The Australian authorities don’t dare identify which “violent extremist ideology” is involved, and that is a virtual guarantee that they will not be able to defeat it.
“Seven juveniles with alleged ‘violent extremist ideology’ arrested in Sydney counter-terror raids,” by Mostafa Rachwani, Guardian, April 24, 2024:
Seven juveniles have been arrested as part of extensive counter-terrorism raids across south-western Sydney, with police alleging they adhere to a “religiously motivated violent extremist ideology”.
New South Wales police said 13 search warrants were executed on Wednesday, leading to the arrest of seven “juveniles” including 15, 16 and 17-year-olds. Five others are assisting police with their inquiries.
The arrests come amid the ongoing investigation into the alleged stabbing of bishop Mar Mari Emmanual at the Assyrian Christ the Good Shepherd church in Wakeley last week. A 16-year-old has been charged with a terrorist offence over the alleged attack.
Deputy commissioner Krissy Barrett of the Australian federal police, who were aiding investigations and in the execution of the warrants, said that there was “no evidence” of any planned attack.
She said the arrests come as part of the NSW joint counter-terrorism team’s (JCTT) investigation into the alleged offender and his associates.
“We identified links between the alleged offender and a network of associates and peers who would believe shared a similar violent extremist ideology.
“At this time, we have no evidence of specific locations, times, or targets of a violent act,” she said.
The NSW police deputy commissioner, David Hudson, said that the arrests come amid concerns that “it was likely that an attack might ensue”.
“It was considered that the group, subject of our attention, posed an unacceptable risk to the people of New South Wales, and our current purely investigative strategies could not adequately ensure public safety.”
“Their behaviour, whilst under that surveillance, led us to believe that, if they were to commit any act, we would not be able to prevent that.”
He repeated that police investigations had failed to identify if the group had any specific target, adding that the group was “loose” in nature.
“No specific targets had been nominated. However, it’s just the ongoing threat and loose nature of the group as well. Whilst coordinated to some degree, there were splinter factions doing their own thing as well.”
Hudson said more than 400 members of the joint counter-terrorism team from the state and federal police forces, as well as the NSW crime commission, were part of the action that began at about 11.15am….
Hudson said the group all “come from the same area” when asked if they all attended the same school.
“They’re all obviously from very similar areas in the community. And there’s a crossover on individuals between different groups. But they are all known to each other – some quite closely, some loosely.”…
At a National Press Club address on Wednesday, the Australian federal police commissioner, Reece Kershaw, confirmed the raids were in relation to the alleged attack by a 16-year-old boy at the Assyrian Christ the Good Shepherd church….
somehistory says
The writer/reporter, mostafa, writes “alleged” attack; “alleged stabbing”. More than once, he writes “alleged attack.” The “attack” was not “alleged,” but it actually happened. Video, eye witnesses, and the victim tell us it actually happened.
The word “alleged” applies only to the perp who “allegedly” attacked the preacher. Until he’s convicted.
The fact that a mozlum has been arrested for this “attack,” must choke this reporter, so the “attack” must remain “alleged.”
And the arrest of the others with their “alleged” (his word) connection to an extreme ideology, as in “with police alleging they adhere to a “religiously motivated violent extremist ideology”. must make his choking nearly unbearable.
It’s great that the police found the others who may have incited, encouraged, aided, etc. the attack/stabbing in the church.
tim gallagher says
This “alleged” that reporters on radio and TV use here in Australia has been annoying me, somehistory, so I just googled the reason. Here’s the answer. “It is because media outlets may publish detailed accounts of a crime until an arrest is made or charges are laid. Then, they’re subject to the law of sub judice contempt which means, literally, that a matter is under a judge.” Another post said it is “alleged” because it is yet proven in court. I don’t know whether this is the same in other countries, but here in Australia, apparently, that is the reason. It is annoying when the crime is bloody obvious and witnessed by many people. So the reporters are avoiding a charge of contempt.
somehistory says
Thank you, Tim, for that explanation.
Here in the U.S. the word:”alleged” is only affixed to the suspected perp(s). If the crime has been committed, say a body has been found with stab wounds or bullet holes in their back, the “crime of homicide” is not “alleged” to have occurred, but whomever is arrested/charged is “alleged” to have committed the crime; until they are found guilty by a court…judge or jury trial.
Now, if a person goes missing, and there is evidence of foul play, the LE will not confirm a crime until they gather enough evidence to say for sure.
The reason for saying “alleged” here about the suspect is so the person writing and reporting doesn’t get sued by the suspect.
I just thought this reporter kind of went overboard on the “alleged stabbing”…when video was being held back because it showed a “stabbing.”
PRCS says
Another post said it is “alleged” because it is NOT yet proven in court.
Pretty much here, too, tim. Lawsuitophobia.
tim gallagher says
That’s what it would be, PRCS and somehistory. They would be afraid of losing money through a contempt finding against them. I’m a pretty vague person, so maybe this “alleged” stuff has always been there but i have only really noticed it recently and it has annoyed me because some crimes they are talking about are so obvious and witnessed by many people. I have certainly noticed it a lot lately, but it has probably been there always. i was thinking, maybe there has been some trouble the media got into but which I am not aware of and so the media bosses have told all their reporters to tread carefully. Sounds like it is the same in other countries anyway.
tim gallagher says
That’s what it would be, PRCS and somehistory. They would be afraid of losing money through a contempt finding against them. I’m a pretty vague person, so maybe this “alleged” stuff has always been there but i have only really noticed it recently and it has annoyed me because some crimes they are talking about are so obvious and witnessed by many people. I have certainly noticed it a lot lately, but it has probably been there always. i was thinking, maybe there has been some trouble the media got into but which I am not aware of and so the media bosses have told all their reporters to tread carefully. Sounds like it is the same in other countries anyway.
tim gallagher says
That’s what it would be, PRCS and somehistory. They would be afraid of losing money through a contempt finding against them. I’m a pretty vague person, so maybe this “alleged” stuff has always been there but i have only really noticed it recently and it has annoyed me because some crimes they are talking about are so obvious and witnessed by many people. I have certainly noticed it a lot lately, but it has probably been there always. i was thinking, maybe there has been some trouble the media got into but which I am not aware of and so the media bosses have told all their reporters to tread carefully. Sounds like it is the same in other countries anyway.
Ray Jarman says
Why is the report missing one key element to the story? The fact that all the perps belong to the same despotic cult pretending to be religion seems to be unimportant in the eyes of the press.
Were I the prime minister of Australia, I would change or enact a law immediately and under a Parliamentary government where the constitution is considered living, no post expost facto can be proclaimed and these animals could be affected. If I were an Australian, I would be imploring the government to enact a law forcing the extraction of this type of scum from the nation and that they be dumped into some crap hole, Sudan, Yeman or similar Islamic infested sewage plant with or without the dumping ground’s permission. Since in America, we possess that pesky document called the written Constitution that would require an Amendment, a quick answer to some problems cannot acted upon. While I would never wish to change our system of laws predicated upon the Constitution, there are fleeting moments when I wish we could do otherwise but Australia can and should enact a law to permit the extraction of terrorists from its midst.
Another way to address the problem of Islamism in western nations is the method that Italy in the 1950s into the 1960s used to do. It would entice radical pro-Communist young people to live in the Soviet Union for a period of time which in most cases changed the minds of those who accepted the offer. When people have to endure the results of their agenda, for many it is a wakeup call.
somehistory says
Ray, I believe it’s’ “missing” because the *reporter* is mozlum.
tim gallagher says
Non-Muslim reporters will tend to do the same dishonest thing, somehistory. It annoys me that reporters and commenters here in Australia, but I suspect also everywhere else in the world, almost always say, a terrorist attack or a terrorist incident but don’t say it is a muslim terrorist attack or an islamic terrorist attack. Maybe it is because we all know that it will 99.9% of the time be a muslim terrorist attack because only Muslims carry out these evil crimes, but i think it is very dishonest not to spell it out in the interests of telling the truth.
somehistory says
I agree, Tim. Most reporters here won’t tell if the perp/suspect is mozlum.
And yes, it is dishonest. If a person coming out of a church suddenly went berserk and began shooting people, the news media would say he was Christian, whether or not he was a member of the church or even a believer in Jesus. He could be someone delivering lunch to the pastor, but he would be called a Christian.
islam, evil filth that it is, needs all of the help the pols and reporters can render to make it acceptable to non-mozlums.
Greg says
Never use the Guardian as a source!
tim gallagher says
Definitely true, Greg. That left wing rag is about as reliable as the taxpayer-funded far left ABC. I wouldn’t ever rely on anything either said about any issue.
Greg says
Why are you use the Guardian when it’s a left-wing newspaper that waters down the facts!
James Lincoln says
The Australian authorities describes the attack as “violent extremist ideology”:
Violent: yes.
Extremist: no, devout.
Ideology: islam.
PRCS says
As a regular Fox News viewer, I remain disappointed that so many of its reporters use the same terminology.
I expect such from MSNBC…..
tim gallagher says
I think that it is very dishonest, James, the way they don’t say violent extremist Muslim ideology or islamic ideology. I doubt whether it is fooling many people but it is still gutless and dishonest reporting. Authorities and the media both refuse to name islam and it surely has to be because they want to whitewash stinking islam and, for some reason, to keep giving the evil ideology protection which it certainly does not deserve. THey are refusing to face up to reality but, eventually, they are going to have to do so. Sticking their heads in the sand is not going to work in the long run.
James Lincoln says
Agree, and thank you for your replies PRCS and tim.
40 rounds says
They want right thinking people dead. The UK, Canada, Austria “well, good day mate”(sorry dumb and dumber quote) are total gutless wonders, don’t care a lick about their own people, suck Islam’s ass, and glom onto every hair-brained idea that comes down along the pike from the leftist -communists
MD Anthony says
‘violent extremist ideology’ hhobicpas always been the Koran and has always been Muslims killing non-muslims and even their own.
But to state the obvious gets a person labled Islamopjc and/or prosecuted for a hate crime.
David M says
Ha, the Muslim bodies here are panicking because they know they are under the spotlight & they don’t like it. ‘Don’t link it to Islam” they are saying.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/sydney-terror-charges-a-double-standard-muslim-groups/ar-AA1nGurn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=a91359df65da40e5ae135773e28d15a1&ei=7
David M says
The Muslim community is “traumatised and isolated”, poor babies.
OLD GUY says
Thankfully it wasn’t a Imam who got stabbed that would have been world news and an outrage. It was only a Bishop this time. Islam in action.
Munchenfex says
Violent extremist ideology? That would be orthodox islam would it not?
David M says
Exactly, there is no such thing as “radical;” Islam, there is only one Islam. Luckily most Muslims were just born into it & don’t have a clue/refuse to follow the true teachings of Islam. “Radical” Muslims are the ones actually following it properly.