“I’ve heard from a LOT of reliably anti-Trump people – I mean really, really, anti-Trump people – who have had it with Biden tonight.”
Cultural cringe is strong because it taps into people’s prejudices, but it’s also weak when it comes to policy.
Biden’s people bet that they could slap an arms embargo on Israel and still draw in Never Trumpers. That’s proving to be a bad bet. He forgot that most of these folks disliked Obama’s policies and only backed Biden because he was supposed to be a moderate. Now after Afghanistan, Israel is looking like the last straw for a lot of people who, both Jewish and non-Jewish, had been committed Never Trumpers.
It’s a small sampling but much of it’s coming from some influential Never Trumpers.
Beyond that, a lot of American Jews who didn’t think that Biden vs. Trump had that much of a difference on Israel after Oct 7 have now come to see it in very stark terms. I’ve seen private texts and messages from generally apolitical people (and most people are apolitical) indicating a major shift.
After getting Sen. Schumer, Rep. Nadler and the assorted ‘Rabbis for Hamas’ in the Reform movement on board, Biden’s people thought that they were doing fine. That was a fundamental misreading of the situation.
Two things have happened.
- People who were Never Trumpers (Jewish or not) could lie to themselves that Biden was better on foreign policy. Now that has come apart.
- American Jews who thought that there wasn’t much of a difference between the two parties and didn’t follow the congressional shenanigans have been disabused of it.
This is a gamechanger.
Biden has alienated two parts of his base, American Jews and liberal Republicans and Democrat foreign policy hawks. He’s exposed himself as Obama 2.0. The impact won’t be immediately obvious in the polls, but it will hurt him.
somehistory says
Sometimes, circumstances out of one’s control, make one change the mind, and turn back from previous statements and decisions.
Has anyone seen any reports on the “judge” in NY on the case of Mr. Trump and the ‘porn star’? Something about his “past”?
On a case that has outlived its “statute”…if it was ever a crime, the “judge” must have a “past.”
Is he a “never Trumper”?
࿗Infidel࿘ says
If those never-Trumpers and Jewish Dems simply abstained, or sat out the vote, that alone will be enough to hurt Biden. They needn’t actually vote for Trump
The pro-Israel Trump haters can vote for RFK, while the pro-Hamas Trump haters can vote for Cornel West
Ray Jarman says
It is a shame that it has taken Obumer’s puppet’s treasonous actions against the Jewish State of Israel to bring people to their senses. When he sacrificed thirteen American soldiers (he projected his disdain for the fallen military when he was more concerned about his next ice cream as he was looking at his watch rather than showing respect and empathy during the casket removal from the plane) and many more American/Afghan civilians during his withdrawal from Afghanistan as well as his unlawful actions of not maintaining sanctions on Tehran, these people should have realized the grave mistake that they had made in not denouncing and renouncing the dangling puppet uttering non-sense.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Ironically, it also feeds into the narrative of the anti-Semites on the Right, like Candace or Tucker, who point out that these Trump haters don’t care when the Dems are destroying America, but suddenly do a volte-face when it comes to Israel. Supportive as I am of Israel and Jews, I don’t completely fault those critics on this point. The Trump haters have created the perception that they are happy to be as sociopathic as one can imagine when it comes to the US and team up w/ the most evil forces in the country bent on destroying it. But when those same nihilists turn anti-Semitic, suddenly the straw that broke the camel’s back has been attained. One thing the Tuckers and the Candaces are right about: other countries be it Ukraine or Israel matter more to them than the US. Where I disagree w/ them is that we should be neutral in any conflict involving muslims, although I do agree that Russia-Ukraine is not our fight, and in fact, a culmination of our eastward expansion of NATO, w/o letting Russia in
Honestly, I don’t give a ? who these Trump haters support. They could break for RFK or just sit it out. Virginia is the only state where they have significant numbers in Fairfax county and Alexandria, but the state is totally a 50-50 state. But Trump is winning back all the battleground states, except maybe Pennsylvania
Ray Jarman says
Thanks for the reply, Infidel.
Wellington says
So fitting. Even RINO Never-Trumpers who, quite frankly, I personally look upon as foolish, have had it with Biden. I hope this includes two rather silly but yet unfortunately powerful RINO Never-Trumpers, i.e., Kasich, former Governor of Ohio, and Todd-Whitman, former Governor of New Jersey.
Hope to hear from these two deficient people soon, and who voted for Biden in 2020. Won’t hold my breath however because, sadly, once a RINO almost always a RINO. Though hope springs eternal and so still in full skeptical mode I will nonetheless hold out a sliver of an olive branch here to two people I used to admire, Kasich and Todd-Whitman, but have come to admire no more. May they redeem themselves, for the sake of truth and for the sake of America because Biden and his handlers are presently destroying America and Kasich and Todd-Whitman in their own petty and idiotic way were “complicit” in this way back in 2020.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Honestly, I’d rather see the RINOs, who I distinguish from neoCon Trump haters, join the Dems. The first category includes people like Kasich, Christie Whitman, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Ken Buck & others who are happy to cross ranks & vote w/ the Dems.
The latter category are people like John Bolton, Liz Cheney, Bill Krystal, Mike Pence, et al who are still otherwise conservative, but opposed to Trump policies on trade, military drawdowns worldwide, holding our “allies” accountable and so on
Whereas the former category would be just as comfortable in the Democrat party, the latter is traditionally conservative on other things like abortion or tax cuts or judges, but are at sharp odds w/ the America First crowd on issues like trade, military disengagement from a lot of places in the world, Since their numbers are so low, they default to the Dems, who have been (for now at least) bought off by the military-industrial complex – the Boeings, the Lockheed-Martins, the Raytheons…..
Maybe the neoCons could create a “No-Labels” party and run. I daresay they’d poll lower than the Libertarian Party, the Constitutional Party or the Reform Party. Note sure about the Greens
James Lincoln says
Since the 2020 US Presidential election, I had thought that a “Never Trumper” would NEVER abandon Biden.
But apparently, some have.
Best news that I’ve heard in years.
Walter Sieruk says
Yes, that dastardly despicable villainous rat , Joe Biden, has and did betray Israel. Therefore Biden strives stop the shipment of weapons to Israel, No matter how important and necessary arms are needed in Israel’s self-defense against those vicious and murderous attacks of Hamas and Hezbollah.
This is because that fiendish villain Biden, has ,indeed, totally abandoned Israel , likewise he betrayed her. Biden even has the diabolical gall to attempt to impose sanctions on the Israel Defense Force all the while he’s providing that aggressive Israel and America hating hostile Islamic regime of Iran, which supports Hamas, with billions of dollars and then he wants to send Iran even more money Before this betrayal of the State of Israel and the United States ,Biden allowed that Islamic tyranny that to obtain billons of dollars . How terribly wicked of Biden .For that belligerent ”mullah regime” of Iran calls Israel “The little Satan and the US “The great Satan.”
We may be sure that either in a direct way or an indirect way will use that money to advance its nuclear weapons program and further its stooge terror/murder jihad organizations which are Hamas, Hezbollah , Islamic Jihad
Some Westerners might find in a bit interesting that Ayatollah Khamenei as well as the other ayatollahs and mullahs who have so much terrible power in Iran , don’t ever engage in any shootings and bombings , they just have their useful idiots who are the Muslim terrorists those three horrendous jihad entities to the dirty work of murdering of people for them as their tools.
Some of that vast amount of money Biden those in power in Iran to obtain will , without doubt , also be given in support to further found Hamas and also Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad.
Truly, Joe Biden is a treacherous scoundrel.
Walter Sieruk says
That villain ,Joe Biden is treasonous towards American . Therefore , it should be no surprise that that this treacherous scoundrel has also betrayed America’s good friend the State of Israel.
That disingenuous double-speaking hypocritical lair ,Joe Biden had just the other week said that “America’s support for Israel is iron clad.” Then Biden attempts in impose sanctions against the Israel Defense Force, all the while he strives to have sanctions lifted from that hostile Islamic regime of Iran which even viciously launch deadly missiles and drones into Israel starting on April 14. 2024.
Before those most recent attacks by Iran, that brutal cruel and murderous jihad entity , Hamas, which is funded and supplied with weapons by Iran had invaded the State of Israel on October 7.2023.
At this current time, that villain, Biden, wants sanctions against the much needed IDF. Therefore, it’s no wonder that Benjamin Franklin Netanyahu declared those US sanctions against the IDF an “absurdity” and a “moral low.”
Furthermore, the IDF is very much needed and necessary. Prime Minister Benjamin was not only right, for he also spoke the sensible thing to do when he declared, “No force in the world will stop us from elimination Hamas.”
For Hamas is a dangerous and deadly plague for all Jewish people and the State of Israel and as some people don’t seem to realize that vicious and vile jihad entity also dangerous to America and all the other Western countries.
Furthermore ii also need to be made clear , which is that Hamas hates the Jewish people with a spiteful passion, which also carries over to the same detestable and deadly malice for Christians. As is the saying in the Middle East among jihad-minded Muslims, it’s “First comes Saturday then comes Sunday” Meaning “First kill all the Jews and then kill all the Christians.”
To think about it , the many Muslims propagandists who live in the United States keep telling the Americans as well as other Westerner that “Islam respects Jews and Christians as “People of the Book. “ Those words ,of course, mean the Bible.
In reality ,many Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere engage in severs persecution Christians and Jews Therefore , those words spoken by the Muslim apologists for Islam are disingenuous and empty words.
The persecution of who aren’t officially “People of the book” would be horrendously cruel and murderous. towards Hindus and Buddhists as well as people of other religions who Muslim view a “pagan.”
Prime Minister Benjamin was not only right, for he also spoke the sensible thing to do when he declared, “No force in the world will stop us from elimination Hamas.”
For Hamas is a dangerous and deadly plague for all Jewish people and the State of Israel and as some people don’t seem to realize that vicious and vile jihad entity also dangerous to America and all the other Western countries.
Furthermore, Hamas hates the Jewish people with a spiteful passion, which also carries over to the same detestable and deadly malice for Christians. As is the saying in the Middle East among jihad-minded Muslims, it’s “First comes Saturday then comes Sunday” Meaning “First kill all the Jews and then kill all the Christians.”
To think about it , the many Muslims propagandists who live in the United States keep telling the Americans as well as other Westerner that “Islam respects Jews and Christians as “People of the Book. “ Those words ,of course, mean the Bible.
For ,many Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere engage in severs persecution Christians and Jews Therefore , those words spoken by the Muslim apologists for Islam are disingenuous and empty words.
The persecution of who aren’t officially “People of the book” would be horrendously cruel and murderous. towards Hindus and Buddhists as well as people of other religions who Muslim view a “pagan.”
Prime Minister Benjamin had revealed knowledge and wisdom by his statement about the need to about the very important and necessary need to engage in the “Elimination of Hamas.”
tgusa says
DC is a giant cluster ****. People say obama is pulling the strings while biden just shuffles along reciting lines someone else wrote for him. Obama is really worried his brothers in arms will get offed. Examine what is going on here and pray that the USA never gets in to a war because with democrats involved we could never win. No matter who our opponent is the democrats would have a wing of their loose coalition of opposing groups agitating against it. That would leave them frozen in place like the cardboard cutout in front of the beer display at the local mart. The dems say diversity is their strength but what is happening here proves that is not at all the case. Cultural diversity is great right up until the shtf, life or death, the nations survival comes in to play. The dems have willingly walked in to a trap that they created where there is no escape. Never Trumpers are in a similar situation but for them there is still a chance they can pull out of the dive before they crash in to the ground.
Rick Olsha says
AM ISRAEL CHAI !!!!
OLD GUY says
If you’re Jewish I don’t see how you could vote for a Democrat.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
After the ineptitude and disgraceful indifference demonstrated by Biden and his Keystone Cops in the Afghanistan debacle, I don’t see how anyone could vote for him.
“If you vote for Biden then you ain’t American.”