“The freedom to follow any religion is a cornerstone of our society. The notion that I would want to ‘stop Islam’ is not only wrong; it is against everything I stand for.”
That’s swell, Mr. Carter, and from my contact with Nigel Farage, I’m quite sure he agrees. But please bear with me a moment and consider a purely hypothetical question. What if the religion in question doesn’t itself believe in the freedom to follow any religion. Should Britain, or any Western country, welcome in large numbers of immigrants who hold to a faith that is radically intolerant, aggressive, supremacist, expansionist, and violent?
I know, such a prospect is inconceivable, because such a religion doesn’t exist. Sure, Mr. Carter. Sure.
“Glastonbury candidate disavows anti-Islam chalk messages,” by Laura Linham, Glastonbury Nub News, June 11, 2024:
Tom Carter, the Reform UK candidate for Glastonbury, has categorically distanced himself from controversial chalk messages appearing on pavements in Glastonbury.
Messages chalked on the pavements urged people to vote for Reform UK, voicing support for the party’s leader, Nigel Farage, and the local candidate, Tom Carter.
But one message urged people to “stop Islam, vote Reform UK.” prompting backlash and concern within the local community.
In response, Carter issued a firm rejection of the sentiments expressed in the message, and said that his is committed to an inclusive vision for the UK, underpinned by respect for all religious beliefs.
“My dream for this country is to find what we have in common, regardless of age, race, or religion, instead of magnifying our differences or searching for reasons to be offended,” Carter explained. “The freedom to follow any religion is a cornerstone of our society. The notion that I would want to ‘stop Islam’ is not only wrong; it is against everything I stand for.”…
abu taleb says
Does he stand for pedophilia, wife beating, robbing and murdering non muslims too?
If he still has some brain left, he should first study Islam to understand why so many crime committed by muslims and why some people want to stop Islam. But seems he doesn;t have any brain left after being in political world just like most politicians.
Ian Senior says
Reform is a bit naive if they think Islam is tolerant of other faiths. In Muslim majority countries Christians are persecuted harassed and murdered. In Britain we have had British citizens murdered and our women raped on mass. Our food animals are being slaughtered while conscious and sensible to pain which is barbaric and offends the sensibilities of British people. To add insult to injury we are being compulsory fed Halal Meat in schools, hospitals and prisons.
Europe is Christian and Britain has had Christian Kings and Queens for one thousand years or more.
Followers of Islam are able to follow their faith in a Muslim country. Not arrive in Europe and Britain to begin transforming Europe and Britain into an Islamic Caliphate.
We don’t need or want Islam.
I need a political party which is made of made of sterner stuff; one which will defend our Christian Lands, British Culture, British Values and the British way of life. Those who reject our beliefs and values need to leave Britain and resettle in a country suitable for their needs. Never surrender.
John Walters says
Well said!
somehistory says
He’s a non-thinker.
If one person is all for ‘freedom’…and which has to include freedom to think things even if others do not agree…and their neighbor does not agree with the freedom to think, or other freedoms, there will be a clash at some point.
And he spoke of taking offense…”searching for reasons to be offended”…which is exactly what mozlums do. In fact, they don’t need to search because other people are breathing without being mozlum, and that breathing offends them.
If mozlums want to be mozlum, that’s their choice; but they don’t have the right to make others choose the same course in life, *or else.*
mozlums don’t want to allow anyone to have any “freedoms,” even to think This pol needs to *think* about that.
tim gallagher says
The islamic invasion of all our western countries is the biggest problem by far in my opinion and the greatest danger to civilised living, so, if Farage’s mob don’t get that, unlike Wilders, Le Pen and others, and the Hungarians and Poles, then I’d say that they are pretty bloody useless. If they are blind to that reality, then they have very little to contribute.
Mick says
NF is right to focus on numbers, rather than religions and sithole origins of the invaders.
To say what he thinks of Azeem Rafiq or the Fulani herdsmen, would derail the debate and endanger his family.
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the comment, Mick. You are probably right. NF seem to be better than the other useless parties there in the UK.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
He doesn’t need to talk about Fulani herdsmen or whatever’s going on in India. But to ignore the islamic aspect of this immigration is pretty asinine. He does need to wake up to the fact that it’s almost exclusively muslims who have created the climate of terror in Britain, and tackle that head-on. Aside from that, if he wants to ban legal immigration of Poles, Indians, South Africans, et al, that’s up to him & his party
gravenimage says
Not sure that lying about Islam being benignant is actually a good move. We need *more* honesty re Islam, not less.
James Lincoln says
Evidently, Tom Carter likes what’s happening to the UK in regards to muslim migration.
That is all that you need to know about him.
somehistory says
And when some mozlum disagrees with something he says in public, and he’s taken down and out like that MP of some time back, outside his home, by a mozlum…he won’t have the strength to change his mind.
Wellington says
Tolerance of intolerance to the extent that tolerance is ended (and which is exactly what Islam will do every time it gets the chance) is not what the foundation of freedom, true and enlightened freedom, is built upon. That so many non-Muslims in the West (e.g., Tom Carter) still don’t get this is maximally disturbing and then some.
The best of what mankind has developed, such as free societies, must be prepared to combat enemies of this. That the West in general has let down its guard in this respect is so evident that only a fool or a liar will aver otherwise. Such as this turkey, Tom Carter.
Might as well, you mental moral midget, argue for tolerance of Nazism since it is the successor, but in secular form, to Islam. My God, we abound with idiots in this idiotic age, now don’t we?
Freedom cannot survive without common sense, moral intelligence, due diligence and proper knowledge. Presently in the West we are lacking all four of these in huge quantities. Not lookin’ good. Not at all.
Mike says
“For all the tolerance we’ve been having, we have become tolerant to the intolerant. We need to start becoming intolersnt to those who are intolerant to us.” (Geert Wilders)
CalvinsLutheran says
Mr Carter is no doubt a person that the elite subterranean councils of Eurabia are given permission to vote for, any other choices that are incongenial to the ideas of those who are imposing DHIMMITUDE to the West will NOT be tolerated. Notice in the wild, animals that flee are automatically counted as prey. Predatory animals know that animals that are not easy prey do not taste good anyway. More delicious animals are not fighters. Predators, prey or scavengers. Islam=predators, Christians with our insuperable Judeo-Christian induced civilizational prosperity and subsequent wealth-marinated muscles=prey, those countries that pose as fighters yet attempt to stay on the sidelines to collect the remains AFTER the Great Cataclysm(Africa, South America, Australia and the ICJ, ICC,UN et al)=scavengers.The Cathedrals of Europe, as the defunct telephone number message says, “are no longer in service. The Choices for the Woke West: Fighting fiercely up to and hopefully not including Scorched Earth for the preservation of the West or being thrown into the flames of Jihad (voluntarily or involuntarily) after quietly conceding to such a fate for our children. No need to worry Our God of The West NEVER allows the casting of innocent babes into the fire without His wrathful intervention.If our God answers not our attempts at peace does that mean to CAPITULATE or pray that our God blesses our Great Pushback that seems to be our ONLY REMAINING OPTION? Guilt if any should be incurred in war at all should be ignored if The Great Pushback is for our children. Or is there some cognitive dissonance out here that believes that we should negotiate with The Devil as long as he will tolerate us. Insert Schadenfreude:”Moohoo hoo hoo haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
࿗Infidel࿘ says
That’s what I’ve been telling people here about Reform and Nigel Farage. Don’t get taken in by his Trump support, his CPAC appearances and so on. This is the truth about him & his party, which is why they will be no different from Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May or Cameron
Simply go w/ Britain First and Paul Golding. That’s the only party unafraid of being called “racists”, although I doubt that canard has any traction anymore
gravenimage says
Infidel, Farage used to be fairly Islamo-savvy–then I think he got scared and decided that willful ignorance was the way to go instead…
This is worse–and far less honest–than just being clueless to begin with.
Brian K says
There is a Proverb that say’s “Wise council is wasted on the ears of a fool”. In todays language it might go something like “You can’t educate an idiot”
Richard James says
Maybe you should read Reform’s contract, yes contract, not a manifesto. They are the only party who will do anything about Muslims and immigrants. Just what the UK needs, we want our country back
gravenimage says
The Reform UK contract refers vaguely to a “small boats crisis”–as though this were the only threat from Islam. Not sure I’d count on something phrased in such a weasely manner to save Britain.
https://www.reformparty.uk/our-contract-with-you
jerry glenn says
Sancta simplicitas.
John Pepple says
If you are afraid of being killed if you convert away from a religion, then you don’t have freedom of religion. Large numbers of Muslims think it’s permissible to kill an apostate. This isn’t a matter of having the state do the killing; they think that they themselves are allowed to do it. Muslims should never have been allowed into the West. They showed their true colors with the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and at that point those calling for his death should have been deported. Unfortunately, not only were they not deported, but infinitely many more Muslims have been allowed in since then.
gravenimage says
+1
John Walters says
Islam is incompatible with Wester Democratic beliefs and institutions. Make no mistake. Unless the Muslims are rounded up and deported back from whence they came Europe is lost. The reasons for the Crusades are just as relevant today. Islamic expansionism into the West is a foundational belief of Islam. The welcoming of Islamic hordes is national and cultural suicide.
B Perth says
As you’ve said many times Robert, staggering dhimmi UK is FINISHED. Reform UK isn’t going to change anything.
gravenimage says
UK: Candidate for Farage’s Reform UK disavows ‘Stop Islam’ chalk message, ‘it is against everything I stand for’
“My dream for this country is to find what we have in common, regardless of age, race, or religion, instead of magnifying our differences or searching for reasons to be offended,” Carter explained. “The freedom to follow any religion is a cornerstone of our society. The notion that I would want to ‘stop Islam’ is not only wrong; it is against everything I stand for.”…
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And while Tom Carter desperately searches for for things we have in common–being homo sapiens, perhaps, or having to ingest food–pious Muslims will continue to try and destroy the UK, and every other part of Dar-al-Harb.
Apparently this is fine not just with Tom Crter, but the formerly realtively Islamo-savvy Nigel Farage.