An interview with Derek Lambert of the Myth Vision Podcast. The headline comes from one of the comments on the YouTube channel. Order The Critical Qur’anhere.
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mortimersays
Derek Lambert of Myth Vision has done well to examine Robert Spencer’s approach. Spencer has done an honest and LITERAL translation of the Koran with a CRITICAL APPARATUS that quotes the historical commentaries by Islamic authorities and includes the textual variants in other ARABIC texts of the Koran used by Muslims who disagree that there is only ONE version of the Koran.
Robert Spencer has been CALUMNIATED by the Left because Islam is the unholy ally of the Left and they cannot have their only ally critically destroyed by intellectual arguments.
The Left has NO intellectual counterarguments with which they may defend Islam, so they resort to CALUMNY, VITUPERATION and INNUENDO. This is unethical and evil to besmirch honest researchers in this way.
mortimersays
Derek Lambert raises the typical objection of Muslims regarding Old Testament violence. That violence is ‘descriptive’, rather than ‘prescriptive’. The violence in the Koran, on the other hand, is ‘PRESCRIPTIVE’ and incumbent upon all Muslims.
The two main differences between Islam and Christianity are that while Christian West is based on critical thought and the unitary Golden Rule, Islam is based on AUTHORITARIAN thought and militant, dualistic ethics.
Robert Spencer correctly points out that some of the most important research about FOUNDATIONAL ISLAM is being done outside of academia, because academia is afraid of research that arouses the rage of the jihadists.
There are so many HOLES in the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) that even the current generation of Islamist scholars now admits privately that they are unable to defend Islam anymore.
Walter Sieruksays
Robert Spencer had made himself clear , which that he’s not against Muslims but against Islam with its Ideology . I agree with him 100%
To explain this it’s important to be clear that ,as keyboard before, “Muslims are not Islam.”
As for Islam with its ideology which is against the West is naturally part of this “war of ideas”
To put this in another ways , this conflict that Islam has with the West is ,very much , about ideology ,a specific type of Ideology which based completely on the theology of Islam.
Another important thing that should be made clear is that Muslims, many times are Muslims themselves
are victims of Islam.
Some examples of this are the Muslims who have been murdered by the jihadists of ISIS because those Muslims didn’t believe exactly in the same type of Islam that they do.
There is also the brutal harsh oppression of females, both girls and women in Islamic nations around the world.be it in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Likewise this oppression of women, ,and girls is very severe in in Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shiite Iran.
Those is also the extremely cruel practice of Islam of FGM of girls and also acid in the face attacks against young women , Islam’s mysygomy put into malicious action
There is also cruel callous heartless malice-filled murderous practice of what is called in the “House of Islam ” which is the horrendous behavior that is called ‘honor killing.”
This is just a partial list
William C.says
While these academic discussions are good and informative we must not forget people are being mistreated and killed every day and the words in the Koran are the motivation for these deeds.
billsays
Similarly the Religion of Peace site is a good source of news reports, not just by Westerners but by local newspapers and media
The doctrine of Islam fully implemented under Sharia Law (which is consistent with the koran, sira and hadith), condemns freedom (speech, conscience, religion association, press, petition of government), forbids equality (between men and women, muslims and non-muslims) and denies traditional sovereignty (national boundaries, secular law, native culture). Any form of sharia, implicit (in mosques and ‘at home’) or explicit (as practiced in UK civil courts), denies human rights to women, children and non-muslims.
Too bad “liberals” aren’t interested, aren’t brave or are in collusion with whatever helps to destroy what is to invite the earthly Utopia they crave.
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mortimer says
Derek Lambert of Myth Vision has done well to examine Robert Spencer’s approach. Spencer has done an honest and LITERAL translation of the Koran with a CRITICAL APPARATUS that quotes the historical commentaries by Islamic authorities and includes the textual variants in other ARABIC texts of the Koran used by Muslims who disagree that there is only ONE version of the Koran.
Robert Spencer has been CALUMNIATED by the Left because Islam is the unholy ally of the Left and they cannot have their only ally critically destroyed by intellectual arguments.
The Left has NO intellectual counterarguments with which they may defend Islam, so they resort to CALUMNY, VITUPERATION and INNUENDO. This is unethical and evil to besmirch honest researchers in this way.
mortimer says
Derek Lambert raises the typical objection of Muslims regarding Old Testament violence. That violence is ‘descriptive’, rather than ‘prescriptive’. The violence in the Koran, on the other hand, is ‘PRESCRIPTIVE’ and incumbent upon all Muslims.
The two main differences between Islam and Christianity are that while Christian West is based on critical thought and the unitary Golden Rule, Islam is based on AUTHORITARIAN thought and militant, dualistic ethics.
Robert Spencer correctly points out that some of the most important research about FOUNDATIONAL ISLAM is being done outside of academia, because academia is afraid of research that arouses the rage of the jihadists.
There are so many HOLES in the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) that even the current generation of Islamist scholars now admits privately that they are unable to defend Islam anymore.
Walter Sieruk says
Robert Spencer had made himself clear , which that he’s not against Muslims but against Islam with its Ideology . I agree with him 100%
To explain this it’s important to be clear that ,as keyboard before, “Muslims are not Islam.”
As for Islam with its ideology which is against the West is naturally part of this “war of ideas”
To put this in another ways , this conflict that Islam has with the West is ,very much , about ideology ,a specific type of Ideology which based completely on the theology of Islam.
Another important thing that should be made clear is that Muslims, many times are Muslims themselves
are victims of Islam.
Some examples of this are the Muslims who have been murdered by the jihadists of ISIS because those Muslims didn’t believe exactly in the same type of Islam that they do.
There is also the brutal harsh oppression of females, both girls and women in Islamic nations around the world.be it in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Likewise this oppression of women, ,and girls is very severe in in Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shiite Iran.
Those is also the extremely cruel practice of Islam of FGM of girls and also acid in the face attacks against young women , Islam’s mysygomy put into malicious action
There is also cruel callous heartless malice-filled murderous practice of what is called in the “House of Islam ” which is the horrendous behavior that is called ‘honor killing.”
This is just a partial list
William C. says
While these academic discussions are good and informative we must not forget people are being mistreated and killed every day and the words in the Koran are the motivation for these deeds.
bill says
Similarly the Religion of Peace site is a good source of news reports, not just by Westerners but by local newspapers and media
Civilus Defendus says
The doctrine of Islam fully implemented under Sharia Law (which is consistent with the koran, sira and hadith), condemns freedom (speech, conscience, religion association, press, petition of government), forbids equality (between men and women, muslims and non-muslims) and denies traditional sovereignty (national boundaries, secular law, native culture). Any form of sharia, implicit (in mosques and ‘at home’) or explicit (as practiced in UK civil courts), denies human rights to women, children and non-muslims.
Too bad “liberals” aren’t interested, aren’t brave or are in collusion with whatever helps to destroy what is to invite the earthly Utopia they crave.