He was originally reported as being Muslim because eyewitnesses said that people at the gas station said they were Muslim and objected to the gays dancing. The killer apparently emerged from that group. So why was a Christian who goes to church and wears a cross hanging around with a crowd of Muslims who were apparently Sharia-adherent enough to take exception to homosexuals, and thus would likely have held a devout Christian in contempt? Why did someone in the group apparently say “We are Muslims” if they weren’t all Muslims? And now for the first time we’re hearing that there were a lot of “anti-black statements” made. There are many more questions than there are answers regarding this case.
Other possibilities: he converted to Islam and his grandmother doesn’t know it. Or he is Muslim and claiming to be Christian, as we have seen several times recently.
“Brooklyn teen who fatally stabbed gay dancer O’Shae Sibley charged as an adult with murder as a hate crime: NYPD,” by Thomas Tracy, New York Daily News, August 6, 2023:
The 17-year-old boy who fatally stabbed gay dancer O’Shae Sibley for voguing at a Brooklyn gas station has been charged as an adult with second-degree murder and committing a hate crime, authorities said Saturday.
The teen hurled homophobic slurs and anti-Black epithets at his victim before plunging the knife deep into his side, piercing his heart, Chief Joe Kenny of the NYPD Detective Bureau said….
The teen was not named because of his age. The boy’s grandmother defended him on Saturday, claiming he isn’t a racist.
Nor is the suspect Muslim, the grandmother said. A witness to the violence said people with the suspect identified themselves as Muslim.
The suspect is “a Christian and belongs to the church. He wears a cross,” the grandmother told the Daily News. “The news says he hates Black people, but his older brother has married a black woman. We have a grandchild who is Black. He does not understand gay or not gay.”
Her grandson was merely defending himself from Sibley and his friends when Sibley was stabbed, she said.
“There were four of them… strong, big men and intoxicated,” she said. “If he did not do it, the guys would have killed him.”…
Mayor Adams stood at the Mobil gas station on Coney Island Ave. and Avenue P in Midwood on Saturday with Muslim and LGBTQ+ leaders to announce the arrest and lay flowers at the spot where Sibley was fatally stabbed….
The teens “demanded that they stop dancing,” Kenny said. “You can see on video that the heated dispute quickly turned physical.
“There were lot of anti-gay statements and derogatory anti-Black statements,” Kenny said. “There were a lot of people from the community acting like peacemakers.”…
His friends weren’t being charged because none of them took part in the stabbing, according to police. Most had already left before the attack even occurred.
The teens identified themselves as Muslim and said they objected to Sibley’s performance and to the mini bathing suit one of his friends was wearing, a witness told the Daily News.
While ugly slurs were lobbed against Sibley and his friends, Adams said the killing shouldn’t be cast as a Muslim vs. gay quarrel.
“These are both important communities in the city of New York,” Adams said. “Both are against any level of hate and both have been victimized by Islamophobia and anti-gay hate….
Soniya Ali, executive director of the Muslim Community Center, said the teen wouldn’t have found refuge in her community.
“As Muslims we are commanded to stand up for justice, even if it means standing against our own selves,” she said….
somehistory says
There seems to be a lot of bologna in this account.
mozlums aren’t against hate. and they have certainly shown they are not afraid to throw homosexuals from rooftops.
This “grandmother” has not helped her grandson, imo. If he was actually being threatened, it should be on the camera. But, for some reason, it seems to be a crime in NYC now to call someone a *racist* name. No longer is there freedom of speech. Except for the mozlum spokesperson, lying through her teeth.
And it seems as if he has already been convicted by the ‘mayor”….a racist guy…And evidently, Christians aren’t of any importance to him or *his* city.
ElderlyZionist says
A 17 year old is hardly a ‘boy’. Why is his grandmother defending him? Was she the one who raised him?
Hoi Polloi says
Agreed. Why the characterization as muslim by people in the know if he’s not? There’s a lot of leftist noise about this counter story. We’ll have to see. Awfully convenient so many of these stories concern minors who can’t be ID’d.
somehistory says
Yes, it is convenient. They want everyone to believe that a Christian was with a group of mozlums, which group walked away, while the Christian called out insults and then murdered someone because of what the victim was doing.
No Christian would do that, but mozlums certainly do. And he wouldn’t be the first mozlum to murder and then claim Christianity.
The mozlum woman who claims that mozlums don’t do that, is of course, lying through her teeth.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Maybe the Church of islam? ?
gravenimage says
Spot on, Infidel.
mike says
now time and time again Muslims claim insanity
well if in fact the person is not Muslim
that plea will not work
this guy needs to rot in Jain but because he’s 17
that will not happen
tgusa says
I hears he was an aspiring scientologist. Initially muslims like him were classified as mentally ill. Now they are being classified as Christians. If lying is a part of islam muslims might want to take some lessons.
gravenimage says
Lying *is* a part of Islam, tgusa.
Larry_Mondello says
Remember how the Muslim who ran around the park in France was portrayed as a Christian? Don’t believe this for a moment.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Larry. Just what I was thinking.
Hudders. says
Of course I don’t believe he is ‘Christian.’
Seems like more carefully munaged onsfucation to me.
But regardless, it doesn’t change the true facts regarding that real muslim burning hatred & proven murderous punishment of homosexuals.
Which is a creep contorted & confusing hatred, considering their penchant for darling dancing boys and those sweet precious pearls, that allah has supposedly waiting for them in that spirititual public toilet they call paradise.
Yet more evidence that islam is a backwards, low iq; medieval cult of malevolent madness.
John1 says
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Hoi Polloi says
Yes. What a sick, twisted idea of eternity with God, and that following jihad which takes even bacha bazi perps straight there.
The Christian Prince does a piece where muslims admit that their teachings allow them to rape mo himself for all eternity.
Hudders. says
**(Spelling corrected. Sorry for repost!)**
Of course I don’t believe he is ‘Christian.’
Seems like more carefully munaged obsfucation to me.
But regardless, it doesn’t change the true facts regarding that real muslim burning hatred & proven murderous punishment of homosexuals.
Which is a creepy contorted & confusing hatred, considering their penchant for darling dancing boys & those sweet precious pearls, that allah has supposedly waiting for them in that spirititual public toilet they call paradise.
Yet more evidence that islam is a backwards, low iq; medieval cult of malevolent madness.
Brian McClernan says
How many times is a white person charged with a hate crime compared to the many many attacks from blacks on whites? Plus a black Mayor already tried and convicted this Christian kid!
gravenimage says
I *really* doubt that the killer is a “Christian kid”.
Linde B. says
I think what happened to O’Shae Sibley was satanic. May he rest in peace with Jesus. +
And I think the information coming from “the grandma”, Mayor Adams, and Soniya Ali are all managed obfuscation (thank you to Hudders, as “obfuscation” means “to make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand.”)
And what was a 17 year old boy doing with a knife that could murder a human being?
Henry A Crawford says
. He knifed a man to death. Lock him up for life. Does any Christion believe in Murder? Thats a poor defense for anyone. That said he was another hate filled invader Muslim in my opinion..
e maria says
This whole article stinks to high heaven and given the fact that the media are controlled by the Neo-Marxists, therefore, the whole article is a sham!
e maria says
Given the fact that the Media are all biased and work for the Neo-Marxists in this country, therefore, I believe this article is bogus!
GreekEmpress says
I read an NBC account which left out the fact the antagonists were Muslim—
If this killer was a Christian, then I’m Queen Marie of Romania.
somehistory says
The only time a Christian would stab another person, would be in self-defense or defense of another person. As when Peter cut off the ear of the soldier in order to protect Christ.
It’s beginning to seem like they claim to be Christian in order to smear Christianity. If their defense fails and they go to prison, then people who hate Christians will have a lot to say that is false.
gravenimage says
Agreed, GreekEmpress.
SJ says
This is my thoughts from a white conservative that doesn’t support BLM.
If it’s true he’s a Christian, which I do NOT believe, then it appears as if this Christian kid is being groomed to be an anti-black, anti gay Muslim.
We need to find out more about this story! BTW, I’ve watched several videos about this, and I’m angry! These gay men are dancers and the one who is now dead was somewhat famous and had his own dance studio. They were driving home from the now deceased man’s birthday party and realized they needed gas. So, they were dressed that way and were dancing because they were in a celebratory mood.
Anyway, what gives these pricks a right to tell a black (or anyone for that matter) men not to dance? They are probably Bidens newest arrivals that are not even legal, and how many nine eleven ideological creeps should we tolerate in the U.S? They hate all of us, and I’ve learned recently from their own blogs and videos that they don’t like Africans either, even if they’re Muslim. Our black Americans are learning this too.
Also, when I watched the video numerous times, I believe I saw them mouth the N word at them, but I can’t prove it.
gravenimage says
Brooklyn: Grandmother of teen who killed gay dancer says he isn’t Muslim, but ‘Christian and belongs to the church’
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There seem to be a *lot* of Jihadists claiming to be Christians, now. This seems to be a new form of Taqiyya.
I’ve also never heard the phrasing “belongs to the church”–what church would that be? And that claim that a 17-year-old “doesn’t understand gay or not gay” is ridiculous. Whatever their views on the subject, I imagine there are *very* few 17-year-olds who have no idea what a gay person is.
More:
Her grandson was merely defending himself from Sibley and his friends when Sibley was stabbed, she said.
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Blaming the victim. Voguing may be pretty silly, but it is *not* violent. And the idea that he *had to* stab a dancer to death or else he would have killed him is pretty bizarre.
More:
While ugly slurs were lobbed against Sibley and his friends, Adams said the killing shouldn’t be cast as a Muslim vs. gay quarrel.
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Yeah–but only because *stabbing someone to death* is not a quarrel.
More:
“These are both important communities in the city of New York,” Adams said. “Both are against any level of hate and both have been victimized by Islamophobia and anti-gay hate….
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No mention that there are few things as Islamic as hating and harming gay people.
More:
Soniya Ali, executive director of the Muslim Community Center, said the teen wouldn’t have found refuge in her community.
“As Muslims we are commanded to stand up for justice, even if it means standing against our own selves,” she said….
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Taqiyya at its most blatant.