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Morocco: General Directorate of National Security arrests 80 people for publicly eating during Ramadan

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Apparently publicly breaking the fast is a national security issue. This is interesting in light of the fact that Islamic apologists in the West routinely dismiss the death penalty for apostasy by saying that apostasy was tantamount to treason in Islamic states, but that isn’t the case in non-Sharia states, and thus there is no penalty for apostasy. Yet there is actually no certainty that apostasy isn’t widely seen as treason even among some Muslims in non-Sharia states now.

“Ramadan: 80 Moroccans Arrested for Publicly Eating in Casablanca,” by Oumaima Latrech, Morocco World News, April 27, 2022:

Rabat – Morocco’s General Directorate of National Security (DGSN) arrested around 80 people  on Wednesday in a cafe on Boulevard Anfa in Casablanca for publicly eating during the holy month of Ramadan.

According to reports by local media, many of those arrested are teenagers from surrounding international schools.

The videos shared on social media showed dozens of young people, in front of the cameras with blurred faces, in police vehicles.

Residents interviewed by local media said that the cafe’s owner is a Chinese woman, and that they have already filed several complaints about the cafe for constant loud music and cigarette smells but nothing has been done.

“A person has the freedom to choose whether to practice fasting during Ramadan or not. This, however, should not be done publicly out of respect to all of us who are fasting,” one resident said to local media.

Publicly breaking the fast before the Maghrib (sunset) prayer in Morocco can result in penalties of up to six months in prison.

Article 222 of the Penal Code punishes people “who are identifiably Muslim who ostensibly break the fast in a public place during Ramadan, without benefiting from one of the exceptions that Islam permits.”…

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  1. Thuggish Islam at work in its usual way. It sounds a bit like some government body in a Catholic country going around arresting people who failed to fast for lent back in the old days when there was that idea of lenten fasting and not eating meat on Fridays. The whole idea, to civilised people, is ridiculous. But that’s islam for you. Always standing over people like a thuggish bully.

    • Exactly Tim,

      Everyone has the right to believe in anything they want. To use an example said by someone else, if you want to believe there are unicorns in your shoes telling you how to live, that’s fine.

      But as soon as you start telling me I have to live according to the dictates of your unicorns, then we have a serious problem.

      That is exactly the situation we’re in today with Islam and some other religions who think they have a right to impose their beliefs on everyone else for some ‘greater or moral good’ that they just pulled out of the sky.

      This is why religious wars happen. If only the religious realized their religion only applies to themselves and they have no business telling others they have to live the same way as they do.

      That’s also why Islam must be defeated. Whatever shape or form that takes matters little, all options should be on the table, but people need to realize worse than Nazism and talking to Muslims won’t solve anything. Deportation to their own Islamic hellholes is the key.

      Then non-Muslims must get out of their countries also. If they want to beat each other to their heart’s content for breaking their idiotic, stone age ‘sharia law’ then let them, just don’t try that crap on me.

      • I agree, Fitna. I’m so glad, since I suppose there is simply dumb luck in where you are born, that I was not born into one of these thuggish, control freak type of Muslim countries. The worst of it all is the death to apostates type crap in islam. Of course we should all have the basic human right of following our consciences and believing (without harassment) what we genuinely believe. I agree with you that islam needs to be totally defeated. It seems to me to be a left over load of crap from a more primitive time. What you said about believing in weird stuff (unicorns as you say) but not bothering other people is what i think about those Amish people. I think that so much technology over the centuries has made life more pleasant for us all, even though I am hopeless with computer technology, so i will never understand the Amish attitude, but they are peaceful and so they are fine. Islam is the opposite. It is full of crap but wants to impose it on all of us. It would be such a better, gentler world without Islam. Although then again, there are still scum like Putin and his regime and Xi and his evil regime. But having no Islam would be a giant step forward for mankind.

      • “Deportation to their own Islamic hellholes is the key.”

        Ain’t gonna happen for Muslims born or naturalized here.

        Suppose, for the sake of argument, relevant laws could be changed to permit that. What would our government do to the million or so Muslims citizens who will, of course, say “We’re not leaving”.

      • “Deportation to their own Islamic hellholes is the key.”

        Ain’t gonna happen for Muslims born or naturalized here.

        Suppose, for the sake of argument, relevant laws could be changed to permit that. What would our government do to the million or so Muslims in our country who will, of course, say “We’re not leaving”.

    • Tim,

      A joke from long ago: A protestant moved into an all Catholic neighborhood. the first Friday he was there, he began a barbecue in his back yard.
      All of the neighbors smelled the meat cooking and looked for the source. When they found him, he was very friendly and asked them all to dinner. they politely refused.
      Every Friday it was the same thing and those who loved barbecue and steak were suffering.
      so, they decided they needed to convert him. they talked to him and told him he should join the Catholic church. After some time, he said okay and went through the proper procedures.

      the following Friday, the neighbors smelled the meat once again. When they arrived at the man’s yard, he was seen cooking and they heard him say, “You were born beef, you were raised beef, but now you are a fish.”

      I hope no Catholics are offended.

      • Good one, somehistory. I’m a Catholic myself although I haven’t attended mass for ages. I’m up early to feed the stray cats I feed so I watch the Mass on TV a 6 am out here and enjoy it more that way than when I used to go to the service. I suppose I tend to be a hermit to some degree. A joke like that, if aimed at Muslims, would probably cause outrage. I don’t think any of the mellow Catholics these days would be offended by it. All that Lent stuff seems gone these days. I can recall eating fish on Fridays at home because, years ago, my parents were pretty traditional Catholics. That sort of stuff seems like trivia these days. I don’t approve of the obligatory celibacy for clergy in the Catholic church and I would like to see women priests, so in some ways the Anglican church makes sense to me these days. But I’m not really a part of any church. i figure we all have a direct line to God so that’ll do me. I hope God agrees with me.

        • The Apostle Paul addressed the idea of “forbidding to marry”…I believe it was in the letter to Timothy. It begins, “In latter periods of time, some will fall away from the faith.”
          so, though I am not Catholic, I agree about the celibacy issue.

          I am not a member of any church and don’t attend any services. God “sees the heart” and what He sees is what is important. And, yes, we have a direct line, through Jesus. We don’t have to worry about smart phones or signals.

        • Well we agree about the idea of obligatory celibcy. Something that I notice from your comments, somehistory, is that you know the Bible inside out. You must have a phenomenal memory and must spend quite a bit of time reading the Bible. I must say that I know a few choice bits ( I suppose I know many of the passages from hearing them repeated many times during church services over the years) and probably I like some of the passages in the letters of St Paul more than anything else. Most of the Old Testament bores me to tears.

        • Thank you very much, Tim. I have read the Bible many times; I still remember quite a bit, but not as much as I once did. Repetition is key to recall. I used to remember a lot more than I do now, and many of the things I have trouble remembering are the chapter and verse, while mostly recalling the words.
          I too like the letters of Paul and feel a kinship with Peter. He was so zealous, but sometimes rash, which I understand.

          I love the Bible books of Daniel, Ezekiel and like reading Psalms and Proverbs when having trouble staying upbeat. Deut and Chronicles are hard to wade through. but there is a lot of prophecy in some of the smaller books that apply to today and will help us endure.

        • somehistory, you obviously still have a good memory even if you say it has faded a bit. I think I’ll give the Old Testament a miss. Some of the Psalms are enjoyable though.

        • tim

          the Hebrew part can be heavy on the mind, so I understand. Since Jesus is the focus of the Christian part of the Bible, the more we learn from it, the better. Many of the Psalms were actually about Him, too.

          And, again, I thank you. I have been putting puzzles…250-300 pieces, spiral mostly… together on line and that is helping my memory some, I think. the colors are different for each one, but the pieces are always cut the same way. At least I can usually find my car keys and I haven’t forgotten where I live. 🙂

          Perhaps one day, you can share some of your songs with those of us who love music.

      • No and they never would, gravenimage, would they? What I was trying to say, but maybe not clearly enough, is that, as far as I know, all that Lenten fasting, etc, has well and truly gone in the Catholic Church, but once it did, from my own experience, get a bit of attention. That was ages ago. I think that a lot of stuff has changed. I don’t get the feeling that going to Confession matters much for most Catholics these days, but I may be wrong.I’m pretty sure that most Catholics don’t bother much with it and it is not emphasised. Things change and many things are no longer emphasised. I prefer the mellower style that the Catholic Church tends to have now. I was mainly trying to say that it is only islam, I think, which is so thuggish and always seems to stand over people and kick the crap out of them. It is a vicious, fascistic religious ideology. It seems to aim to keep people fearful. Maybe the whole stinking barbaric edifice would fall apart without the thuggish control. Actually, when I think back, Catholicism or some of its clergy that i recall used to be a bit like that – plenty of fear and not a very loving version of God i recall from some clergy. But Islam takes the cake as the most thuggish of all religious ideologies. I was saying that this crap in Morocco would be similar to Catholics getting heavy handed with people who had failed to fast in Lent or ate meat on Fridays. But only islam does stuff like this.

        • I grew up in a heavily Catholic neighborhood. We usually had fish sticks or macaroni and cheese on Fridays in the school cafeteria. There was a lot of attention on what kids planned to give up for Lent–usually either some kind of candy or else their favorite TV show. Not everyone stuck to it, but then they were in grade school. No attempt to enforce this on others, though.

  2. mozlums demand “respect’ but they do absolutely nothing to deserve it.

    If one can “choose to eat,” why not allow them to choose where eat? It the mozlums who gorge themselves during the night are still hungry the next day, they can look away or go eat.

    • This was Mohammad’s way of forcing Islam on non-Muslims surreptitiously. He knew Muslims would get angry and envious of watching non-Muslims eat around them, so he set the state for more conflict between these two groups.

      I actually had a Muslim friend say that we shouldn’t eat in front of him out of respect for him because he’s fasting.

      I told him this is your religion not mine, I owe you nothing and it’s up to you to tolerate others eating around you. Felt good to put him in his place. I wouldn’t have kept him as a friend, except that he was in my group for a long time so I had no choice.

      But that conversation for Muslims will not be over, because they plan to outnumber us and then they’ll force non-Muslims to conform to their ways, or face violence. That’s how Islam has spread itself around the world for centuries and it must be resisted.

      • I’m glad you lived through your refusal to allow him to dictate your eating habits. Many people go on diets for one reason or another. Diabetics do the trade-off thing and if every one of them demanded that everyone eating near them had to do the same, there would be a lot of arguing and fighting going on…even among friends.

        • Thanks SH, and you make a great point. Those people who choose to go on diets understand that it’s only on them and they’d be insane to demand others do the same.

          However Islam is a totalitarian ideology. What Muslims do, they feel is universally applicable to all non-Muslims, from eating habits, to dress code, to praying, and their laws, etc. Their entire lives are ruled by their religion.

          I wouldn’t mind if it only applied to their group, like I respect Jews for example because they never try to demand others live according to the Torah, they just keep to their own little community.

          If all religions were that way, generally we’d have no conflicts, but sadly that’s not the way our world is. Unfortunately Islam loves to force their beliefs on non-Muslims so conflict is inevitable.

    • Somehistory,

      As though the world didn’t have enough of Islamic vigilantes, the Islamic states too chip in to the misery of non-pious Muslims and infidels.

      I have seen Hindus asking me to join the artis (in good faith, during Ganapathi/elephant god season), and Christians too would persuade others to join them in meetings / prayers etc. I have heard people returning from Saudi say that they(infidels) would be picked from roadside to join namaz prayers, which would be state-sponsored compulsion. Infidels are careful not to loiter on the road during the Muslim prayers in that country.

      I personally believe no one should be asked or coerced to do something uncomfortable. That should be totally voluntary and out of huger for the truth.

      • I agree with you raja. Each one must answer for himself alone, and no one else will be doing the answering, so the others shouldn’t make demands.

        I have invited people to study the Bible with me, but no insisting and when they did, they still had the choice of belief or not. Everyone should be allowed to make that most important choice.

  3. I am shocked, shocked to find there is Islamic law in Morocco.

    But not that so many of our friends and neighbors still think Muslims automatically subordinate it to secular, man-made law here.

  4. Morocco: General Directorate of National Security arrests 80 people for publicly eating during Ramadan
    …………..

    The Chinese owner of this cafe is probably not even Muslim–clearly this makes no difference–Shari’ah is still being enforced on her.

    There is no freedom on Islam.

    And note that Morocco is supposed to be a “moderate” Muslim country.

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