During this conversation Robert Spencer spoke how some people say the he’s very ignorant that he says the there;s not much of a p difference between Hamas ,ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood.
The thing is an Muslim / Egyptian writer has a good valid and true statement that “There’s no difference between Hamas, ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood.
For the Muslims members of those organizations all believe in the same deity, Allah the god of Islam.
Therefore is should be make clear that God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God.
This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “
Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.
The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett and ANSWERING JIHAD by Mabeel Qureshi
Walter Sieruksays
During this rather interesting conversion Robert Spencer spoke of how some people view him as very ignorant when he says a statement like “There not that much difference between Hamas, ISIS and th Muslim Brotherhood.
Nevertheless regardless how some people might feel when Mr. Spencer says such a statement the fact remains that an Egyptian author who is also a Muslim wrote the truth when he stated “There’s no difference between Hamas ,ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood since the members of all three entities believe in that Qu’ ran the is perfect infallible error free word of their god ,Allah
This leads to very important question: “Is the Qu ‘ran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Qu ‘ran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?”
The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Qu‘ran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Qu’ran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Qu ‘ran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.”
Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Qu’ran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Qu ‘ran.
Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Qur ‘an is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” In addition , in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Qu ‘ran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’
On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
In conclusion, the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.
Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Qu ‘ran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]
staffsgt7says
The koran is as clear as the places where moslems go to the bathroom.
David brings up the exact same thing that I have been saying – how does one tell the difference between a taqiyya dribbling moslem and one who is really peaceful? And that last one could change at the flip of a coin if something bad happens to them because dying while murdering someone takes away all sins and guarantees that fast path to allah’s heavenly whorehouse in the sky!
gravenimagesays
Video: This Week in Jihad with David Wood and Robert Spencer
…………….
I need to order the Critical Qur’an. Looking forward to reading it. My guess is that Muslims will condemn it, without being able to cite anything Spencer has gotten wrong. Just a guess…
Then, this is Raleigh is pure Islamic supremacism–the idea that a public hearing about a *bus route* is too taxing to hold during Ramadan… Never mind that Muslims are a small percentage of the population there. (Of course, the problem is not that Muslims have lost their faith by asking questions, but that many have *lost their heads* for daring to ask questions about Islam.
gravenimagesays
Then, the Qur’an *does* very specifically teach violence, especially against women. Not of course that this should be considered a mitigating factor…
And it is perfectly Islamic to attack Infidels for not reading the Qur’an, halfway around the world from Washington State in France. And he will not have to face trial, despite stabbing and like murdering people.
Hilarious comment about Spencer reading the Qur’an!
Then little Muslim children are being taught to be happy when their fathers stab victims. Horrifying, but very common. This is rife in the “Palestinian Territories”. How will most of these children grow up? We already know–they will grow up to be Jihadists, or in the case of this girl, to raise their children as Jihadists themselves.
And now you can be suspended from a school in the UK for using a coffee mug with a cartoon of Muhammed on it? Appalling–and of course the Daily Mail applauds this.
Yes–*every* newspaper should have published these cartoons.
And yes–if *everyone* drew Muhammed, they can’t get us all. That is why *I* draw Muhammed. Of course, things are so dangerous that I do so under a pseudonym. Still important.
Grimly, though, death threats do deter many. I hope David Wood is right here.
gravenimagesays
Yes–the UK proved that free speech is being eroded by fining a lawyer for saying free speech is dying. But Holbrook stood fast and challenged this, and the fine was eventually dropped. One bit of good news. Of course, if Holbrook had not been a barrister, would he have been able to successfully fight this?
Then, Egypt–a Christian stabbed for trying to save his son who was kidnapped by a Muslim neighbor. Grimly, this is orthodox Islam. Will the kidnapper/stabber even be prosecuted? In Dar-al-Islam, there are no guarantees.
And even in Britain Infidels have been arrested for trying to rescue his underaged daughter from a Muslim rape gang–with the rape gang *calling the police*. Just unbelievable. And David Wood is right–this is not just fear of Muslim reaction, but a concerted attempt to prevent braver Infidels from protecting the victims of Jihad. Just the very inversion of morality–but increasingly common in these mad days.
Nice, though. to see a former Jihadist leave Islam and disavow Islam. Just hope this is serious, and not just a pose to get a more lenient sentence, but this does seem unlikely in this case. And I cannot believe that he became upset when he learned that Islam was violent, since he actually wanted to *join ISIS*. One down, 1.8 billion to go…
And yes–“deradicalization” programs have never worked.
Communism *is* close to Islam–nothing to brag about, though. Communism, Fascism, and Islam are all brutal, oppressive, totalitarian creeds.
Then more demands that the Infidels accommodate Islam–in Raleigh that the city not be allowed to hold any public hearing during the entire month of Ramadan–not even hearings about bus routes. More creeping Shari’ah.
Then in NY, the idea that anyone opposing Jihad terror is a “hate group”–and that Jihadi group linked to Hamas *is not*. Just grotesque.
Then, the nephew of the leader of Hamas died fighting for *ISIS*. And yes–there is little difference between Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and ISIS, despite apologia to the contrary. All want to impose Islam.
Then, it is also not “moderate” for a Muslim to declare that they want to die while in service to Allah (Jihad) now leading the Muslim student group. Chilling.
Lying is *sacralized* in Islam–Taqiyya–so determining who is actually “moderate” is impossible.
And in Bangladesh, rape victims are pushed to marry their rapists–the victims themselves are held responsible for tempting the rapist. Just sick–but absolutely orthodox Islam.
And this is indeed linked to veiling–neve mind that victims of Muslim rape have included elderly nuns *in their own cloisters*–still considered “tempters”.
Then a son in Pakistan murdered his own mother because she spoke on the phone to an unrelated man. Never mind that this may have been no more than a wrong number.
Newly arrived Muslim “refugee” in France immediately plots Jihad against his Infidel benefactors. Muslims in Nigeria wage genocide against Christians, and few outside the region even notice.
In Australia a Muslim male nurse abuses his patients–the rape of Infidels is *sacralized* as a form of Jihad in Islam. Of course this is important to note.
Then, after all this, Muslim Da’wa artists in Times Square say that Islam is “misunderstood” and is actually a religion of peace. Of course, if these Mohammedans *really* believed this, they’d take it up with their violent coreligionists, instead of trying to snow the credulous Kuffar.
Then, the idea that Muslims “strengthen French democracy” is ludicrous, unless you consider robbery, rape, and mass murder a form of democracy. But noticing this is “Islamophobic”.
More out of Pakistan–funny there is so much ugliness out of the “land of the pure”–where a teacher’s colleague and students *murder her* because the colleague’s niece *had a dream* that she was a “blasphemer*…
And using prostitutes is perfectly fine so long as long as it is considered a “temporary marriage”. So strange that so many consider Islam “modest”, although it allows “marriage” to multiple females, including little girls, raping unbelievers in Jihad and keeping them as sex slaves. No none Muslims consider this savagery to be moral.
Still more–but out of time…
Sure there will be more next week. Ramadan Mubarak, everybody!
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Walter Sieruk says
During this conversation Robert Spencer spoke how some people say the he’s very ignorant that he says the there;s not much of a p difference between Hamas ,ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood.
The thing is an Muslim / Egyptian writer has a good valid and true statement that “There’s no difference between Hamas, ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood.
For the Muslims members of those organizations all believe in the same deity, Allah the god of Islam.
Therefore is should be make clear that God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God.
This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “
Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.
The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett and ANSWERING JIHAD by Mabeel Qureshi
Walter Sieruk says
During this rather interesting conversion Robert Spencer spoke of how some people view him as very ignorant when he says a statement like “There not that much difference between Hamas, ISIS and th Muslim Brotherhood.
Nevertheless regardless how some people might feel when Mr. Spencer says such a statement the fact remains that an Egyptian author who is also a Muslim wrote the truth when he stated “There’s no difference between Hamas ,ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood since the members of all three entities believe in that Qu’ ran the is perfect infallible error free word of their god ,Allah
This leads to very important question: “Is the Qu ‘ran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Qu ‘ran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?”
The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Qu‘ran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Qu’ran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Qu ‘ran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.”
Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Qu’ran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Qu ‘ran.
Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Qur ‘an is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” In addition , in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Qu ‘ran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’
On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
In conclusion, the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.
Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Qu ‘ran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]
staffsgt7 says
The koran is as clear as the places where moslems go to the bathroom.
David brings up the exact same thing that I have been saying – how does one tell the difference between a taqiyya dribbling moslem and one who is really peaceful? And that last one could change at the flip of a coin if something bad happens to them because dying while murdering someone takes away all sins and guarantees that fast path to allah’s heavenly whorehouse in the sky!
gravenimage says
Video: This Week in Jihad with David Wood and Robert Spencer
…………….
I need to order the Critical Qur’an. Looking forward to reading it. My guess is that Muslims will condemn it, without being able to cite anything Spencer has gotten wrong. Just a guess…
Then, this is Raleigh is pure Islamic supremacism–the idea that a public hearing about a *bus route* is too taxing to hold during Ramadan… Never mind that Muslims are a small percentage of the population there. (Of course, the problem is not that Muslims have lost their faith by asking questions, but that many have *lost their heads* for daring to ask questions about Islam.
gravenimage says
Then, the Qur’an *does* very specifically teach violence, especially against women. Not of course that this should be considered a mitigating factor…
And it is perfectly Islamic to attack Infidels for not reading the Qur’an, halfway around the world from Washington State in France. And he will not have to face trial, despite stabbing and like murdering people.
Hilarious comment about Spencer reading the Qur’an!
Then little Muslim children are being taught to be happy when their fathers stab victims. Horrifying, but very common. This is rife in the “Palestinian Territories”. How will most of these children grow up? We already know–they will grow up to be Jihadists, or in the case of this girl, to raise their children as Jihadists themselves.
And now you can be suspended from a school in the UK for using a coffee mug with a cartoon of Muhammed on it? Appalling–and of course the Daily Mail applauds this.
Yes–*every* newspaper should have published these cartoons.
And yes–if *everyone* drew Muhammed, they can’t get us all. That is why *I* draw Muhammed. Of course, things are so dangerous that I do so under a pseudonym. Still important.
Grimly, though, death threats do deter many. I hope David Wood is right here.
gravenimage says
Yes–the UK proved that free speech is being eroded by fining a lawyer for saying free speech is dying. But Holbrook stood fast and challenged this, and the fine was eventually dropped. One bit of good news. Of course, if Holbrook had not been a barrister, would he have been able to successfully fight this?
Then, Egypt–a Christian stabbed for trying to save his son who was kidnapped by a Muslim neighbor. Grimly, this is orthodox Islam. Will the kidnapper/stabber even be prosecuted? In Dar-al-Islam, there are no guarantees.
And even in Britain Infidels have been arrested for trying to rescue his underaged daughter from a Muslim rape gang–with the rape gang *calling the police*. Just unbelievable. And David Wood is right–this is not just fear of Muslim reaction, but a concerted attempt to prevent braver Infidels from protecting the victims of Jihad. Just the very inversion of morality–but increasingly common in these mad days.
Nice, though. to see a former Jihadist leave Islam and disavow Islam. Just hope this is serious, and not just a pose to get a more lenient sentence, but this does seem unlikely in this case. And I cannot believe that he became upset when he learned that Islam was violent, since he actually wanted to *join ISIS*. One down, 1.8 billion to go…
And yes–“deradicalization” programs have never worked.
Communism *is* close to Islam–nothing to brag about, though. Communism, Fascism, and Islam are all brutal, oppressive, totalitarian creeds.
Then more demands that the Infidels accommodate Islam–in Raleigh that the city not be allowed to hold any public hearing during the entire month of Ramadan–not even hearings about bus routes. More creeping Shari’ah.
Then in NY, the idea that anyone opposing Jihad terror is a “hate group”–and that Jihadi group linked to Hamas *is not*. Just grotesque.
Then, the nephew of the leader of Hamas died fighting for *ISIS*. And yes–there is little difference between Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, and ISIS, despite apologia to the contrary. All want to impose Islam.
Then, it is also not “moderate” for a Muslim to declare that they want to die while in service to Allah (Jihad) now leading the Muslim student group. Chilling.
Lying is *sacralized* in Islam–Taqiyya–so determining who is actually “moderate” is impossible.
And in Bangladesh, rape victims are pushed to marry their rapists–the victims themselves are held responsible for tempting the rapist. Just sick–but absolutely orthodox Islam.
And this is indeed linked to veiling–neve mind that victims of Muslim rape have included elderly nuns *in their own cloisters*–still considered “tempters”.
Then a son in Pakistan murdered his own mother because she spoke on the phone to an unrelated man. Never mind that this may have been no more than a wrong number.
Newly arrived Muslim “refugee” in France immediately plots Jihad against his Infidel benefactors. Muslims in Nigeria wage genocide against Christians, and few outside the region even notice.
In Australia a Muslim male nurse abuses his patients–the rape of Infidels is *sacralized* as a form of Jihad in Islam. Of course this is important to note.
Then, after all this, Muslim Da’wa artists in Times Square say that Islam is “misunderstood” and is actually a religion of peace. Of course, if these Mohammedans *really* believed this, they’d take it up with their violent coreligionists, instead of trying to snow the credulous Kuffar.
Then, the idea that Muslims “strengthen French democracy” is ludicrous, unless you consider robbery, rape, and mass murder a form of democracy. But noticing this is “Islamophobic”.
More out of Pakistan–funny there is so much ugliness out of the “land of the pure”–where a teacher’s colleague and students *murder her* because the colleague’s niece *had a dream* that she was a “blasphemer*…
And using prostitutes is perfectly fine so long as long as it is considered a “temporary marriage”. So strange that so many consider Islam “modest”, although it allows “marriage” to multiple females, including little girls, raping unbelievers in Jihad and keeping them as sex slaves. No none Muslims consider this savagery to be moral.
Still more–but out of time…
Sure there will be more next week. Ramadan Mubarak, everybody!