Interesting discussion, & interesting guy: happy to hear a Jewish perspective on this which ain’t the usual denial of islamic Judeophobia. One thing that Aron Friedman missed, while pointing out that the Talmud and the Gospel are incompatible w/ each other is one salient fact about islam (as is w/ communism & other Leftist beliefs): logic is incompatible w/ islam. It’s not only the reason why one sees so much of projection both in islam & among muslims, but also why there are so many contradictory laws all over the place
Also, on the “Jesus being a muslim” argument while discussing Muhammad raping Safiya (sp?), it’s worth pointing out to him and Jesus and “Isa” are 2 completely different characters. I saw David Wood argue that Isa was probably how the muslims interpreted Esau, and that Jesus was someone totally different. At any rate, the muslim “Jesus” didn’t die on the cross but substituted someone else in his place, and he’s supposed to return at the end of times to wipe out Christianity. Which though begs the question: since Muhammad did such a fine job the first time, why would allah hire Jesus to do it the second time? If I gave my car to a car repair garage and they did a bang-up job on it (presumably for a reasonable price), why would I not go back to them a second time?
My only request to Aron: please don’t describe Muhammad as “consummating the marriage” w/ Aisha: he simply raped her. Consummation is a consensual act, but in this story, Abu Baqr initially balked at turning over Aisha to Muhammad, but only did so b’cos he didn’t have a choice: who’d have wanted to be assassinated by Muhammad’s goons and meet the same fate as Abu Afaq or Kinaina of Khaybar?
His final take – stop bombing the Middle East: I’m fine w/ that, except that the muslims there won’t leave Israel alone. As for don’t let them into your country, I fear that as far as Europe goes, that ship has sailed, or that horse has bolted, or whatever other cliche one wants to use
Walter Sieruksays
The title of this video does mention Chrislam. Therefore regarding that subject is should be known that
the reading of both the Bible and Qur ‘an together some churches unity interfaith service is a reflection of the new unbiblical ,heretical ,monstrosity affront as well as in outright abomination of a movement called “Crislam.”
For in spite of all the pious words found in the Quran about “greatly respecting and honoring Jesus” The is an clever and demonically insidious way of making Islam “ sound good” To the person who doesn’t know much about the doctrines of the Bible and likewise doesn’t know how actual teaching of Islam, Chrislam might sound like a “good idea.” The reality is that many of Islam’s teachings are in such strong contradiction the doctrines found in Bible. For there are many unmovable doctrines which are in contrast between Christianity and Islam. Yet in the ways of sly deception some of the Islamic teachings fit in the Bible, for example, the “virgin birth of Jesus” this is that way to make Islam seem Bible based . The fact of reality is that most what Muslims believe is in a strong contrast to what Christians believe. The few Biblical truths in Islam only make the Quran a religious book of half-truths. For example a “half- truth is really a lie. Likewise as a part truth is falsehood .That Islam teaches the virgin birth is Jesus only makes Islam more deceptive because in that specific aspect Islam sounds Biblical ,godly, yet Islam’s teaching in many important way are outstanding unbiblical . So this “Chrislam” of the mixing of Bible based truth and the Qurans false doctrines is like mixing spring water with cyanide and hoping that drinking it will have good results.
Therefore the so called “Christians” who embrace an accept Chrislam , they fit in with prophesy in the Bible found in First Timothy 4:1. This informs the reader that “Now the Spirit expressly says that in that latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.” [N.K.J.V.]
It also should be explained that the way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15. Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew 1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14:6.
Islam and Chrislam are demonic falsehood.
TIJERANDYsays
On Chrislam: Can a Jew be a NAZI and Vice versa? Do the ignorant ‘Christians’ believe Islam will stop murdering Jews – and all Infidels- if they just bend over, stretch their necks and kiss the great bloody ass of Islam? Are they so ignorant of the History of Islam? The fact is: there will NEVER BE PEACE in the World as long as Islam exists. Jihad is eternal, until the World bows down to Allah. Islam is the ‘existential threat’ to Civilization, Worldwide.
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࿗Infidel࿘ says
Interesting discussion, & interesting guy: happy to hear a Jewish perspective on this which ain’t the usual denial of islamic Judeophobia. One thing that Aron Friedman missed, while pointing out that the Talmud and the Gospel are incompatible w/ each other is one salient fact about islam (as is w/ communism & other Leftist beliefs): logic is incompatible w/ islam. It’s not only the reason why one sees so much of projection both in islam & among muslims, but also why there are so many contradictory laws all over the place
Also, on the “Jesus being a muslim” argument while discussing Muhammad raping Safiya (sp?), it’s worth pointing out to him and Jesus and “Isa” are 2 completely different characters. I saw David Wood argue that Isa was probably how the muslims interpreted Esau, and that Jesus was someone totally different. At any rate, the muslim “Jesus” didn’t die on the cross but substituted someone else in his place, and he’s supposed to return at the end of times to wipe out Christianity. Which though begs the question: since Muhammad did such a fine job the first time, why would allah hire Jesus to do it the second time? If I gave my car to a car repair garage and they did a bang-up job on it (presumably for a reasonable price), why would I not go back to them a second time?
My only request to Aron: please don’t describe Muhammad as “consummating the marriage” w/ Aisha: he simply raped her. Consummation is a consensual act, but in this story, Abu Baqr initially balked at turning over Aisha to Muhammad, but only did so b’cos he didn’t have a choice: who’d have wanted to be assassinated by Muhammad’s goons and meet the same fate as Abu Afaq or Kinaina of Khaybar?
His final take – stop bombing the Middle East: I’m fine w/ that, except that the muslims there won’t leave Israel alone. As for don’t let them into your country, I fear that as far as Europe goes, that ship has sailed, or that horse has bolted, or whatever other cliche one wants to use
Walter Sieruk says
The title of this video does mention Chrislam. Therefore regarding that subject is should be known that
the reading of both the Bible and Qur ‘an together some churches unity interfaith service is a reflection of the new unbiblical ,heretical ,monstrosity affront as well as in outright abomination of a movement called “Crislam.”
For in spite of all the pious words found in the Quran about “greatly respecting and honoring Jesus” The is an clever and demonically insidious way of making Islam “ sound good” To the person who doesn’t know much about the doctrines of the Bible and likewise doesn’t know how actual teaching of Islam, Chrislam might sound like a “good idea.” The reality is that many of Islam’s teachings are in such strong contradiction the doctrines found in Bible. For there are many unmovable doctrines which are in contrast between Christianity and Islam. Yet in the ways of sly deception some of the Islamic teachings fit in the Bible, for example, the “virgin birth of Jesus” this is that way to make Islam seem Bible based . The fact of reality is that most what Muslims believe is in a strong contrast to what Christians believe. The few Biblical truths in Islam only make the Quran a religious book of half-truths. For example a “half- truth is really a lie. Likewise as a part truth is falsehood .That Islam teaches the virgin birth is Jesus only makes Islam more deceptive because in that specific aspect Islam sounds Biblical ,godly, yet Islam’s teaching in many important way are outstanding unbiblical . So this “Chrislam” of the mixing of Bible based truth and the Qurans false doctrines is like mixing spring water with cyanide and hoping that drinking it will have good results.
Therefore the so called “Christians” who embrace an accept Chrislam , they fit in with prophesy in the Bible found in First Timothy 4:1. This informs the reader that “Now the Spirit expressly says that in that latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons.” [N.K.J.V.]
It also should be explained that the way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15. Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew 1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14:6.
Islam and Chrislam are demonic falsehood.
TIJERANDY says
On Chrislam: Can a Jew be a NAZI and Vice versa? Do the ignorant ‘Christians’ believe Islam will stop murdering Jews – and all Infidels- if they just bend over, stretch their necks and kiss the great bloody ass of Islam? Are they so ignorant of the History of Islam? The fact is: there will NEVER BE PEACE in the World as long as Islam exists. Jihad is eternal, until the World bows down to Allah. Islam is the ‘existential threat’ to Civilization, Worldwide.