(I think you can find the whole series at links in the story)
I need to check out Vocab Malone’s “Street Level Apologetics”–this is probably useful not just for Christian preachers but for anyone countering Islam.
And that Robert Spencer has published almost 25 books is just astonishing. That his work is so important is the main thing–but just his being so productive–Jihad Watch, Front Page Magazine, other articles, a packed speaking schedule, interviews, and debates, and masses of best-selling books–just thinking about this I either feel inspired or perhaps need to take a nap–perhaps both…
And yes–there are indeed variations in Qur’anic texts–albeit ones that don’t change the essentially violent message of Islam.
My favorite, unsurprisingly, is from the Hadith saying there was so much confusion surrounding Muhammed’s death that a goat (sometimes a sheep) came in and ate a couple of Suras, including the one covering adult breastfeeding…
And I just ordered the “Critical Qur’an” today. Looking forward to reading it!
mortimersays
Vocab Malone is a very fine interviewer. I hope he does many more interviews. His manner as an interviewer is very appealing and he asks excellent questions that set up for great answers!
Melcsays
Wasn’t it the angel’s fault as the angel was only revealing in a cave what Allah had said?
Either that or Mohamed was suffering with syphilis as he had had so many sex partners in a day?
gravenimagesays
A lot of these variants are quite interesting–most especially simply because there *are* variants at all, which pious Muslims claim does not happen at all.
Then, I’ve always found the challenge to either produce something like the Qur’an or more impressive than the Qur’an hilarious. The Qur’an is tedious, repetitive, and heavily plagiarizes Christian and Judaic texts–and assorted Christian “heresies”–often in particularly ham-fisted manner. Only a society largely made up of illiterates would be impressed by the Qur’an.
And Vocab Malone is right–a lot of Islamic “logic” is circular.
And WhyIslam? (why indeed?) is really ugly. I had a debate with a couple of these thugs in San Francisco a couple of years after 9/11. I was shocked that after they found that I was not completely ignorant of Islam that they actually admitted that Islam persecutes women and claims that Jesus’ main purpose in Islam is to *murder Christians* in the last days. They made the mistake of assuming that because I knew something about Islam that this meant I respected this foul creed. But they are still out there, slinging Da’wa and Taqiyya.
Great to see that so many great Anti-Jihadists and Islamic scholars applaud the Critical Qur’an.
And a small thing, but worth noting–the idea that Muslim men should beat heir wives with a “toothbrush”–a Miswak–*sounds* ‘merciful’ (presuming you think that wife beating is defensible to begin with), but it is not. A Miswak, uncut, has the length and consistency of a heavy branch whip–*hardly* the short, light, plastic implement that comes to mind. It can be thicker than a thumb.
And now the Critical Qur’an is the bestselling Qur’an in the world! Fifty million Frenchmen–so to speak–can’t be wrong!
Looking forward to reading it!
The “will your cat walk on the Qur’an” was ably debunked here by the incomparable David Wood:
somehistory says
OT: in the news: The isis “beatles” are being sentenced…Can’t be death due to the U.k. and extradition.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/beatle-gets-life-sentence-for-islamic-state-beheadings/ar-AAWKxIS?ocid
“‘Beatle’ gets life sentence for Islamic State beheadings”
gravenimage says
I hope this life sentence really is a life sentence–so often in Britain it is anything but. Still, glad to see a tough sentence. Thanks for that link.
gravenimage says
Video: Robert Spencer and Vocab Malone discuss The Critical Qur’an
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Yes–I don’t think we’ve seen Vocab Malone at Jihad Watch since “Islamicize Me” from 2018, which was hilarious! You can find the videos here:
https://jihadwatch.org/2018/05/islamicize-me-the-challenge
(I think you can find the whole series at links in the story)
I need to check out Vocab Malone’s “Street Level Apologetics”–this is probably useful not just for Christian preachers but for anyone countering Islam.
And that Robert Spencer has published almost 25 books is just astonishing. That his work is so important is the main thing–but just his being so productive–Jihad Watch, Front Page Magazine, other articles, a packed speaking schedule, interviews, and debates, and masses of best-selling books–just thinking about this I either feel inspired or perhaps need to take a nap–perhaps both…
And yes–there are indeed variations in Qur’anic texts–albeit ones that don’t change the essentially violent message of Islam.
My favorite, unsurprisingly, is from the Hadith saying there was so much confusion surrounding Muhammed’s death that a goat (sometimes a sheep) came in and ate a couple of Suras, including the one covering adult breastfeeding…
And I just ordered the “Critical Qur’an” today. Looking forward to reading it!
mortimer says
Vocab Malone is a very fine interviewer. I hope he does many more interviews. His manner as an interviewer is very appealing and he asks excellent questions that set up for great answers!
Melc says
Wasn’t it the angel’s fault as the angel was only revealing in a cave what Allah had said?
Either that or Mohamed was suffering with syphilis as he had had so many sex partners in a day?
gravenimage says
A lot of these variants are quite interesting–most especially simply because there *are* variants at all, which pious Muslims claim does not happen at all.
Then, I’ve always found the challenge to either produce something like the Qur’an or more impressive than the Qur’an hilarious. The Qur’an is tedious, repetitive, and heavily plagiarizes Christian and Judaic texts–and assorted Christian “heresies”–often in particularly ham-fisted manner. Only a society largely made up of illiterates would be impressed by the Qur’an.
And Vocab Malone is right–a lot of Islamic “logic” is circular.
And WhyIslam? (why indeed?) is really ugly. I had a debate with a couple of these thugs in San Francisco a couple of years after 9/11. I was shocked that after they found that I was not completely ignorant of Islam that they actually admitted that Islam persecutes women and claims that Jesus’ main purpose in Islam is to *murder Christians* in the last days. They made the mistake of assuming that because I knew something about Islam that this meant I respected this foul creed. But they are still out there, slinging Da’wa and Taqiyya.
Great to see that so many great Anti-Jihadists and Islamic scholars applaud the Critical Qur’an.
And a small thing, but worth noting–the idea that Muslim men should beat heir wives with a “toothbrush”–a Miswak–*sounds* ‘merciful’ (presuming you think that wife beating is defensible to begin with), but it is not. A Miswak, uncut, has the length and consistency of a heavy branch whip–*hardly* the short, light, plastic implement that comes to mind. It can be thicker than a thumb.
And now the Critical Qur’an is the bestselling Qur’an in the world! Fifty million Frenchmen–so to speak–can’t be wrong!
Looking forward to reading it!
The “will your cat walk on the Qur’an” was ably debunked here by the incomparable David Wood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOWhIv5lq0&ab_channel=Acts17Apologetics
I think I’ll take Robert Spencer’s advice about writing–I know this is good advice. I doubt I’ll be able to tackle 2000 words a day, though–maybe 200…
Hope we see more interviews here from Vocab Malone. Good stuff.