is steered toward standing on its own feet and not being dependent on aid
(ii) Aid donors and their agents do not passively or actively foster trends and tendencies that negate human rights and encourage warfare
(iii) Aid is not unconditional, and a return in the form of behavioral adjustment is demanded for aid to continue
(iv) Aid does not enable population explosions that increase populations beyond the capacities of the applicable territories and economies
(v) Aid does not enable the continuation of the discrimination that some Palestinian populations suffer in some Arab countries.
- (7) International action must be taken against Iran to stop its meddling in Israeli-Palestinian affairs and its ongoing mission to destroy Israel. This action should deal effectively with the nuclear threat that Iran is posing.
- (8) Dropping the demand for all of those classified as “Palestinian refugees” to be allowed to enter and settle in the State of Israel. Any so-called “right of return” for Palestinians should be limited to those Palestinians who actually lived within pre-1967 Green Line Israel and will swear to peaceful future intent.
- (9) Hezbollah must withdraw (voluntarily or under compulsion) to north of the Litani River in Lebanon as a UN resolution requires it to do.
This is an excellent, and exhaustive, list of what must be done if a “two-state solution” is to have any chance of success. Some of those requirements follow: a sea change in the attitudes of the Palestinians toward Israel; a change in the definition of “Palestinian refugees” to include only those people now alive who were actually living in pre-1967 Israel; an end to the Palestinian culture of permanent dependence on outside donors; an insistence that aid will be conditioned on Palestinian behavior, and will be reduced or ended entirely if violence against Israelis continues. And there is much more — read the entire article.
Can the brainwashed Palestinians, now convulsed in antisemitic hate, meet these requirements for a “Palestinian state” to be accepted? Can the international donor community enforce its demands if the Palestinians do not exhibit a behavioral change? Can the outside world demilitarize this new state and make it stick? Can the outside world manage to persuade the Palestinians to break their ties with Iran? Can the world bring Iran to heel, so that it does not continue to be the main instigator of violence by the Palestinian terror groups, and does not manage to acquire nuclear weapons?
It’s a tall order. But at least those who keep calling for a “two-state solution” have been properly warned of what, at a minimum, it will entail.
Walter Sieruk says
Even that leftist US President t Franklin D. Roosevelt with all liberal socialist ideology still had more common sense and understanding than Joe Biden ,with comrades of the Red/Green alliance, for Biden is still striving to obtain that folly of an idea of a “two state solution.” Which in reality is no solution but a recipe for disaster. The reason why this is so is because a “Palestine state” that would be, no doubt, controlled by wicked jihad-minded Muslims with all their Islamic intolerance would only be a set up for a catastrophe in the Middle East.
As President Roosevelt, had so very wisely declared, “No compromise can end that conflict. There never has been—there never can be—successful compromise between good and evil. Only total victory can reward the champions of tolerance, and decency, and freedom, and faith.”
Walter Sieruk says
Concerning the idea of what some call “the two state solution.” This subject was explained in a rather clear way in the newspaper entitled The Epoch Times April 3-9, 2024, A-14. Which informs its reader that ”Before October 7th 2023 there was a de facto three-state solution , given that Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza were all separate states ruled by their own governments, two of which were illegitimate without scheduled elections.
It was not Israel, but the people of Gaza and the West Bank who institutionalized the “river to the sea” agenda of destroying its neighbor.
Israel would have been content to live next to an autonomous Arab Gaza and West Bank that did not seek to destroy Israel in their own ‘one –state solution.’ “
Walter Sieruk says
Hamas had proven not only the its words but ,more terrible murderous actions, starting on October 7th, that it wants to completely destroy the State of Israel and even commit genocide worldwide on the Jewish people. That Hamas jihad attack and continued further Islam terror/murder attacks reveals the terrible folly and total lack of wisdom in the every idea of a two-state solution.
Therefore, that so called “two state solution” is not really a valid idea and not a genuine solution. It will definitely not stop this awful Israeli –Muslim land conflict.
Thus, a “two state solution” is out of the question. .This is because a “two state solution” not really a “solution” but an Islamic ploy of deception , a smokescreen and hoax and a fraud.
To put all this in another way , October7th with those Hamas Islamic terror murderous jihadist attacks into Israel from Gaza exposes that even the idea of some people of dividing Jerusalem as well as other parts of the State of Israel between the Jewish people of the Muslim/ Arabs is nothing but folly. To engage the madness of such “talks” is a hoax and a farce .This is because in the so called “negotiations” between the heads of the Jewish nation of Israel and the leaders of the “Palestinians” the Muslim /Arabs the “Palestinian” leaders will speak the truth only when in happens to fit their agenda. The rest of the time the will be speaking half-truths and outright lies. For their goal is to obtain all of the land of the State of Israel. Even in it takes much time and it means getting the land piece by piece. Therefore, those “peace talks” are a hoax.
For the “Palestinian” leaders are employing what is the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya . Which is the Islamic dogma that lying and deception are good things to do as long as it’s done for the cause of the advancement of Islam. This insidious scheme is part of the stealth jihad . Such sly and something subtle strategy of disingenuous speech, lying deception of achieving the goal of all the land of Israel a war ploy that will be a disaster if the heads of the State of Israel are foolish enough to agree to divide the land of Israel with Muslim /Arabs ,the “Palestinians.” For if such a “peace dialogue” results in a divided land, the outcome will literally be murder. For “Palestinian” leader will allow the jihadists use that land as a base to launch murderous rocket attacks in to Israel. As for example, Hamas of Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
Such false hopes for peace which are based on the foundation of lies are nothing new when it comes to Israel. For example, the Bible in Psalm 55:20, 21. Reads “Such men do violence to those at peace with them and break their promised word; their speech is smoother the butter but their thoughts are of war.” [N.E.B.]
Joshua Mbunanza says
Sadat is one mind not to be messed up with.
He said Two States Solution and Two States Solution it shall be. Mess with this and you are messing with the very existence of the statecof Israel!
Just saying BTW…
Walter Sieruk says
To any Christians reading this post, the folly and foolishness of the hoax of the idea of ”a two- state solution for peace”
Such a fool proposal of a “two-solution” would be immediately be by Jesus, Who taught, “If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.” Mark 3:24. [N.E.B.]
Les says
There is already a two-state solution carved out of the British mandate. Check out (Trans)Jordan.
Dave says
That is exactly correct! Why Israel refuses to acknowledge and promote this is beyond comprehension. ZOA has presented these facts several times but also fails to clearly declare JORDAN is the “palestinian” state. Same with the author of this article and Robert Spenser.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Precisely! The exact number of states is actually irrelevant to them: what they really want is zero non-muslim states in the region
One reason why Israel’s support to Azerbaijan against Armenia is so asinine
rick says
Very simple. For most non Israeli Palestinian citizens to cross the Jordan and enter Arab Palestine now called Jordan where there is already a majority Palestinian population. DOn’t let the Hashemite control of the Jordanian government fool you. This is Arab Palestine just as Israel is Jewish Palestine. WHat has the last 100 years taught us? That there can never be a “peace” between Jew and Palestinians. Jews were targeted for slaughter well before Israel was re-established in 1948. The slaughter and removal of all Jews from Hebron in 1929 is a perfect case in point. Based on a false claim, which we can call The false claim by the Palestinians that Jews were planning the destruction of the al Aska Mosque, Palestinians went house to house in Hebron torturing and murdering Jews including the cutting off of limbs as advised in the koran. The Jews were “evacuated” from Hebron by the British Mandate authorities, never to return until Liberation in the 1967 Six Day War. Hebron is the home of the Jewish Patriarchs and the second most Holy city in Judaism after Jerusalem. But it didn’t matter to Palestinians., And did anything change after 1948? No. The only time Jews felt safe was after a decisive war won by Israel. When one population is so full of Hate for another and proves it by continuing an over 100 years of warfare and terrorism against the other, if you do not assume that the two cannot live together you are a fool.
Rick Gordon says
Pamm’s article is excellent – as are several of the prior comments. Those ‘pushing’ a 2-state solution often know nothing about the culture and history of the area. Given the current indoctrination the Palestinians’ living in Gaza and the ‘West Bank’ are not interested – as they have been taught to eliminate Israel. Numerous attempts to resolve the conflict have been rejected by the Palestinians. Jordan is the best answer.
somehistory says
islam would have to be totally eliminated for there to be any *solution.*
gravenimage says
What It Would Take For a So-Called ‘Two-State Solution’ to Work
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Good piece from Hugb Fitzgerald and Anthony Pamm.
I have to admit that I thought the “two-state soution” sounded like a great idea when I first heard of it–in 1977, when I was 17 years old and well-meaning but sadly naive.
This was long before I realized that any such “solution” would be treated by Muslims as a stepping stone to the destruction of Israel. Very few ‘Palestnians” actually want to build a rational state that would be a good nighbor to Israel. If they wanted to do this, Hamas already would have done so.
James Lincoln says
gravenimage says,
“Very few ‘Palestnians” actually want to build a rational state that would be a good nighbor to Israel. If they wanted to do this, Hamas already would have done so.”
Perfectly stated, my compliments.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I believe one necessary & sufficient condition would be that Palestinians do one of two things:
➤ Apostatize from islam and switch to either Judaism or Christianity. Those who do so can continue to remain in Judea and Samaria. Chances are that they would not be taught hatred of Jews if they convert
➤ Those who want to remain muslims just cross the Jordan River and move to Jordan. Or settle in any other country – Qatar, Yemen, Somalia….
Do these 2, and one won’t need Anthony Pemm’s 9-point TL:DR resolution above
Gamaliel says
A two state solution will not work because there are already four Palestinian states and that hasn’t worked. See https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/11/the_four_state_solution.html