Interesting discussion. While Robert pointed out that the areas Russia has occupied – Donbas, Mariupol, Kherson…. are really Russian, yesterday, someone I was arguing w/ on Breitbart told me that the people of Kuban region – mainly the Rostov & Krasnodar regions – wanted to join Ukraine. I’d be very surprised if that was the case
In Crimea, the people there clearly voted to join Russia: even Pew polls have confirmed that. Not sure about Donetsk, Luhanks, Mariupol, Kherson and Odesa, but it would be interesting. Problem is that if Ukraine loses Odessa, it’ll become a landlocked country like Serbia, so it needs at least that outlet to the Black Sea. But they need to resolve their issues w/ Russia, maybe recognize the independent Donetsk & Luhansk republics, & commit to remaining neutral and never joining either NATO nor the EU. The West – particularly we – can’t keep throwing money into that bottomless pit
ME Infidelsays
What a wonderful money laundering scheme for the benefit of our hack politicians. Much like the fake pandemic, there will be ZERO accountability when all is said and done.
OLD GUYsays
No accountability is why foreign aid is such a popular item with politicians once you hand the money over it just disappears. If our government leaders spend the money improving our lives its accountable and we just might vote that party back into office, so the opposition always is against it. Just think what other country taxes its citizens for the benefit of foreign governments.
billsays
I am very disappointed in Robert S for taking this position. He should stick to fighting jihad and leave international politics alone
James Lincolnsays
it’s all interconnected, bill.
Particularly the interplay between islam and Leftism.
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࿗Infidel࿘ says
Interesting discussion. While Robert pointed out that the areas Russia has occupied – Donbas, Mariupol, Kherson…. are really Russian, yesterday, someone I was arguing w/ on Breitbart told me that the people of Kuban region – mainly the Rostov & Krasnodar regions – wanted to join Ukraine. I’d be very surprised if that was the case
In Crimea, the people there clearly voted to join Russia: even Pew polls have confirmed that. Not sure about Donetsk, Luhanks, Mariupol, Kherson and Odesa, but it would be interesting. Problem is that if Ukraine loses Odessa, it’ll become a landlocked country like Serbia, so it needs at least that outlet to the Black Sea. But they need to resolve their issues w/ Russia, maybe recognize the independent Donetsk & Luhansk republics, & commit to remaining neutral and never joining either NATO nor the EU. The West – particularly we – can’t keep throwing money into that bottomless pit
ME Infidel says
What a wonderful money laundering scheme for the benefit of our hack politicians. Much like the fake pandemic, there will be ZERO accountability when all is said and done.
OLD GUY says
No accountability is why foreign aid is such a popular item with politicians once you hand the money over it just disappears. If our government leaders spend the money improving our lives its accountable and we just might vote that party back into office, so the opposition always is against it. Just think what other country taxes its citizens for the benefit of foreign governments.
bill says
I am very disappointed in Robert S for taking this position. He should stick to fighting jihad and leave international politics alone
James Lincoln says
it’s all interconnected, bill.
Particularly the interplay between islam and Leftism.