In the Qur’an, a mysterious figure, known as Khidr in Islamic tradition, kills a boy in an apparently random and gratuitous attack. He then explains: “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.” (18:80-81)
And according to Islamic law, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Reliance of the Traveller o1.1-2).
Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.”
“Parents in custody after finding dead 15-year-old on the banks of the Rhine,” translated from “Eltern in Untersuchungshaft nach Fund von toter 15-Jähriger am Rheinufer,” by Constantin Weeg, Welt, June 18, 2024 (thanks to Medforth):
The body of a 15-year-old Afghan girl was discovered on the banks of the Rhine near Worms. According to investigators, there is a suspicion that her parents were involved in the crime because they did not like their daughter’s lifestyle. A court ordered her to be remanded in custody.
On Monday evening, the body of a young girl was discovered on the banks of the Rhine near Worms. Investigators fear that the 15-year-old was the victim of a crime. According to this, the parents could have been involved in the killing of their daughter. The crime is said to have taken place on the banks of the Rhine on Saturday evening.
The Mainz District Court has now ordered the parents to be remanded in custody on suspicion of manslaughter. “There is a suspicion that the accused decided to kill their daughter because they did not agree with her lifestyle,” Mainz Police Headquarters announced on Tuesday. The 39-year-old father and the 34-year-old mother are being held in different correctional facilities.
Investigators secure traces on the father’s vehicle
On Tuesday, investigators secured traces at the location where the body was found, in the apartments of those involved and on the father’s vehicle. According to police, this was secured in Pirmasens. An autopsy has also been ordered….
somehistory says
“manslaughter”? Whatever happened to charging such scum as murderers in the first degree, a.k.a. premeditated murder?
They obviously planned to murder their daughter. “they *decided* to kill” because they didn’t agree with the child’s “lifestyle.”
*Deciding to kill someone over a disagreement* shows premeditation; thinking about killing, deciding to kill, having an intent to do the murder.
They should both be tried and hung out to dry.
mozlums move from their home countries to places where citizens have much more freedom in how to dress, what to eat, what friends to have and any recreation, besides the kinds of work they do.
But then they expect their children to not notice that other young people are enjoying their lives, making friends in school, dressing differently, having some fun; and when they do notice and want to be the same, the parents…who have no love for their kids…murder the poor kids for the parent’s fake prophet, false god, and book of demon filth.
And to prevent the other mozlums who have also invaded, from looking askance at the parents as they would parents who don’t murder their children.
Hang ’em high should be; but they probably will get a very light sentence, if they get any at all.
Peacelover says
all very well said somehistory
somehistory says
Thank you, Peacelover.
Peacelover says
Always welcome.
James Lincoln says
Yes, somehistory.
In the same country, this would be 1st° murder – and a capital offense.
Tony Rice says
Yeah, but we mustn’t forget the parents were both , at the same time, suffering equally from mental “inballance”, so were not responsible for their actions. After all, what Allah wants and dictates comes first, Reasonable and normal living by children must be subservient to the Will of Allah. Such mental disturbances are experienced by so many Muslims and are the cause of their behaviour, something unites them
Walter Sieruk says
Muslims keep on wearing their Islamic religious blinders and deliberately refuse to take them off and view things in the world of reality .
Meaning their Islamic religious blinder their denial acknowledge and recognize that there in not real honor in the cruel and murderous action that they so very inappropriately called “honor killing:”
Its cold blooded premeditated murder To call callous vicious and deadly Islamic tradition an ‘honor killing.” is just like scraping the warning label “Danger Deadly Poison ” off a jar of ricin and replacing it with another nice sounding refreshing label that reads “Apple Juice.” Just changing the words doesn’t change the deadly contents in thta jar
That ruthless horrendous savage primitive Islamic custom that’s so unfit-tingly called “honor killing” is really an horrible horrific evil , and that’s exactly what it needs to be called.
Walter Sieruk says
This is yet another ,tragic, example of the great contrast between Christianity and Islam.
For if Christian father is disappointed if his daughter has taken on a lifestyle;that isn’t Biblical , he will , at best ,pray for her. ,or at the very worst shun her. Yet he wouldn’t harm her ,much less kill, her , because Jesus gave much value to a person having mercy for other person, Matthew 5:7.
It’s the very opposite with Islam . For if a Muslim father is disappointed if his daughter has taken on a lifestyle that he views as un-Islamic he might murder her.
The difference between Christian values because of Jesus, and Muslim “values” because of Islam are very obvious and outstanding.
Goofy says
The Muslims claim that their god Allah is all merciful, but what does the Qur’an say about forgiveness?
Virtually nothing, because there is no forgiveness in Islam, as Islam is based on self-righteousness rather than redemption.
We Christians pray that God will forgive our sins and that we may forgive those who sin against us.
Jesus teaches us that the one who has been forgiven much will love him much!
We know that we are sinners and that the only righteousness we can attain is the righteousness in the blood of Jesus Christ
The Muslims know of no such redemption in spite of the fact that their unholy Scriptures mention that the despicable Jews and Christians will pay for their sins. This is just one of the innumerable inconsistencies in Islam.
The only references to Allah’s mercy I know of concern situations like this: You shouldn’t use your sex slaves for economic gain, but if you do it anyhow, rest assured that Allah is all merciful! That is reassuring isn’t it?
Which form of righteousness do you put your trust in?
Walter Sieruk says
Yes, you are right. For Jesus is not religion. He is far better than religion, which includes Islam.
The Bible gives its reader very important information about what Jesus did for every person by being the Supreme Ransom for the sinner by taking his or her place on the cross on behalf of that human being.
In other words, Jesus made Himself Absolute Sacrifice for sinners in place of each one of them.
For God the Father gave Jesus, the, John 3:16, for a person who is willing to accept His work, he Total and Complete Atoning Sacrifice, for him or her.
As the Bible informs its reader, “For He made Him who knew no sin for us, to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” Second Corinthians 5:21. [N.K.J.V.]
Uma says
Good Morning,
The same is with SANATANA DHARMA, the Bharatiya culture.
Thanks for sharing knowledge.
Regards?
Uma
Scotsman48 says
In my humble opinion it appears that islamic teachings and those that follow the words and deeds within the one Book they all read and believe it comes from allah are extremely shallow in their faith as they wish to kill somebody like me because I refer to their faith as a Fascist Religious Cult and yet whatever they wish to call my faith is of zero importance to me as I am not inside their heads, so rather than merely shining on what I may say in disagreeing with their beliefs they attack in a violent manner as if their wee allah dude cant take the heat, cant take any criticism of what they believe and that in my mind is very shallow in their faith and beliefs..
They scream they are a religion of peace until somebody disagrees and then they show just how peaceful they really are…
How come the Liberals and Gays in the Western World cant see they are being used as useful idiots.
James Lincoln says
Scotsman48,
The bottom line is that muslims cannot logically defend the teachings of islam as being a benefit to society.
So, they resort to violence – and spread fear.
BOB says
this murder was committed in the same place as Martin Luther started the Protestant reformation; something islam fears. millions are leaving islam because of the internet and cases like this murder BUT STILL our governments in the West are bringing these barbarians here in their hundreds of thousands. We have to protect our way of life. JULY 27 LONDON FREEDOM FESTIVAL. Tommy Robinson plus thousands!
abu taleb says
Some muslims justify the killing of non muslims by saying by ending the life of the non muslims, the punishment in hell will be reduced because the victims have no more sins after being killed. Thus, non muslims must be grateful for being killed by the muslims.
Johanna Jahns says
Also, Allah has given the world only to the believers. You don’t own yourself. You are muslim property.
T.jefferson says
Think of a world without Islam…. ????
Brian k says
If Allah is the God we are all supposed to worship, then I would rather go to Hell. I could not imagine spending eternity with a sewage filth god like that, who seems to be all for killing his own creation, and instilling the same filth into a set lot of people to do it for him. No thanks, I’m well and truly grounded into the one and only true living God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob. Also the only true savior Jesus Christ. Satan is the father of all lies, and not only hates God, but also his creation, so it’s no wonder muslims hate music, fun, joy, and treat woman the way they do in their sexual depravity, because anything God creates for our well being and pleasure, then satan is naturally going to try and destroy, and because Islam is a satanic death cult, then they naturally hate the true God, and also his followers. Filth in, filth out.
Goofy says
The best you can say about Allah is that he is a self-made man!
He is physical, and he created himself out of horses’ sweat! Impressive, and it is proof that horses and their sweat existed before Allah himself. But how could he create himself when he was not himself existing? Is the answer that Allah is simply the best of creators, not the only one?
Isa blew life into his clay birds as a child, how does that make him a lessor creator than Allah?
Allah is not the God of Abraham, who is spirit and truth whilst Allah is the greatest of deceivers!
We should use all occasions we can find to compare and contrast Islam with Christianity and share our findings with others.
The fundamental difference is that in Christianity the sinners are made righteous in their living faith in the redemption offered by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Islam
Is a religion of self-righteousness, of killing to show that you are better than the others!
In Islam self-righteous men take pleasure in execution of women. When a woman caught in adultey was brought before Jesus for his judgement he told the men: The one without sin cast the first stone! They couldn’t, only Jesus himself was without sin, but he wouldn’t, he told her: Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more!
Jesus also said that the one who has been forgiven much will love (him) much!
Where do you find forgiveness in Islam?
Which kind of righteousness do you desire?
Goofy says
The article uses the term “crime” in connection with this honour killing.
That will be deemed to amount to hate speech a bit further down the road of appeasement with the Muslims.
How can their expression of religious freedom be described as a “crime”? That will deemed hurtful and illegal as Shari’a teaches us otherwise.
In religious terms Allah has preordained everything, “good” or “bad”. These labels have no meaning. In fact you can only talk about one sin in Islam, and that is the sin of acting against the preordained will of Allah!
So when a honourable, self-righteous Muslim family decides to abrogate the life of its young wayward daughter, that is Allah’s holy preordained will, and it would be a great sin to obstruct it! Killing is good, to let her live is evil!
If the West doesn’t take legal action against Islam and it’s Qur’an for blasphemy and for incitement to murder, enslavement and other serious crimes, the new antiblashemy laws which are bound to be passed quite soon will be used to outlaw Christianity for its hate of forgiveness!