I liked how Hatun cracked up when RS said that the reason the sunnis oppose the depiction of Mohammed is that people would be inspired to worship him as a result of how marvelous he’d look. But on the other note, it would be hilarious if shi’a started worshiping RS as a deity (in the way that Alawites woship Ali)
It’s sad how 7/7 has been completely forgotten b’cos the Brit establishment treated it as a one-off terrorist attack by al Qaeda, & since every major leader of al Qaeda has been slain, it’s a solved issue. Since nobody has the brains to tie anything claimed as jihad to be connected to islam
FYIsays
Interesting thing about the koran:allah condemns muslims who attack the Gospel as evil.
see koran 5;46-47
The Gospel ‘wherein are a guidance and a light “So muslims should listen to Hatun Tash.
allah tells muslims that if they have any question they should consult the Bible people{koran 10:94]{not you note the islamic scholars!}
I always tell muslims that should do this as ‘it is written’:but of course muslims would see the koran is false
{The koran confirms the Bible as true {koran 3:3}but the Bible shows the koran to be false:And THAT explains WHY the Bible is banned in islamic countries.muslims would figure it out}
allah’s islamisc universe is a cold dark place[No Golden Rule No ,Two Chief commandments.inequality between men and women etc and in ayatolah khomeni’s shite corner.,no jokes. For Music there are nashheeds and humming.Dogs {no}.free thinking?{of course not}
The ‘scholars of islam’ want you to stay there.The Dawah folk want you to come into their miserable universe.
The Infidels’s universe? we have dogs and Beer and free thinking:.if you want to be an apostate that’s Ok but it has a different set of rules and at least in the west there is a Golden Rule Two chief commandments system.There is away to get out of allah’s universe;koran 10:94..and the funny thing is allah permits you
{but you need to IGNORE islamic scholars and think for yourself}A convert to islam is like someone who goes the wrong way down a wormhole.
Hatun tash is like someone offering free tickets to a better universe.
Walter Sieruksays
In this video discussion Robert Spencer to ,appropriately , bring up the subject that is was eighteen years ago, that murderous jihad bombings that occurred at the London Train station on July 7, 2005 .
More than 50 were murdered in that Muslim jihad attack and more than eight hundred were terribly injured.
Moreover that malicious and deadly jihadist/Muslim with his bomb not acting out in a hijacked form of Islam but actual Quran based non-watered down hard core Islam. As the Quran teaches in 9:111, “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Likewise, this “holy book” of Islam also instructs in 47:4 “Whenever you encounter the disbeliever strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…”
The terrible harsh reality is that using bombs as those jihadists in London did can, for sure, make a greater “slaughter among them” than a sword can. There are the other verses the give instruction for violence and killing for the cause of Islam, as 2:191. 5:33. 8:39.9:5, 38-39.
That Jihad bombing is the result of, or fruit of Islam in one of the cities of the United Kingdom.
Walter Sieruksays
Robert Spencer brought by that in spite of the many vicious and deadly Muslims terrorists attacks around the world , many Westerners will go out of their way not to “hurt the feelings ” of Muslim” regarding their religion.
Related to that is the day of 7/8 /23, I remembered that the day before was that 18 anniversary of those murderous jihad train bombings in that London train station that killed 52 people and injured many more on July 7 ,2005.
So put on a tee- shirt that had the words Printed on It “Islam is a religion of pieces “ I then when to the public library in my hometown wearing that shirt , then sat down to keyboard on the computer.
Then to of the librarians, together approached me and told me that my shirt in “inappropriate” that then they told men change or cover my shirt or leave the library.
In response to their demand, I informed my shirt in only a mirror reflection of that deadly Islamic jihadist train bombing which occur on 7/7/05.
The libertarians refused to listen to reason and the logic of that truth and repeated their demand. It’s amazingly terrible how much influence the politically ideology has infected American society, especially when come to “Muslim sensitivities” about revealing an ugly reflection about the reality of their religion.
This shows that “freedom of speech” is diminishing in America.
Walter Sieruksays
Those evil jihad train bombing evil in London ,England 18 years ago in which many people were murdered and many more had been terribly injured on July 7, 2005.
What the West also needs is wisdom. As the Bible instructs “Wisdom is better than strength.” Ecclesiastes 9:16. [N.K.J.V.] Likewise, this same book of the Bible also teaches in 9:18 “Wisdom is better than weapons of war.”
This deception of deceit may be seen, by all those who are willing to see, in the Islamic doctrine of a virgin filled paradise designed specify for the male Muslim jihadist who dies in the jihad for the cause of Islam, in what they so inappropriately call a “martyrdom operation.” Many a times a jihadist/Muslim is so very deluded that he actually put on his video recording that after he dies in the jihad as a “martyr” he will then in paradise have a “wedding with virgins.” This firm but blind unquestioning folly is the result of such a man believing in deception of a false doctrine. With Light of the Wisdom of Jesus a belief in a “wedding with virgins.” is the outcome of a person accepting as the “truth” an invalid and false. For Jesus taught, “you are mistaken, not knowing the Scripture nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles in heaven.” Matthew 22:29,30.
A jihadist will after dies and such a murderous way will have a very hard and harsh “reality check” In that “his expectation will perish…” Proverb 11:7. For he will then discover that he was deceived by false doctrine and lie of “a paradise with virgins” and to his shock and horror he will find himself trapped and suffering ,with no hope of escape, in the fires of hell. As the Bible teaches a murder “will not inherit the kingdom of God,” Galatians 5:21. This is sad and tragic but nevertheless it’s the reality of the truth.
Walter Sieruksays
Those jihadists just after their Islamic suicide /homicide attack in the horrible jihad bombings on July 7, 2005 at the London train station right after they died ,to their shock and horror, they found themselves trapped and suffering in the fires of an awful place the Bible calls “hell.” Luke 16:19-31. That jihad minded Muslims were dangerous to self and others because that they was indoctrinated with and likewise believed in the doctrine found in the Quran, 44:54. 55:56. 78;31.,of a lust –filled sex paradise with many virgins, in in for each Muslim terrorist use only, because he died as a “martyr” for the cause of Islam.
Each jihadist of the day had discovered the hard way that he was instructed in and put his faith in a false doctrine that is from a false religious book of false religion .This doctrine of a paradise for the jihadist who died fighting for Islam was only an enticing religious story of fiction. The Bible does give warning against giving “heed to fables…” First Timothy 1:4. [N.K.J.V]
As for dying in a murderous jihad attack, in spite, of the Muslim clerics falsely calling it a “martyrdom operation.” That jihadist after in dies in a jihad murder attack, and learn too late, the truth of Bible with informs its reader that a murderer “will not inherit the Kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21.
In addition, such false teachers, as those imams and mullahs, who teach and ingrain false yet enticing doctrines as that a lust /sex fill place with virgins into the hearts and minds of others had been predicted in the Bible. For it is written, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine , but according to their own desires , because they have itching ears ; they will heap up for themselves teachers ;and they will away their ears from the truth and be turned to fables.” Second Timothy 4 : 3,4.
Walter Sieruksays
Eighteen years ago on July 7, 2005 about those brutal and heinous mass murder jihadists train bombings in London , England. Those jihadists bombings murdered many people and terrible injured many other people is completely demonic and murderous in his deluded and wicked Islamic quest of the jihad .
This his vicious suicide /homicide jihad bombing attacks are in accord to the instruction of the “holy book “ of Islam, the Quran. Which instructs in for example Sura 9:111. “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain they kill and are killed.” After that murderous jihadist died he had discovered, to his shock and horror, the promise of a paradise with many houris , as the Quran teaches 44:54. 55:56. 78:31., for the dead jihadist was an outright lie and a total falsehood . For that Muslim terrorist found this out the hard way because after he dies he found himself trapped and suffering in the fires of hell .Such as the Bible describes in for example, Luke 13:28. 16:19-31.The Bible also teaches that a murderer “will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21.[N.K.J.V.]
Furthermore, in the Bible book of Revelation in 21:8 it gives a list of the people who will end up terribly suffering without end. As in forever in that awful place, and one of those persons in that Lake of Fire are people on that list who are murderers.
In short, that murderous jihadists is the real losers and they now understand that they was wrong. Very wrong because they placed place their faith in a false religion.
Walter Sieruksays
It’s been 18 years now since those Islamic terror murderous jihadist train bombing attacks in London ,,England on July 7, 2005..
Those Islamic terror murders of on that day were the outcome of those jihad –minded Muslims obeying the instruction found in the Quran , which teaches in Surah 9:123. “O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you…” Using a bomb is a very effective way of showing those non-Muslims in Manchester much “harshness.” Likewise there are other places in the Quran the teach violence and killing. As in 4:89. 5:33, 9:5,111. Furthermore on Middle Eastern television it was recorded that Imam Suliman Satari said “Annihilate the Infidels… Allah count them and kill them, to the last one and don’t leave even one.”
Furthermore Imam Abu Hamza Al-Masri said “What makes Allah happy? Allah is happy when Kafiers get killed. [1]
. The above words of these Imams reflect the example of Islam’s prophet and the teachings of the Quran. “Muhammad now fell upon them [the Jews] slew all the men, nine hundred of them…”[2]
Moreover, the Quran reads “When ye encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads, until ye have made great slaughter among them. …” Surah 47:4 let’s face it using firearms and bombs as the jihadists did on that specific day can sure make a greater slaughter “slaughter among them” than a sword a can.
In short, these Imams and their murderous prophet with their bloody Quran show the world what Islam really is. After all, Jesus did teach “by their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:20. [NKJV]
Thus are the fruits of Islam.
[1] The disc documentary OBSESSION: RADICAL ISLAM’s AGAINST THE WEST
[2] THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY: THE WHOLE STORY OF MAN by H.G. Wells
Walter Sieruksays
We should not and must not forget that heinously wicked Islamic terrorist London train bombings in the city of London ,England which occurred 18 years ago on July 7,2005 is based on the “holy book” of Islam the Quran . As such brutal, vicious deadly violence is sanction and taught in the Quran. As found in, for example, Sura 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4.
There are some naive Westerners who might be shocked to find this out and the wonder and then ask “Just who can those jihad –minded Muslims being so very religious ,also be so extremely heartless ,unfeeling, brutal and murderous to kill as to murder all those girls coming out of that concert in Manchester ?” The answer that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible reveals there are some men who are so very cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their own conscience seared with a hot iron” First Timothy 4:2. [N..K.J.V.] The “hot iron” in this case is Islam.
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࿗Infidel࿘ says
I liked how Hatun cracked up when RS said that the reason the sunnis oppose the depiction of Mohammed is that people would be inspired to worship him as a result of how marvelous he’d look. But on the other note, it would be hilarious if shi’a started worshiping RS as a deity (in the way that Alawites woship Ali)
It’s sad how 7/7 has been completely forgotten b’cos the Brit establishment treated it as a one-off terrorist attack by al Qaeda, & since every major leader of al Qaeda has been slain, it’s a solved issue. Since nobody has the brains to tie anything claimed as jihad to be connected to islam
FYI says
Interesting thing about the koran:allah condemns muslims who attack the Gospel as evil.
see koran 5;46-47
The Gospel ‘wherein are a guidance and a light “So muslims should listen to Hatun Tash.
allah tells muslims that if they have any question they should consult the Bible people{koran 10:94]{not you note the islamic scholars!}
I always tell muslims that should do this as ‘it is written’:but of course muslims would see the koran is false
{The koran confirms the Bible as true {koran 3:3}but the Bible shows the koran to be false:And THAT explains WHY the Bible is banned in islamic countries.muslims would figure it out}
ME Infidel says
It’s just fireworks in Portland, ME…this time.
https://www.themainewire.com/2023/07/fireworks-discharged-at-portland-police-in-more-than-hour-long-standoff/
FYI says
allah’s islamisc universe is a cold dark place[No Golden Rule No ,Two Chief commandments.inequality between men and women etc and in ayatolah khomeni’s shite corner.,no jokes. For Music there are nashheeds and humming.Dogs {no}.free thinking?{of course not}
The ‘scholars of islam’ want you to stay there.The Dawah folk want you to come into their miserable universe.
The Infidels’s universe? we have dogs and Beer and free thinking:.if you want to be an apostate that’s Ok but it has a different set of rules and at least in the west there is a Golden Rule Two chief commandments system.There is away to get out of allah’s universe;koran 10:94..and the funny thing is allah permits you
{but you need to IGNORE islamic scholars and think for yourself}A convert to islam is like someone who goes the wrong way down a wormhole.
Hatun tash is like someone offering free tickets to a better universe.
Walter Sieruk says
In this video discussion Robert Spencer to ,appropriately , bring up the subject that is was eighteen years ago, that murderous jihad bombings that occurred at the London Train station on July 7, 2005 .
More than 50 were murdered in that Muslim jihad attack and more than eight hundred were terribly injured.
Moreover that malicious and deadly jihadist/Muslim with his bomb not acting out in a hijacked form of Islam but actual Quran based non-watered down hard core Islam. As the Quran teaches in 9:111, “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Likewise, this “holy book” of Islam also instructs in 47:4 “Whenever you encounter the disbeliever strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…”
The terrible harsh reality is that using bombs as those jihadists in London did can, for sure, make a greater “slaughter among them” than a sword can. There are the other verses the give instruction for violence and killing for the cause of Islam, as 2:191. 5:33. 8:39.9:5, 38-39.
That Jihad bombing is the result of, or fruit of Islam in one of the cities of the United Kingdom.
Walter Sieruk says
Robert Spencer brought by that in spite of the many vicious and deadly Muslims terrorists attacks around the world , many Westerners will go out of their way not to “hurt the feelings ” of Muslim” regarding their religion.
Related to that is the day of 7/8 /23, I remembered that the day before was that 18 anniversary of those murderous jihad train bombings in that London train station that killed 52 people and injured many more on July 7 ,2005.
So put on a tee- shirt that had the words Printed on It “Islam is a religion of pieces “ I then when to the public library in my hometown wearing that shirt , then sat down to keyboard on the computer.
Then to of the librarians, together approached me and told me that my shirt in “inappropriate” that then they told men change or cover my shirt or leave the library.
In response to their demand, I informed my shirt in only a mirror reflection of that deadly Islamic jihadist train bombing which occur on 7/7/05.
The libertarians refused to listen to reason and the logic of that truth and repeated their demand. It’s amazingly terrible how much influence the politically ideology has infected American society, especially when come to “Muslim sensitivities” about revealing an ugly reflection about the reality of their religion.
This shows that “freedom of speech” is diminishing in America.
Walter Sieruk says
Those evil jihad train bombing evil in London ,England 18 years ago in which many people were murdered and many more had been terribly injured on July 7, 2005.
What the West also needs is wisdom. As the Bible instructs “Wisdom is better than strength.” Ecclesiastes 9:16. [N.K.J.V.] Likewise, this same book of the Bible also teaches in 9:18 “Wisdom is better than weapons of war.”
This deception of deceit may be seen, by all those who are willing to see, in the Islamic doctrine of a virgin filled paradise designed specify for the male Muslim jihadist who dies in the jihad for the cause of Islam, in what they so inappropriately call a “martyrdom operation.” Many a times a jihadist/Muslim is so very deluded that he actually put on his video recording that after he dies in the jihad as a “martyr” he will then in paradise have a “wedding with virgins.” This firm but blind unquestioning folly is the result of such a man believing in deception of a false doctrine. With Light of the Wisdom of Jesus a belief in a “wedding with virgins.” is the outcome of a person accepting as the “truth” an invalid and false. For Jesus taught, “you are mistaken, not knowing the Scripture nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angles in heaven.” Matthew 22:29,30.
A jihadist will after dies and such a murderous way will have a very hard and harsh “reality check” In that “his expectation will perish…” Proverb 11:7. For he will then discover that he was deceived by false doctrine and lie of “a paradise with virgins” and to his shock and horror he will find himself trapped and suffering ,with no hope of escape, in the fires of hell. As the Bible teaches a murder “will not inherit the kingdom of God,” Galatians 5:21. This is sad and tragic but nevertheless it’s the reality of the truth.
Walter Sieruk says
Those jihadists just after their Islamic suicide /homicide attack in the horrible jihad bombings on July 7, 2005 at the London train station right after they died ,to their shock and horror, they found themselves trapped and suffering in the fires of an awful place the Bible calls “hell.” Luke 16:19-31. That jihad minded Muslims were dangerous to self and others because that they was indoctrinated with and likewise believed in the doctrine found in the Quran, 44:54. 55:56. 78;31.,of a lust –filled sex paradise with many virgins, in in for each Muslim terrorist use only, because he died as a “martyr” for the cause of Islam.
Each jihadist of the day had discovered the hard way that he was instructed in and put his faith in a false doctrine that is from a false religious book of false religion .This doctrine of a paradise for the jihadist who died fighting for Islam was only an enticing religious story of fiction. The Bible does give warning against giving “heed to fables…” First Timothy 1:4. [N.K.J.V]
As for dying in a murderous jihad attack, in spite, of the Muslim clerics falsely calling it a “martyrdom operation.” That jihadist after in dies in a jihad murder attack, and learn too late, the truth of Bible with informs its reader that a murderer “will not inherit the Kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21.
In addition, such false teachers, as those imams and mullahs, who teach and ingrain false yet enticing doctrines as that a lust /sex fill place with virgins into the hearts and minds of others had been predicted in the Bible. For it is written, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine , but according to their own desires , because they have itching ears ; they will heap up for themselves teachers ;and they will away their ears from the truth and be turned to fables.” Second Timothy 4 : 3,4.
Walter Sieruk says
Eighteen years ago on July 7, 2005 about those brutal and heinous mass murder jihadists train bombings in London , England. Those jihadists bombings murdered many people and terrible injured many other people is completely demonic and murderous in his deluded and wicked Islamic quest of the jihad .
This his vicious suicide /homicide jihad bombing attacks are in accord to the instruction of the “holy book “ of Islam, the Quran. Which instructs in for example Sura 9:111. “The believer’s fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain they kill and are killed.” After that murderous jihadist died he had discovered, to his shock and horror, the promise of a paradise with many houris , as the Quran teaches 44:54. 55:56. 78:31., for the dead jihadist was an outright lie and a total falsehood . For that Muslim terrorist found this out the hard way because after he dies he found himself trapped and suffering in the fires of hell .Such as the Bible describes in for example, Luke 13:28. 16:19-31.The Bible also teaches that a murderer “will not inherit the kingdom of God.” Galatians 5:21.[N.K.J.V.]
Furthermore, in the Bible book of Revelation in 21:8 it gives a list of the people who will end up terribly suffering without end. As in forever in that awful place, and one of those persons in that Lake of Fire are people on that list who are murderers.
In short, that murderous jihadists is the real losers and they now understand that they was wrong. Very wrong because they placed place their faith in a false religion.
Walter Sieruk says
It’s been 18 years now since those Islamic terror murderous jihadist train bombing attacks in London ,,England on July 7, 2005..
Those Islamic terror murders of on that day were the outcome of those jihad –minded Muslims obeying the instruction found in the Quran , which teaches in Surah 9:123. “O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are close to you and let them find harshness in you…” Using a bomb is a very effective way of showing those non-Muslims in Manchester much “harshness.” Likewise there are other places in the Quran the teach violence and killing. As in 4:89. 5:33, 9:5,111. Furthermore on Middle Eastern television it was recorded that Imam Suliman Satari said “Annihilate the Infidels… Allah count them and kill them, to the last one and don’t leave even one.”
Furthermore Imam Abu Hamza Al-Masri said “What makes Allah happy? Allah is happy when Kafiers get killed. [1]
. The above words of these Imams reflect the example of Islam’s prophet and the teachings of the Quran. “Muhammad now fell upon them [the Jews] slew all the men, nine hundred of them…”[2]
Moreover, the Quran reads “When ye encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads, until ye have made great slaughter among them. …” Surah 47:4 let’s face it using firearms and bombs as the jihadists did on that specific day can sure make a greater slaughter “slaughter among them” than a sword a can.
In short, these Imams and their murderous prophet with their bloody Quran show the world what Islam really is. After all, Jesus did teach “by their fruits you will know them.” Matthew 7:20. [NKJV]
Thus are the fruits of Islam.
[1] The disc documentary OBSESSION: RADICAL ISLAM’s AGAINST THE WEST
[2] THE OUTLINE OF HISTORY: THE WHOLE STORY OF MAN by H.G. Wells
Walter Sieruk says
We should not and must not forget that heinously wicked Islamic terrorist London train bombings in the city of London ,England which occurred 18 years ago on July 7,2005 is based on the “holy book” of Islam the Quran . As such brutal, vicious deadly violence is sanction and taught in the Quran. As found in, for example, Sura 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4.
There are some naive Westerners who might be shocked to find this out and the wonder and then ask “Just who can those jihad –minded Muslims being so very religious ,also be so extremely heartless ,unfeeling, brutal and murderous to kill as to murder all those girls coming out of that concert in Manchester ?” The answer that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible reveals there are some men who are so very cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their own conscience seared with a hot iron” First Timothy 4:2. [N..K.J.V.] The “hot iron” in this case is Islam.