Thursday, with the ex-Muslim Rachid Hammami, talking with Islamic apologists Daniel Haqiqatjou and Jake Brancatella. Trying to talk with Haqiqatjou and Brancatella was like trying to explain particle physics to a second grader with a penchant for lying, but it was an illuminating session nevertheless for their open avowal that would maintain people in Islam by force and terror, openly saying they support the murder of apostates. Yet people actually think today that Islam is a viable alternative to leftist cultural madness; if they watch these two in action, that will put a definitive end to that delusion.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
You did TWO HOURS of that? Illuminating as that may be, wouldn’t that time be better spent w/ either David or Apostate Prophet discussing “The eye is the belt-strap of the ?” hadith?
࿗Infidel࿘ says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOYsiN-tgxE
Derek says
I listened to the video carefully. I am shocked at the conviction and brazen lack of any apology with which the case for Islamic extremism has been laid down. Is it not clear that there cannot be any compromise and if the present policies of world democracies continue, we are doomed.
Fitna says
I highly recommend seeing this video, 2 hours won’t feel that long, I’m almost done watching it.
It’s very interesting to see the hardline mindset of these Muslim men. While Christians/Muslims have some ideas in common I’m glad Rashid pointed out how horribly Christians (and other non-Muslims) are treated in an Islamic state, peaceful coexistence with Muslims is impossible.
Though I didn’t hear Robert’s full opinion on stopping Islamification of the US, I disagree with the idea that we need to increase our population to offset theirs.
Maybe he didn’t want to say it but the real solution will be depopulation of Muslims, mostly through deportation, but I think every option must be on the table.
We cannot allow Muslims to become majorities in our countries or they’ll turn them into more Pakistans, Irans, etc.
While I agree with Robert to an extent, with the extremes of Leftism (such as their support for Islam, the carbon tax nonsense and a few of their other loony policies, at the same time it is a Secular state that guarantees the rights of all religions (as well as unbelievers).
Secular Democratic states are the most successful, which is why people clamor to come to western nations. If we lived in a Christian Theocracy, it’d be no different that living in an Islamic country…nobody wants that.
mgoldberg says
There was never a Christian theocracy in the US. It was a Republic and other religions had and have enormous levels of freedom of faith. That John Adams said ‘“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
Derek says
This is indeed an excellent video. However, I do not agree with the suggested solutions. Why do we not see that humanitarian laws and ethics cannot apply to such people. If we continue to treat Islam as just another religion that has to be tolerated, then I am sorry to say – the only option is to pay Jizia or toll tax in humble submission in exchange of permission to be left alive.
Nick says
Leftism is evil. Democracy is bs .
mgoldberg says
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” I am reminded of this quote from President John Adams as I began to watch the video. I only watched a few minutes with the beginning having the muslim ask if it was moral to murder apostates, as per Deuteronomy. At that point the discussion gets all the backflow that muslims love to throw.
I’ll quote frist from the Jewish Virtual Library: “It is of extreme difficulty to determine whether the modes of capital punishment given above, and based on the detailed discussion, mainly in the tractate Sanhedrin, reflect actual practice, or whether they were academic discussions, as, for instance, are the detailed discussions on the sacrifices. Thus the law of the “stubborn and rebellious son” covers five mishnayot (Sanh. 8:1–5) and four folios of the Babylonian Talmud (68b–72a), and it is laid down that he is put to death by stoning and then hanged (ibid., 46a). Yet it is stated that “It never happened and it never will happen” and that the law was given merely “that you may study it and receive reward” (for the pure study; Tosef., Sanh. 11:6; Sanh. 71a), though on the other hand in the talmudic passage R. Jonathan protests “I saw him and sat on his grave.” The same statement is made in the case of the death penalty for communal apostasy (Tosef., Sanh. 14:1) and the same reason given for its study.’
The evidence of the Temple times- the 1100 yrs plus the 400 yrs prior to the Temple times indicates the richness of Law applied created society worthy of continuity, even as all the non monotheistic nations forced their mores and wt upon them.
That mohammed murdered 600-900 innocent Jeiwish men and boys, according to muslim texts at Yathrib, as he took over the town and applied the decree when they refused to state that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet, is evidence enough of the murderousness of the discussion of ‘apostasy’ by modern day muslim adherents. That murders of all others was never the idea nor the practice of Torah Judaism, of Observant Judaism then or now is clearly evidenced by Temple times Jewish History. The idea of a nation being a light unto other nations was G-d’s commandment, not the oppressor and destroyer of all other nations.
I will have to view the rest of the podcast but I rarely hear muslims ever allow any discussion about any of the actual events of muslim history, of Mohammed’s history and that is the meaning of the death penalty for apostaty: don’t tell me anything I don’t want to hear or I’ll be forced to kill you. Uh huh- that is supposed to constitute no compulsion in religion.
mgoldberg says
I posted this several hours ago but it hasn’t appeared…..
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” I am reminded of this quote from President John Adams as I began to watch the video. I only watched a few minutes with the beginning having the muslim ask if it was moral to murder apostates, as per Deuteronomy. At that point the discussion gets all the backflow that muslims love to throw. I’ll quote frist from the Jewish Virtual Library: “It is of extreme difficulty to determine whether the modes of capital punishment given above, and based on the detailed discussion, mainly in the tractate Sanhedrin, reflect actual practice, or whether they were academic discussions, as, for instance, are the detailed discussions on the sacrifices. Thus the law of the “stubborn and rebellious son” covers five mishnayot (Sanh. 8:1–5) and four folios of the Babylonian Talmud (68b–72a), and it is laid down that he is put to death by stoning and then hanged (ibid., 46a). Yet it is stated that “It never happened and it never will happen” and that the law was given merely “that you may study it and receive reward” (for the pure study; Tosef., Sanh. 11:6; Sanh. 71a), though on the other hand in the talmudic passage R. Jonathan protests “I saw him and sat on his grave.” The same statement is made in the case of the death penalty for communal apostasy (Tosef., Sanh. 14:1) and the same reason given for its study.’ The evidence of the Temple times- the 1100 yrs plus the 400 yrs prior to the Temple times indicates the richness of Law applied created society worthy of continuity, even as all the non monotheistic nations forced their mores and wt upon them. That mohammed murdered 600-900 innocent Jeiwish men and boys, according to muslim texts at Yathrib, as he took over the town and applied the decree when they refused to state that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet, is evidence enough of the murderousness of the discussion of ‘apostasy’ by modern day muslim adherents. That murders of all others was never the idea nor the practice of Torah Judaism, of Observant Judaism then or now is clearly evidenced by Temple times Jewish History. The idea of a nation being a light unto other nations was G-d’s commandment, not the oppressor and destroyer of all other nations. I will have to view the rest of the podcast but I rarely hear muslims ever allow any discussion about any of the actual events of muslim history, of Mohammed’s history and that is the meaning of the death penalty for apostaty: don’t tell me anything I don’t want to hear or I’ll be forced to kill you. Uh huh- that is supposed to constitute no compulsion in religion.
Jm says
I am convinced not all Moslems are radicals and jihadists Let’s all pray that the jihaddists kill themselves. They are truly savages filled with hate and blood It seems to me that the Jews in Israel are the only ones winning this war We Christians need to stand behind this organized hate on the Jews and support Israel like the Bible says
Derek says
That is “some” hope !!
I feel there is no hope.
Their strategy is very simple. Hold the world in terror so that all non-believers submit to you. It is working. And we are just wondering what to do in the wake of the Western democracies having given up the fight and the erstwhile communist states (as well as many democracies themselves) evolving strategies on how to use Islamic extremism for their narrow immediate gains. To them Islamic terror is just a parameter that has to be managed and not fought.
Yacob Benjamin says
Jihadists are following real islam . The earliest muslims followed Muhammad and committed jihad