Will this meeting prevent jihadis from murdering even one Christian, or burning down even one church? No. In fact, it will inhibit discussion of Muslim persecution of Christians. Few Christians in the West say anything about that persecution, and those who do generally ignore the root causes of that persecution. They don’t want to harm the “Muslim-Christian dialogue” in which they place so much hope, and which has not saved one single Christian from being murdered.
Robert McManus, Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester, Massachusetts, said it on February 8, 2013 as he was suppressing a planned talk (by me) at a Catholic conference on that persecution: “Talk about extreme, militant Islamists and the atrocities that they have perpetrated globally might undercut the positive achievements that we Catholics have attained in our inter-religious dialogue with devout Muslims.”
Remember that Mohamed Atta, about the plane he had hijacked on September 11, 2001, told passengers over the intercom: “Stay quiet and you’ll be OK.” The Catholic Church appears to have adopted that statement as its policy regarding Muslim persecution of Christians.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Pope to preside over interfaith meeting in Indonesian mosque during longest, most challenging trip,” by Nicole Winfield and Niniek Karmini, Associated Press, July 6, 2024:
Pope Francis will preside over an interfaith meeting in a mosque in the world’s largest predominantly Muslim country during a four-nation Asian visit in September that will be the longest and most complicated foreign trip of his pontificate.
The Vatican on Friday released the itinerary for Francis’ 2nd to 13th September trip to Indonesia, East Timor, Papua New Guinea and Singapore….
In Jakarta, he’ll preside over an interfaith meeting at the capital’s Istiqlal Mosque, expected to be attended by leaders of the six religions in Indonesia that are officially recognized and protected: Islam, Protestant, Catholic, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism.
Francis is also expected to walk through a tunnel, called the “Tunnel of Friendship,” connecting the grand mosque to the neo-Gothic Our Lady of The Assumption Cathedral, which was constructed by Indonesian authorities in 2020.
As a result, the first leg of Francis’ four-nation trip is likely to heavily emphasise inter-religious harmony and tolerance, a theme he has hammered home on many of his foreign visits, especially to the Gulf and other Muslim majority nations….
Patriot64 says
As a cradle Catholic I’m sorry to say that I don’t trust this POPE.
Robb says
You and the majority are starting to see the evil that lurks within.
SC says
Not much chance of another Crusade while this pope is still about. I wonder just what Islam promised and to whom to get all of the cardinals on their side. The Holy Roman Church really does seem to have lost its direction and commitment under its current batch of geriatrics. Can they hang Cardinals for treason.
somehistory says
This guy is a false prophet. Giving in to, and encouraging the “wild beast” to grow and consume more and more of the lives and freedoms of the world’s population is evil; and as one who pretends to know and speak for Christ, he’s “doing the desires of (his) father, satan the devil.”
As Jesus said to the Pharisees, “You are from your father the devil and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began; the father of the lie…and the Truth is not in him.”
The Apostle Paul wrote to Christians, “Do not be sharing with demons” and “do not be sitting at the table of demons.”
And the “protestant” leaders are doing the same as the pope….leading their flocks to slaughter.
The “church” there with its “tunnel,” has been given over to the mozlums.
The “return” of the Son of God cannot come soon enough for those of us looking for it; but when He does return, He will set matters straight.
Thomas Hulting says
Where do you suppose that Pope Frank will spend his eternity?
Thomas Hulting says
AMEN
somehistory says
thank you, Thomas.
the pope will be sent wherever God and His Son determine is the “reward” he has worked to attain. And it isn’t looking very good for him at this point
Rufolino says
The Pope is a misguided fool. What is the place to which God sends fools ?
I have often been much worse than a fool, so where will I be sent ?
James Lincoln says
Rufolino says,
“The Pope is a misguided fool.”
Yes, but I’d go further than that:
Judging by his words and actions, the current Pope is actually evil.
somehistory says
Where God “sends” anyone is up to Him and Jesus Christ.
There are only two options: Jesus tells us those two in Matthew 25.
Jesus is the One doing the Judging as to which destination each one deserves.
And if a person believes in Jesus, these verses should be of interest. They may/may not interest others who have another belief.
somehistory says
And…the pope has proven “by his fruits” that he is rotten because his “fruits are rotten.”
And God and His Son will “send” him where they determine he belongs. They are the Judges
Patriot64 says
This POPE is a Socialist
Tony Rice says
Any such discussion should take place in the VATICAN. Any other place will be seen as kow towing to Islam, who Muslims will no doubt seize on it as submission to Islam. This Pope is a LIABILITY, but give him more opportunity to hug an Imam.
GianCarlo MATTA says
this pope is a scoundrel, a traitor, a coward .
FYI says
“Is the pope a Catholic”?
Well it seems this one isn’t…
i admire Trad Catholics for holding on to their faith.
It must be like being on a liferaft with Archbishop Vigano and francis is trying to damage the liferaft with a scissors
I believe the eccelestiastical free masonry has reached the top of the church to:the “smoke of satan” club
James Lincoln says
This is the same “woke Pope” who had excommunicated Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò – for telling the TRUTH!
40 rounds says
There is no such thing as interfaith. Not everyone can be right so what is the point of a so called Christian meeting with a Muslim. One is an apostate and the other isn’t, although some conceivably see that the Pope is an apostate
Wendy says
The Pope isn’t Christian. He despises Christian. This Pope also removed from his title the Vicar of Christ.
SKA says
I wonder if Bergoglio realizes that if his Muslim hosts ever trick him into uttering the shahada they will consider him as a ‘convert.’ May need to circumcise him.
Goofy says
God is spirit, love and truth, the creator of all!
Allah is physical as he created himself, he is filled with hatred, and he is the greatest of deceivers!! He is also the greatest of creators, not the only one. Remember that Isa as a child shaped pigeons of clay and blew life into them?
Jesus Christ died for our sins that we may become righteous in him before God, but Islam doesn’t recognise that as in Islam there is only one righteousness and that is self-righteousness!
God created us in His image and gave us a free will, including the freedom to believe in him or not.
Allah preordained everything, good and evil (insofar as good and evil can be defined in Islam at all). Logically the only evil in Islam is to act against Allah’s preordained will which nobody knows!
God made us his children, and he desires that we shall always stay together as family. That imagery is found already in the Old Testament.
Allah has no children but he has slaves. As a slave owner he doesn’t associate with his slaves, but those slaves who please him he will make eternal slaveowners themselves so they can enjoy eternity enjoying their sex slaves in physical “pleasure” with big breasted huris and little boys!
It appears to me that those who do not belong in the kingdom of God as we read in the Bible have the characteristics of the lifestyle you find in Allah’s paradise!
Mr Pope, are you going to discuss the above point which clearly define Christianity and Islam or are you going to sweep these unpleasant facts under Islam’s flying carpet to talk about Islam’s Abrahamic religion nonsense?
If you claim that there is a genealogical link between Ishmael and Muhammad you make the messenger of Allah a liar as he claimed that his parents were pagan and burning in hell!