Wir schaffen das!
“Shouts of ‘Allahu Akbar’ keep coming from the crowd,” translated from “Aus der Menge kommen immer wieder „Allahu Akbar“-Rufe,” by Philipp Woldin, Welt, December 16, 2023 (thanks to Medforth):
Hamburg has so far taken a hard line when it comes to pro-Palestine demonstrations, partly out of fear of riots. Last week a court overturned the strict rules. Several rallies are taking place this weekend – on Friday Islamists hijacked the event.
There is a pre-Christmas hustle and bustle in downtown Hamburg on this Friday evening, taxis are pushing along the busy Mönckebergstrasse towards the train station and a man in a gray coat and a black beard is standing on a podium in front of the local electronics market. He shouts: “We are not anti-Semitic, but on the side of the oppressed!” The crowd chants “Free, free Palastine”, Palestine flags fly, a sign reads: “A child dies in Gaza every ten minutes”.
To the left of the lectern, women stand together in small groups, with men on the other side. Folders with yellow safety vests and white bandages form a kind of ring around the demo, with “Furkan Movement Hamburg” written on their vests. Police officers lean against their vehicles, but initially stay in the background.
In the weeks after the Hamas attack, Hamburg had very strict requirements for demonstrations, unlike cities like Berlin. Since October 16, the police have repeatedly issued so-called general orders that banned all gatherings in support of the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas that were not registered and not confirmed by the assembly authority. Registered demos were also examined very intensively by the police and were subject to strict conditions. A procession organized by the Shura Islamic Association, for example, had to be stopped after a few minutes because unauthorized slogans and posters were used.
The Hamburg administrative court overturned the ban last week – since then, demonstrations have been allowed to take place more widely again. Pro-Palestinian groups, but also Islamists, use this, as will be shown this evening.
Because behind the “Justice for Palestine” demonstration is the “Furkan community”. The Hamburg Office for the Protection of the Constitution classifies the group, which comes from Turkey, as an “Islamist-oriented organization” with the aim of establishing a global caliphate in which Sharia regulations will apply.
The organization operates as an association in the Hanseatic city and has been called “Youth, Education and Social Affairs e.V.” since April 2018. Last year, the Hamburg Office for the Protection of the Constitution said it had 240 supporters. The year before there were 200.
The fact that the organization’s central concern is a return to a so-called “Islamic civilization” does not seem to bother other pro-Palestine groups. Many mobilized for the rally, several hundred people gathered in front of the stage shortly before 7 p.m.
Then the first speaker first reads out some police rules. There should be no calls for acts of violence. It is forbidden to destroy Israeli flags. The crowd should only shout slogans given via megaphones. You can tell: The organizer is apparently very worried about an early cancellation.
“Salam Aleikum and welcome,” the main speaker then greets the demonstrators, after which the Koran is briefly recited. The man later says that countless demonstrations have been stopped in Hamburg in the last few weeks. “Let people represent their concerns in peace.”
The speaker says he is very sad about the situation in the Middle East. “All we see in Gaza is death, death, death. Is this what self-defense looks like?” Criticism of Israel is an absolute taboo subject, he claims, the media reports one-sidedly, and television hardly shows the images of the horror in Gaza.
As the crowd chanted “Free Palestine” again, a passer-by on the other side of the street shouted: “No!” She was quickly surrounded by police, and it was the only disruption to the rally.
In the second part of the rally, the situation in Gaza hardly plays a role. The speaker now gives a long speech on Islam, which is probably a kind of short presentation of the views of the Furkan community. They are striving for an “Islamic society based solely on the values of Islam,” says the speaker. “Islam is our pride.” There are repeated shouts of “Allahu Akbar” from the crowd. The rally officially ends at around 7.45 p.m. and the crowd disperses into Friday evening.
Big Dude says
This is the working of Karma. I am struck by the inevitable decline of western civilization. You killed six million Jews, and you replaced them by those who will kill you and your children. Dear Gd, It is finished.
Westman says
An interesting observation, BD, except the “you” in this idea of Karma is only true if synonymous with the nation of Germany. The actual “you” of current day Germans were not responsible for the sins of the parents though burdened by the world with the guilt.
There is a lesson here, perhaps, in a historical rhyme of what happens when the next generation is taxed with the guilt of the former – reparations for WW1 after 1918 which led to WW2. If there was no Hitler it would have been another leader seeking revenge for the burden of reparations. Though Jews may o4 may not have been murdered under another leader, a world war would still have occurred.
The German offspring, since WW2, have been carrying the guilt of WW2 that has created a weakness to act in the face of aggressive Muslim colonization, and it is further weakened as a ward and protectorate of the US. The recent forcing of Germany to violate its constitution by providing war materials to Ukraine and the destruction of its industry-dependent gas supply should make that relationship clear.
The “Karma” now affecting Germany is a residual of WW2 and if history rhymes, Germany may again be where the first pushback against Islam begins after its relationship with the US sours. This is only a guess. Another historical rhyme could be a second French Revolution.
Hoi Polloi says
Yes, the leftist, “We’ll find a reason to charge you with the sins of those before you as we ignore and excuse the current savagery.” End slavery; beg forgiveness of current free humans and pay more. Enslave still; we’ll excuse and align. Slaughter and burn to the ground; we’ll tell the world you’re justifiably emotional over the crusades. It’s peaceful when they do it but even your silence is violence.
Of course “they want ‘Islamic society based solely on Islam.” Just think of all the raping and desecrating they will be allowed by their own.
somehistory says
True, HP.
A “society”….not a very social/livable one for the infidel…where no child, no woman, is safe. Nor are those who wish to protect the child and the woman.
We’ve seen how that works out for infidels in pakistan, bangladesh, nigeria, and so many other mozlum-ruled…”islam society”…places.
Hoi Polloi says
Nor are the elderly safe. They brutalize elderly native men and women regularly, in so many videos. Because that’s heroism in islam.
somehistory says
Yes, HP. they go for whomever they feel is physically weaker, and that makes the elderly…male and female….frequent targets for beatings and worse.
somehistory says
Very informative comment, Westman.
Yesterday, there was the article about giving the mozlums *notice* to ‘live by our values’ or you don’t belong to Germany.
Some group or people needs to step up with courage and say enough is too much, already.
Hoi Polloi says
Yes, it is a very informative comment and apt response. Agreed.
Alley cat says
A European Islamic caliphate run by Erdoğan in a Neo Ottoman Order . A replacement theology and a replacement EU.
Hudders. says
Sharia & blasphemy laws inbound.
European culture, future & people are in great danger.
History is being repeated.
The armies of allah have begun to march again.
Soon it will be too late.
Bexarkat says
Incredulous that a pro-Hamas movement is growing in Germany and an anti-Hamas movement is growing among Gazans.
FYI says
“An islamic society based solely on islam”
Right.Not a place for intelligent people then.Love,Peace,Tolerance?Well none of that nonsense.
No Art or music or critical thinking.
If you are female you need to wear a bag on your head despite the fact that allah knows LESS about Biology than you do.I mean if you could even figure that out…I WILL laugh at the muslimas..
Note to muslims:You can’t have Israel and not because of the Israelis.
allah of the kaaba is NOT the Biblical God.
That’s why you always lose!
And you are on the wrong side of Biblical Prophecy.
Will you get that?No!
Tony Rice says
What needs to be explained is why the original God Yahweh of the Israelites, who has become the God of Christians, via Jesus, who by the way did not deny Yahweh nor set up a new religion, needs to be morphed into another God ALAH. Are there two Gods , as far as I am aware, Muslims deny the authenticity of Christianity in the process of declaring Jesus was Muslim, so is Yahweh in their opinion, a Muslim, if so, why the need for Allah to come along , thousands of years later. IF the same God, why did Allah decry and reverse much of what Yahweh said, plus if Muslims say they are the true dependants and followers of Moses ( who they say was Muslim ) why the need to change what Yahweh said. The whole thing is a complete mystery unless it is explained away by Allah and the preachings of his prophet, Muhammad being not valid , especially as they differ so widely from what Yahweh said and required. What Allah requires is in such direct opposition to what the Israelies were charged with.
FYI says
I believe “allah” is the one referred to in 2 COR 4:4 as ‘the evil god of this world”.
allah comes from hu baal{the god of the kaaba} who comes from baal:that cult existed at the time of Elijah.I believe islam is connected to the cult of baal via the kaaba.
The warped teachings of the koran violate the entire commandment system given to Moses
The 2 chief commandments,the Exodus 20 rules,the Golden Rule do not and cannot exist in islam because of what the koran teaches.
Hoi Polloi says
Thanks for the baal connection. I read that often.
yurgye says
IF what we are led to believe re the prophet Muhammud is true, which it may well be as I am led to believe, such info is contained in the Koran or the Hadith etc, that the person chosen by Allah who must have already existed before the prophet came along , why did Allah chose someone with the characteristics of Muhammud. Those characteristics included that he, while a man at age 52, fancied a girl of 4. Now need we go further , because I am sure that if a person of that age came to the father of a girl aged 4 and a) said he fancied her and asked for permission to marry her, the father would tell the 52 year old where to and in no uncertain terms. But the father agreed and his daughter was married to the older man, then aged 64. The mind boggles re the scene of such a ceremony taking place, presumably with loads of people attendance, including of course, the parents and family of the 6 yr old girl. And how could she at that age realise what she was being led into. AND Muhammud had sex with Aisha when she was either 8 or 9. . So, my question is, what sort of God is Allah in permitting such a situation, apart from placing extreme question on Muhammud himself, the same must also be levelled at the one who chose him as HIS special representative. . The strictures on women in Islam are dire, hence within Sharia law, a female can be married at the age of 9 altogh w/wide public pressure has increased that higher in Muslim countries, min I think is 13 or 14.. Women in sharia governed countries are second class citizens, now in Afghanistan, women are not allowed to go out of the home unless accompanied by a male or covered from head to toe so as not to be visible , hence in that country, men having not only an interest in boys but relationships as well. I really do wonder re the bona fides of the law giver (s ).
tim gallagher says
Well said, yurgye. Yes, this allah is an evil, degenerate version of what god is supposed to be like, obviously made up by a group of evil, degenerate men, if allah chose such an evil and perverted creature as Muhammad as its prophet. The amazing thing, to me, is that there are over a billion human beings who seem to think that such an evil version of god is acceptable and they accept this allah thing as their god. Any decent human being would refuse to believe in and follow such an evil, degenerate version of god as allah and such an evil prophet as Muhammad. But that’s islam for you. What an evil religion it is.
tim gallagher says
When historians are looking back at the chaos and trouble engulfing all our western societies i believe that they will see that letting the Muslim enemy of all civilised, enlightened values into our societies was the most damaging and the most idiotic police of all time. Letting a bunch of knuckle dragging and intolerant scum of the earth people into civilised societies is staggeringly foolish. Of course, as they say, history is written by the winners so if the Muslims win and take over western societies I suppose the Muslim historians will say that the take over by barbaric islam was a great thing.
Kepha says
Hamas, schafft eure stinkenden Arshclochen aus Deutschland! Raus!