“Kill them wherever you find them” — Qur’an 2:191, 4:89 (cf. 9:5). And while you’re at it, celebrate diversity!
“Trial to begin in Taos kidnapping, terrorism case,” by Olivier Uyttebrouck and Colleen Heild, Albuquerque Journal, September 22, 2023:
Sep. 22—New Mexico became the focus of national attention in 2018 when two men and three women were found living with 11 children in a makeshift compound north of Taos stocked with guns and ammunition, a firing range and a mysterious 100-foot tunnel.
Jury selection will begin Monday in U.S. District Court in Albuquerque, where attorneys from the U.S. Department of Justice counterterrorism section will attempt to show the five traveled to New Mexico from Georgia “to get an army together” and train them “to kill people for Allah.”
A federal criminal complaint charging the five in August 2018 contained allegations of terrorism and kidnapping, motivated by bizarre notions of “jihad,” exorcism and “black magic.”…
Authorities found 11 malnourished children and the remains of a 4-year-old boy in the tunnel. All but the boy’s father are facing federal charges of kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping….
A superseding indictment returned by a federal grand jury in March 2019 in Albuquerque identifies the five defendants as Jany Leveille, 40; Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, 45; Hujrah Wahhaj, 40; Subhanah Wahhaj, 40; and Lucas Morton, 45.
The charges include providing material support to terrorists, conspiracy to murder an officer or employee of the United States and illegal possession of firearms, and several conspiracy charges. Prosecutors on Thursday dropped the illegal firearms possession charge and one of the conspiracy charges….
The federal complaint alleges that Leveille became pregnant in Georgia about the same time that Siraj Ibn Wahhaj’s wife, identified as Jane Doe, also became pregnant….
Once in New Mexico, Leveille had planned “to perform an exorcism on him, to cast the demons from his body, after which he would come to life as Isa,” an Islamic prophet or messiah, the complaint said. Laveille believed Isa then would instruct the others “what corrupt institutions they needed to get rid of,” including military, law enforcement and financial institutions, it said….
In December 2017, the group collected at least 11 firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in Georgia and drove them to a site in Taos County where they “built and maintained a compound” that included a “firing range and tactical training ground.”
Leveille admitted living at the compound from December 2017 to August 2018 with 11 children. During that time, Lucas Morton and Siraj Ibn Wahhaj “trained persons, including my minor children, in firearms use and tactical maneuvers.”…
Fitna says
So much for the myth of the tiny minority of extremists…it seems Islam is full of nothing but extremists, all trying to rape/rob and kill us for their religion.
For me the solution to Islam is obvious…there’s nothing to talk about, Islam is today’s Nazism, we should be fighting them until they’re gone and Islam disappears at least from the West.
The trouble is that so many people, esp. in the ruling class, still have no idea what we’re up against. So expect more deaths, riots, rapes until they finally smarten up, if ever.
Fitna says
Muslims should be given the option to accept freedom, secular-democracy and convert to any other religion they want, or becoming Atheists…or else GTFO.
That’s a far more generous offer than the plans they’re cooking up for us which includes slavery and genocide.
But what’s most needed is for the elites to wake up…as well the as masses and start demanding Islam is banned/removed.
tim gallagher says
Spot on, Fitna. Of course, you could never believe what most Muslims told you about having left islam. Definitely, the elites and the masses of average people need to wake the hell up to islam’s evil nature. It would be great to see islam treated with the deserved contempt that Nazism cops rather than the misplaced respect so many fools give it. islam is no better than Nazism.
Fitna says
Thanks Tim and James.
You do raise a good point…how can we trust that Muslims have actually given up on Islam or are just lying about it.
I’ve heard that based on stats, while Iran’s govt claims their population is entirely Muslim, apparently 60% of them reject Islam.
I’m sure many Muslims would leave Islam but don’t because of the fear of being attacked by fellow Muslims.
So while some might lie about it and remain loyal to Islam, there are still others who would want to leave.
It is a tough nut to crack and I wouldn’t want to put any non-Muslims at risk…still it’d also be unfair to genuine apostates who’d get killed in Islamic countries if we threw them out too.
I think they should be monitored and if they exhibit any signs of loyalty to Islam, then boot them out.
To get to that point though, ofc we need the western states to take action against Muslims in our countries. Yes I wish the populace would clue in that Islam is as much a dangerous, evil fascist ideology as Nazism was and it needs to be defeated.
Unfortunately it might require a lot of death/destruction until people finally wake up…history tends to repeat itself because in general populations are stupid/slow and don’t learn from the past.
tim gallagher says
That would be great, Fitna, if as many as 60% of Iranians actually want to ditch islam. It is, of course, dangerous to try to leave the vile religion since they will kill apostates. Like you, I put islam on the same level as Nazism, both are extremely evil ideologies. Such a shame that islam has been polluting the human race for 1400 years and is still going strong. All that i can say is that I hope the vast majority of non-Muslims do wake up and islam gets hammered and its followers get thrown out of all non-muslim countries. I can’t see it happening for a long time, but hopefully one day it will come to pass. As you write down below Muslims have no trouble with the murderous, evil violence that islam demands. Decent people need to walk out on such an evil religion. islam almost seems as if it was devised by a bunch of serial killers and so, naturally, they made up a god who tells them that it is OK to go and murder people. Sick stuff.
PRCS says
That they can believe what they want is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, but:
1) Muslims–like everyone else–must suffer legal consequences for actions which run afoul of our secular, man-made laws (amputations, beheadings, polygamy, etc.) without special favor
2) the public needs to learn what Islam actually teaches and that it is those teachings which make Islam incompatible with those laws
Too many of our friends and neighbors still do not realize that few Muslim refugees do, or ever will reject the very Islam they claim to be fleeing.
Fitna says
Well said Tim, you are right, priority one should be to hammer Islam and save ourselves first.
Then we can think about letting apostates or people who want to remain in the West to stay, but we’d need a rigorous vetting process.
I think it’s going to be an ugly mess the way it was with Myanmar and Thailand where they military stepped in after countless Islamic terrorists attacks and they forced the Muslims to leave using a very brutal no-nonsense approach.
Most likely that’s probably how it’s going to play out in the West. As one writer I once read said “don’t underestimate the Europeans…they might seem weak, nice and cowardly but they produced Hitler and other conquerors. When Europeans feel their survival is threatened they can become pretty vicious.”
Exactly, Islam is the most evil, sadistic, cruel, monstrous religion ever invented…I do believe Mohammad and his followers were psychopaths and serial killers as you said…clearly they wanted to justify their criminal behavior and disguised it as a religion so people wouldn’t suspect until it was too late.
The sooner this death cult is eradicated off the face of the Earth, the better. The biggest victims of Islam are Muslims themselves. It causes the men to behave barbarically towards each other and ofc to women as well…and then they turn on the rest of us.
Frankly it really bothers me that there is mountains of evidence, tons of video footage of Muslims attacking ordinary people in western countries and still to this day, little has been done to deal with this evil population.
For example Macron knew about criminal Muslims not being deported and repeated being let free…and he only spoke about it when one particularly brutal rape (with a broom) nearly killed a French girl…and still they do nothing. Nobody deserves to be harmed in such a way, but we know this how Muslims act. It (like thousands, maybe millions of other incidents) would’ve never happened if Muslims weren’t in the West.
Why not use emergency powers to declare the migrants/Muslims a terrorist threat and throw them out? There’s many tricks and tools they can use to deal with Muslims, but they act like scared little mice and do nothing, they can easily send the military after them and crush them for the invading enemy they are.
How can the elites be so detached from the suffering of ordinary people, esp the weakest members like children, girls/women and the elderly? Ofc the Jews and LGBT have been attacked too.
I guess the French have no choice but to wait for someone like Eric Zemmour to take power…or Marine Le Pen, but she’s much weaker than him imo…still better than anyone on the Center-Left….same goes for all free nations…India/Israel are suffering through the same thing, thanks to Leftists who coddle Islam.
Fitna says
PRCS, see my reply to you below.
tim gallagher says
I agree with your analysis, Fitna. I know that it is hard to get rid of Muslims by deporting them, but if the majority in a country want it done, it can be done and will need to be done some day. You hear about how you can’t leave citizens stateless (I offten hear that out here in Australia) and we are stuck with them, and Muslim countries are in favour of the Muslim invasion so they won’t take them back, but I like what Burma did when it threw out its Muslims. They’d obviously had enough of the trouble Muslims there had caused. As for how evil the scum who devised islam were, no a doubt in the world about that. They were as evil as human beings can be. They made up a foul version of god that was just like them.
James Lincoln says
Yes, Fitna.
Fitna says
+1
Fitna says
Agreed PRCS,
If they examined Islam, not only would they find Islamic law directly contradicts western secular laws, but Islam is also treasonous in that it has the goal to destroy democracy/freedom and replace it with Islamic rule/Sharia law.
On that basis alone they can outlaw Islam and make it a criminal/illegal entity on our soil. Once you do that, it’s easy to end Islam, most Muslims are cowards and they would flee on their own, knowing they could get jailed for following this ideology.
But it all comes back to the elites…they have the power to stop this but don’t…so we need to elect leaders who have the stones to do it.
PRCS says
Yes, Islam’s goal is to subjugate the entire world under the hegemony of Islamic law can be prevented, if only….
Ideologies/beliefs can’t be outlawed in the U.S.; the 1977 Village of Skokie, Illinois/Nazi march situation being an example and–of course–they exist in both physical form (books/Internet, etc.)–and in people’s minds.
Some Muslims have been convicted and sentenced for “honor killings”, but the general population still wrongly believes such incidents are committed by “extremists”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Noor_Almaleki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaser_Abdel_Said
The public remains woefully ignorant about “the religion of peace”.
Shema says
I honestly think of islam the same way as being infected with a virus. It may stay dormant for decades. Similar to chicken pox, you got infected, stays dormant for decades and it can pop up anytime later as a nasty, potentially life altering painful rash.
Plus the deceit is baked right in to make it even less likely a smart rational non-Islamic nation/people would accept them to live amongst them.
Islam enslaves it’s people and does everything it can to keep them that way.
I think most of the true apostates will show such clear anti Islamic attitudes/beliefs that there is “almost” no doubt.
tim gallagher says
Yet again just another bunch of peaceful Muslims. How those complete morons, including the present day Pope, can keep lying and telling us that islam is peaceful is beyond my comprehension. This foul, murderously violent load of crap, islam, is surely one of the greatest blights to ever infect parts of the human race. Tolerance and the Golden Rule never have existed in hate-filled islam and they never will. Any decent human being would have to try to find a way to leave islam behind and join the more civilised, peaceful non-Muslim part of the human race..
Fitna says
Concurred Tim….if only Mohammad had the decency to include the ‘Golden Rule’…treat others as you would yourself, we wouldn’t see so much violence and brutality coming out of this death cult.
In way because Islam is so barbaric, it also gives us little reason to try to make peace with Muslims, and the problem becomes a little simpler…we have to defeat them once and for all.
Fitna says
Forgot to add, I’ve been watching a ton of debates recently on Youtube involving Muslims vs Christians (or vs Atheists)…the pattern becomes very clear.
Actually one of the best and clearest debates was recently uploaded by Robert (it includes him) and it’s really worth seeing.
You begin to realize the way Muslims think esp. the men. They are incapable of seeing that they or their prophet could be wrong. They have absolutely no problem with the evil and brutality taught in the Quran/Hadiths.
Both of Islam apologists also made it clear they would execute anyone that left Islam if they lived in a Muslim majority state (or made our countries Islamic). They feel they are doing the right thing and are not amenable to reason or to change. Ofc if they’re on board with that, then same with pedophilia, jihad and the rest of it.
To them Sharia law is as straightforward as our secular laws are to us. There is no reasoning with people like this. Either you accept their supremacy over you, or you defeat them.
Deportation will be very necessary in the future, or they’ll turn our countries into the same hellholes they came from. I suspect we’ll probably end up in a war against them also.
Many people still have no idea what we’re up against…but hopefully through social media, more people will be educated on this ideology so we can vote in anti-Islamic parties and get rid of them.
Jim says
you cannot deport muslims back to their original country because they country will not accept them. Do they are without a country and we are stuck with them period.
Fitna says
Jim that’s a silly cop-out, where there’s a will there’s always a way.
Deporting them is a minor concern…making the firm decision to deport is the hard part.
Air-drop these fkrs to Rwanda, Antarctica for all I care, but they will go one way or another…once people wake up…6 ft under is another option.
James Lincoln says
Fitna,
The Golden Rule is anathema to devout muslims.
Stewart Davies says
Their “Allah” is a pagan deity. He is, therefore a powerful demonic sprit. Killing to appease pagan deities is par for the course.
FYI says
The Jihadi family that ‘prays’ together,slays together.
FYI says
Of course the guy in the above photo was not likely to survive allah’s judgement day{koran 3:106}
allah is quite fussy about who he lets into his paradise{koran 3:107}
allah does not like….. ‘those whose faces have been blackened’
“taste the punishment for that ye disbelieved” allah does judge by appearance.
OLD GUY says
We need to take a hard look at our legal system of courts. Why is it five years from the arrest of these people to jury selection. It should NOT take that long to bring someone to trial.
Same thing with immigration hearings, they go before the court and are then given a date years out for the hearing, why not do it right then and be over with it.
And how about the death sentence, you’ll die of old age before they will get around to executing the sentence.
It appears that filling of motions to delay and stretch out these cases is highly profitable for LAWYERS.
And WE the tax payer pay the bill.
Rotondaron says
Islam, compared to the ‘West” religious philosophy: Islam, is a “very old” , & extremely antiquated form of some type of worship of evil!
Our culture will not accept this evil thought process, & a totally Illegal activity!
1. Arrest any Muslim, that breaks our laws!
2. Any activity that shows “Terrorism”, that person, if found guilty, gets the death Penalty!
3. Islam/Koran, promises an oath to “KILL INFIDEL’S…{ “That’s US”!]
4. Any “self avowed. Musilm, Must take an oath to follow American laws, or be deported forthwith!
NO EXCEPTIONS!