During this Robert Spencer interview it was brought up the its a shallow similarly to compare the Christians view the Bible as Muslim view the Qu ‘ran .
That’s not really a good comparison because a imams and other Muslims had said “The Qu ran is to Muslims a Christ is to Christians.”
Well since that’s the case and Christians believe that Jesus is God. John 1:1. 20:28. Romans 9: 5 Hebrews 1:8..First Peter 1:2. First John 5:20 .then the logical conclusion is that statement those imams and other Muslims can only means that Islam has in the essence if religious dualism.
Dualism is rejected in Islam
As some Christian scholars have writers have committed this along is a great contradiction within the religion of Islam.
Walter Sieruksays
One of the topics discussed in this above interview is that that Biden regime had the gall to attempt to , but failed, to set up its own kind George Orwellian “1984” type of “Ministry of Truth” headed by the politically correct leftist Nana Jankowicz. Who had said “I shudder to think about if free speech absolutists taking over more platforms…”
Jankowicz might had “shuddered” to think those as Robert Spencer , Brigitte Gabriel and Pamela Geller might keep their platforms to speak out about the stealth jihad and the subversive dangers of the stealth jihadists as Ilan Omar
Furthermore we may be sure that Jankowicz does ,indeed ,”shuddered” to think that men who in past times had been Muslims do speak out, with free speech and reveal the history of the horrors and oppression as well as the twenty-first century horrors terrors and oppression and current dangers of Islam as the former Muslim Ibn Warraq, who is now exposing the disturbing truth about Islam , as in his book entitled THE ISLAM In ISLAMIC TERRORISM.
Moreover, Janknowicz might well “shuddered” at the very thought of Christian men,as Mark A. Gabriel in his book titled ISLAM AND TERRORISM, who used to be Muslim now have the freedom of speech to speak out and expose the outright contradictions of the Qu ‘ran and how Islamic doctrine is in strong contrast to Bible doctrines, in addition who the Qu ‘ran does instruct violence and killing for Islam alone the brutal and cruel misogyny of Islam.
George Washington has ,very wisely, declared “If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led like sheep to the slaughter.”
gravenimagesays
Video: Robert Spencer on moderate Muslims, ‘disinformation,’ and The Critical Qur’an
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Yes–it is important both to research the historicity of Muhammed *and* see what Muslims themselves believe about this figure.
Interesting that there is basically no record of Muhammed at the time when he was supposed to have lived, or for a couple of centuries afterward. Another reason why pious Muslims don’t want Infidels asking questions.
Islam cannot be criticized or even questioned.
Walter Sieruksays
In this interview the information was given that the Muslim, Mehmet Oz, who’s running candidate for the Republican Senate race actually said that another runner Kathy Barnett should be disqualified to be a candidate because she dislikes Islam.
What an absurd statement that Os declared. What gall his has, That is Islamic gall.
Furthermore , Barnette was right when she tweeted “There is nothing rational about Islam.”
For just to observe such things as the cruel vicious Islamic practice of FGM and the callous malicious brutal Muslim male action of “honor killing.” shows the truth of what she said.
Furthermore within Islam the horrible behavior of jihad suicide/homicide bombings which is done by Muslim males with the absurd and bizarre promise of Islam of a paradise with many virgins in it for the jihadist who had died fighting for the cause of Islam.
All because of blind and unquestioning faith that Islam is “one true religion.”
Benjamin Franklin was right on the mark when he had printed in his periodical POOR RICHARD’S ALMANAC “The see by faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.”
gravenimagesays
Yes–a lot of Qur’ans seek to whitewash Islam, including inserting words to make Islam more palatable to Westerners. Just Taqiyya.
If this was *really* aimed at “softening” and reforming Islam, it would be different–most of this is actually aimed at convincing the Infidels that Islam is not a threat.
An it is true that the West is riven with apologia for Islam–often based on the idea that criticizing Islam is “racist”. Ultimately suicidal insanity.
And it’s true that there is–rightly–little apologia for murderers like the one in Buffalo–almost everyone condemns their actions. But Muslims, including Jihadists regularly get justified not just by other Muslims, but also many on the Left and even at times on the Right.
Yes–one of Bush’s biggest mistakes was proclaiming Islam a “religion of peace”, no doubt at the urging of Taqiyya-spewing Imams. This really has helped squelch investigation into what Islam itself says.
That is why I read the Qur’an shortly after 9/11–it is also how I found Jihad Watch in 2006–still looking for answers. But it certainly helped make such inquiries frowned upon and “politically incorrect”.
And yes–if there are Muslims who really *don’t* believe the horrors that Islam teaches, they should come out and say so. Of course, this gets them called “heretics” and “apostates” and a good way to get you killed.
But if no one speaks out it makes things even more dangerous for us all. That Robert Spencer has had two attempts made on his life and receives constant death threats.
gravenimagesays
Yes, the Qur’an calls for violence.
And if Muslim scholars and clerics *really* believed that Islam doesn’t teach violence, then they’d be taking it up with their coreligionists who “misunderstand” their faith, rather than trying to snow the credulous Infidels.
Also, often when you hear Muslims criticizing terror attacks, it turns out that they are actually condemning the US and Israel for defending against Jihad, not opposing Jihad terror itself. *Very* dishonest stuff.
And I do *hope* that some people are more willing to speak out against the threat of Jihad. Still very rare, though, and even mild statements are often made at great cost.
Good to see that the “Disinformation Governance Board” has been ‘paused’. So Orwellian–glad to see that people actually pushed back against it. But it may well be back, and probably in a more subtle guise.
And that “Dr. Oz” wanted Kathy Barnette *banned from running for office in the US* for daring to condemn Islamic pedophilia is just horrifying–and he may well be the Pennsylvania Republican Senate candidate. Scary stuff. And he’s supposed to be a “moderate”. So sorry to see that Trump is backing him–I imagine he just regards him as an entrepreneur, without realizing that his main product is Islam.
And Islam will *never* give up wanting to destroy Israel–this is orthodox Islam. This is in the charters of both Hamas *and* the ‘Palestinian Authority’. Then, it is true that Jews have been in the Levant for *over 3000 years*. The brainwashing from Palestinian authorities–the PA and Hamas–is constant, including of school children.
It *was* wise that Trump cut off aid to the Palestinians because they are actually paying families to murder Jews. And Biden has said that he knows this is happening, but would not stop sending money. Just appalling.
Great stuff re craven politicians and ‘journalists’
Great interview–and from a source I was not familiar with–American Party Podcast. Thanks.
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Walter Sieruk says
During this Robert Spencer interview it was brought up the its a shallow similarly to compare the Christians view the Bible as Muslim view the Qu ‘ran .
That’s not really a good comparison because a imams and other Muslims had said “The Qu ran is to Muslims a Christ is to Christians.”
Well since that’s the case and Christians believe that Jesus is God. John 1:1. 20:28. Romans 9: 5 Hebrews 1:8..First Peter 1:2. First John 5:20 .then the logical conclusion is that statement those imams and other Muslims can only means that Islam has in the essence if religious dualism.
Dualism is rejected in Islam
As some Christian scholars have writers have committed this along is a great contradiction within the religion of Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
One of the topics discussed in this above interview is that that Biden regime had the gall to attempt to , but failed, to set up its own kind George Orwellian “1984” type of “Ministry of Truth” headed by the politically correct leftist Nana Jankowicz. Who had said “I shudder to think about if free speech absolutists taking over more platforms…”
Jankowicz might had “shuddered” to think those as Robert Spencer , Brigitte Gabriel and Pamela Geller might keep their platforms to speak out about the stealth jihad and the subversive dangers of the stealth jihadists as Ilan Omar
Furthermore we may be sure that Jankowicz does ,indeed ,”shuddered” to think that men who in past times had been Muslims do speak out, with free speech and reveal the history of the horrors and oppression as well as the twenty-first century horrors terrors and oppression and current dangers of Islam as the former Muslim Ibn Warraq, who is now exposing the disturbing truth about Islam , as in his book entitled THE ISLAM In ISLAMIC TERRORISM.
Moreover, Janknowicz might well “shuddered” at the very thought of Christian men,as Mark A. Gabriel in his book titled ISLAM AND TERRORISM, who used to be Muslim now have the freedom of speech to speak out and expose the outright contradictions of the Qu ‘ran and how Islamic doctrine is in strong contrast to Bible doctrines, in addition who the Qu ‘ran does instruct violence and killing for Islam alone the brutal and cruel misogyny of Islam.
George Washington has ,very wisely, declared “If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led like sheep to the slaughter.”
gravenimage says
Video: Robert Spencer on moderate Muslims, ‘disinformation,’ and The Critical Qur’an
………………….
Yes–it is important both to research the historicity of Muhammed *and* see what Muslims themselves believe about this figure.
Interesting that there is basically no record of Muhammed at the time when he was supposed to have lived, or for a couple of centuries afterward. Another reason why pious Muslims don’t want Infidels asking questions.
Islam cannot be criticized or even questioned.
Walter Sieruk says
In this interview the information was given that the Muslim, Mehmet Oz, who’s running candidate for the Republican Senate race actually said that another runner Kathy Barnett should be disqualified to be a candidate because she dislikes Islam.
What an absurd statement that Os declared. What gall his has, That is Islamic gall.
Furthermore , Barnette was right when she tweeted “There is nothing rational about Islam.”
For just to observe such things as the cruel vicious Islamic practice of FGM and the callous malicious brutal Muslim male action of “honor killing.” shows the truth of what she said.
Furthermore within Islam the horrible behavior of jihad suicide/homicide bombings which is done by Muslim males with the absurd and bizarre promise of Islam of a paradise with many virgins in it for the jihadist who had died fighting for the cause of Islam.
All because of blind and unquestioning faith that Islam is “one true religion.”
Benjamin Franklin was right on the mark when he had printed in his periodical POOR RICHARD’S ALMANAC “The see by faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.”
gravenimage says
Yes–a lot of Qur’ans seek to whitewash Islam, including inserting words to make Islam more palatable to Westerners. Just Taqiyya.
If this was *really* aimed at “softening” and reforming Islam, it would be different–most of this is actually aimed at convincing the Infidels that Islam is not a threat.
An it is true that the West is riven with apologia for Islam–often based on the idea that criticizing Islam is “racist”. Ultimately suicidal insanity.
And it’s true that there is–rightly–little apologia for murderers like the one in Buffalo–almost everyone condemns their actions. But Muslims, including Jihadists regularly get justified not just by other Muslims, but also many on the Left and even at times on the Right.
Yes–one of Bush’s biggest mistakes was proclaiming Islam a “religion of peace”, no doubt at the urging of Taqiyya-spewing Imams. This really has helped squelch investigation into what Islam itself says.
That is why I read the Qur’an shortly after 9/11–it is also how I found Jihad Watch in 2006–still looking for answers. But it certainly helped make such inquiries frowned upon and “politically incorrect”.
And yes–if there are Muslims who really *don’t* believe the horrors that Islam teaches, they should come out and say so. Of course, this gets them called “heretics” and “apostates” and a good way to get you killed.
But if no one speaks out it makes things even more dangerous for us all. That Robert Spencer has had two attempts made on his life and receives constant death threats.
gravenimage says
Yes, the Qur’an calls for violence.
And if Muslim scholars and clerics *really* believed that Islam doesn’t teach violence, then they’d be taking it up with their coreligionists who “misunderstand” their faith, rather than trying to snow the credulous Infidels.
Also, often when you hear Muslims criticizing terror attacks, it turns out that they are actually condemning the US and Israel for defending against Jihad, not opposing Jihad terror itself. *Very* dishonest stuff.
And I do *hope* that some people are more willing to speak out against the threat of Jihad. Still very rare, though, and even mild statements are often made at great cost.
Good to see that the “Disinformation Governance Board” has been ‘paused’. So Orwellian–glad to see that people actually pushed back against it. But it may well be back, and probably in a more subtle guise.
And that “Dr. Oz” wanted Kathy Barnette *banned from running for office in the US* for daring to condemn Islamic pedophilia is just horrifying–and he may well be the Pennsylvania Republican Senate candidate. Scary stuff. And he’s supposed to be a “moderate”. So sorry to see that Trump is backing him–I imagine he just regards him as an entrepreneur, without realizing that his main product is Islam.
And Islam will *never* give up wanting to destroy Israel–this is orthodox Islam. This is in the charters of both Hamas *and* the ‘Palestinian Authority’. Then, it is true that Jews have been in the Levant for *over 3000 years*. The brainwashing from Palestinian authorities–the PA and Hamas–is constant, including of school children.
It *was* wise that Trump cut off aid to the Palestinians because they are actually paying families to murder Jews. And Biden has said that he knows this is happening, but would not stop sending money. Just appalling.
Great stuff re craven politicians and ‘journalists’
Great interview–and from a source I was not familiar with–American Party Podcast. Thanks.