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France: Court reinstates Muslim migrant commercial airline pilot with ‘radical beliefs, approaching sharia’

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What could possibly go wrong? Celebrate diversity!

“Islamic Fanatics Fly Airliners: They’re Legal Immigrants,” translated from “Des fanatiques islamiques pilotent des avions de ligne : ce sont des immigrés légaux,” by Jules Ferry, Résistance Republicaine, July 14, 2023 (thanks to Medforth):

They are fanatics but are there legally: you can’t tell them anything!

They supposedly arrive to do “the jobs that the citizens don’t want to do.”

Then, their children who arrived with family reunification have other children who become citizens by right of the soil, in France, at the age of eighteen.

And then they start to become policemen, politicians… and airplane pilots.

And you can’t stop Mohammed, an Islamic fanatic, from becoming a pilot, because our insane anti-discrimination laws forbid it.

And then, we find them at the controls of Air France planes.

“A Franco-Algerian Air France Hop pilot rehabilitated by the courts,” translated from “Le pilote soupçonné de radicalisation réhabilité par le tribunal administratif,” by Timothée Boutry, Le Parisien, June 30, 2023:

Intelligence notes reported “particularly radical religious beliefs contrary to the values of the Republic, approaching sharia”

This is a serious setback for the Paris police headquarters and the Loire-Atlantique prefecture. And a success with heavy symbolic significance for Kader (the first name has been changed). In a judgment rendered this Thursday, June 29, the administrative court of Montreuil (Seine-Saint-Denis) rehabilitated in his functions this airline pilot of the company Hop (subsidiary of Air France, whose headquarters is in Loire-Atlantique)…

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    • I am going to say the same and you said it.
      And soon they will be in the Air Force and other Defence divisions.
      Regards
      Uma..

      • They already are in U.S. military services.

        Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the infamous 2009 Fort Hoot shooter, comes immediately to mind.

        Grotesquely, at least one Muslim serves as a Chaplain for a military unit’s “filthy unbelievers”.

        • Why does the US military export Christian concepts into religions that don’t have those? Like Chaplains

          Of course, if they knew what the quran/sunnah/tafseer all taught, I wonder how they’d handle the issue of muslims in the military?

    • You beat me to it. And it’ll be much quicker & easier to pinpoint what enabled that: decisions like this one!

  2. I’d be nervous flying with a volatile airline pilot who may do the unthinkable and fly his aircraft into a high rise building or into a mountain.
    I flew Emirates return to Australia only with it being an Arab airline didn’t want to risk eating halal meat so went vegetarian where in-flight meals were concerned Had a pleasant flight came home safe. Made me think flying at 30,000 feet and below me is lots of human turmoil and suffering.

    • Can you imagine the paradise awaiting this Mohammeden if he were to take down hundreds of infidels with one flight?

      He’d definitely get a parade in “Palestine” and a NYT article about what a successful story of multiculturalism he was.

      Be careful who you trust in our new “diverse” world.

  3. Well, hopefully the airline gives pilots regular psychological exams and grounds anyone suspicious. They should never be allowed to fly even once after being grounded or fired. I would not want any radical sharia believer to fly my plane. They are too prone to think that they will go to heaven if they martyr themselves.

  4. It is a hell of a gamble to take letting a Muslim fanatic be in control of plane with the lives of so many passengers in his hands. The French authorities had better hope that the gamble works out OK though it seems a very dangerous thing to do..

    • tg,

      re: a Muslim fanatic in control of a plane

      Facetiously speaking, given what Islam teaches, no way to know if a “regular” Muslim pilot might suddenly go al jihad (as may be the case in the MH370 mystery)

      • That is no doubt right, PRCS. This report on Jihad Watch reminded me of that Malaysian Airlines flight you mention. It got a lot of attention here in Australia because quite a few Australians lost their lives in that disappearance of the plane and some of the searches for the plane were in waters off Australia from memory. From what I read today, they still don’t seem to know what happened though one theory was a suicide by the pilot taking all those passengers to their deaths as well. What an appallingly evil act if that is what occurred. I would not like to fly on a plane with a Muslim pilot, but my travelling days are over these days. I’m happy to potter around my own little area of the world. I tell people, friends wh do still travel overseas, that if I went travelling these days I would be asleep most of the time mainly because I am on betablocker drugs for heart problems and they do make you very tired, but also just because of old age. These days I am happy to sit around and play music, write some songs and sing my own and other people’s songs.

  6. Is his pilot’s license number 911?
    Remember the Egypt Air plane crash due to the pilot or copilot crashing for Allah?

  7. While on active duty Navy, I was forced to fly EgyptAir – with muslim pilots.

    I felt safer in the back of a F/A-18B trainer…

    • My time was spent in P-3s off the California coast. Pretty safe aircraft. We all had parachutes.No muslim pilots, although I did read they changed the mission after the cold war of hunting submarines and were using P-3s to hunt al-Qaeda in the caves of Afghanistan. I get a bit nervous flying commercial and this reinstatement doesn’t make it any better.

      • Shipmate:

        VP-31 Parachute Loft ’69 to ’71 (part time aircrew)
        NAS Moffett Field AIMD Parachute Loft CPO ’86 to ’87
        Patrol Wing 10 ’87 to ’89

        You?

        • Hi shipmate. CPO..Well. 81 to 85 VP-31 Moffett Field. Under Reagan. One reason I joined the Navy was necause I was bored in life and wanted to see the world. And with that in mind they sent me from my home in SoCal to NorCal. Aviation electronics tech. Didn’t really fly much, didn’t really want to.

        • They already are in U.S. military services.

          Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the infamous 2009 Fort Hoot shooter, comes immediately to mind.

          Grotesquely, at least one Muslim serves as a Chaplain for a military unit’s “filthy unbelievers”.

        • Oops! Ignore the Major Hasan post, that was supposed to be a response to another poster.

          VP-31 Tail Code: RP (Romeo Papa). Slang being Rubber Peter.

          I retired out of Patrol Wing 10 in ’89 (TAD from VP-9) as a…….PRCS.

          I was up the road from you at NAS Alameda (AIMD Parachute Loft CPO and Production Control Chief) from ’80 to ’85.

          Small world.

          As I recall, we had at least 30 P-3’s during my VP-31 tour (P-3A, P3B Retrofit, and then P3-C).

          Hangar 1 has been completely gutted and, as you probably know, the base was reassigned to NASA.

        • Yes. You are bringing back memories. Back in the day (i think I can say this without being arrested) we had the Air Force, Lockheed, NASA Ames, U2 flights, experimental aircraft and who knows what else. All that on a not very big base. Wow. I always suspected areas of the base housed something underneath as well. I wont speculate on that.

        • No, you won’t be arrested for saying that.

          Quite a few different aircraft at MF over the years:

          YO-3A (COIN OPS surveillance aircraft)
          R-21 (Army Electronic surveillance aircraft)
          U-2
          And so many others.

          I note that you were there when a P-3 collided with a NASA Convair 990 over the golf course on the other side of 101.

        • The golf course there was great. First thing I checked out. Few went there and I liked that.

        • I tried hard, dont remember that crash. Perhaps I was on leave down home at the time. In my day I dont remember the golf course extending beyond the 101. Perhaps it was different there back in yours.

      • And yours, Doc.

        BTW: did you take cat shots in the Hornet or launch from a shore station?

        • PRCS,

          Launched from NAS Lemoore. Great base, at the time they had trainer versions of the F/A-18B Hornet, as well as the TA7C Corsair. Also got to fly an TA4J trainer in NAS Fallon with the adversary squadron.

          While at sea, logged 50+ Cat shots as a “backseater” in the F-14A, A6, EA6B, S3, and E2. The S3 had tandem seating – so I was able to actually fly it when aloft.

          Also got lots of Helo time in the H3 flying plane guard / SAR.

          It was important for a Naval flight surgeon to understand all of the stresses involved in Naval aviation.

          You made me bring back some great memories!

        • Addendum:

          I can’t, of course, leave out my primary flight training in the T34C down at NAS Whiting Field!

      • You too James. Memories. The first time I rode my motorcycle up the 101 and ended up at Golden Gate park I parked and sat down on a bench. It wasn’t 5 minutes before a guy sat down next to me and asked if I wanted to buy some LSD. I said to him, thanks but no thanks, I dont think my employer would appreciate me doing that. The 80s, what can I say.

  8. In April 2014 I flew Air France to Paris from JFK to get my first look at France and I saw many beautiful churches from different periods as well as historic works of art.
    I walked through different neighborhoods and tasted a few of the delicious culinary dishes that France offers. I also had to
    deal with a few Muslims in stores and restaurants and they were polite but distant.
    I do not understand what the French government is up to or what they think will happen to France with this huge influx of Muslims in their lovely country. But I am sure there will be some radicals among those
    Muslims who are coming in or are already there. God help France, please. .+?+

  9. Sung to the tune of “Drop the Pilot” by Joan Armatrading

    You’re right on target, your aim is straight
    So you’re a muslim, you say allah akbar?
    Things can explode, there’s always ‘plosions
    You want to try some quick nose-diving, I say

    Sack the pilot, try someone else
    Drop the muslim, hire someone sane
    Drop the mahmoud, I’m telling you
    Don’t use that muslim, he’ll crash that aeroplane

    Animal, murderous, psychotical, spiritual
    allah has decreed, here’s the bomb you need

    You’re set for take-off, there’s no smoke, no flame (yet)
    If you keep that pilot he can crash your plane
    Fly it into solid ground, come on and kill me

  10. Muslim learning to fly an airplane: “Id ondly dwant dto dlearn dto fdly horrdidzondtalldy.” (I only want to learn to fly horizontally.)

  11. I like the excuse that since this fanatic is in France legally he can be left in situ to do as he pleases. It doesn’t seem to have struck certain people that there have always been indigenous ‘fanatics’ and psychopaths of every identity under the sun living legally in every country on the planet, but since when have responsible authorities allowed such specimens to remain in charge of commercial airliners?

    • MH370

      Not saying responsible authorities permitted Pilot In Command to fly, though.

  12. what if he suddenly decides to go all jihadi and fly into a building?singing

    “Come die with me,let’s fly with me,let’s fly away.. let’s use my islamic excuse…there’s a bomb in the bay,..come die with me allahu akbar alahu akbar”

  15. This has to be a late April fool’s joke right?
    No come guys…. It’s not true… Ya got me…

    Please?
    It’s not…

    ?

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