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Marine Le Pen Just Lost My Vote

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Not being a French citizen, I never had a vote for her to lose. But if I had had a vote, she would have just lost it. I am appalled at Le Pen’s latest statement about Israel and Jerusalem, which must have put a smile on the face, and a bounce in the step, of the ordinarily sour-faced rais in Ramallah. She pushed every pro-Palestinian button except the one about “from the river to the sea/Palestine will soon be free.”

Here’s what Marine Le Pen has just presented to the press as her policy on Israel, Jerusalem, and the Palestinians: “Le Pen: Jerusalem must be capital of two states,” by Yossi Lempkowicz, JNS, April 14, 2022:

Jerusalem must become the capital of both states, Israel and a Palestinian state, pending a negotiated settlement of the conflict,” French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen said during a press briefing on foreign policy issues.

What “negotiated settlement of the conflict” is she talking about? The one that Yasir Arafat turned down flat in 2000, when Ehud Barak offered him some 92% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza Strip, with some territorial compensation for the Palestinians from pre-1967 Israeli territory; the dismantling of most of the settlements, and the concentration of the bulk of the settlers inside the 8% of the West Bank to be annexed by Israel; the establishment of the Palestinian capital in east Jerusalem, in which some Arab neighborhoods would become sovereign Palestinian territory and others would enjoy “functional autonomy”; Palestinian sovereignty over half the Old City of Jerusalem (the Muslim and Christian quarters) and “custodianship,” though not sovereignty, over the Temple Mount? Not good enough; Arafat didn’t discuss the offer. He just walked out.

Or did Marine Le Pen have in mind that “negotiated settlement of the conflict” that Ehud Olmert offered Mahmoud Abbas 2008, which included 94% of the West Bank, and territorial compensation to the Palestinians consisting of Israeli land equivalent to 5.8 percent of the West Bank, along with a link to the Gaza Strip, as well as offering to withdraw from Arab neighborhoods of east Jerusalem and to place the Old City under international control? Not good enough. Abbas didn’t discuss the offer. He just walked out.

And since then, Le Pen may not have realized, it is the Palestinians who have refused to negotiate face-to-face with Israel. They want others involved, to take their side against Israel, the way that Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinski took Sadat’s side against Begin in the negotiations leading to the Camp David Accords in 1979. Mahmoud Abbas is waiting for the Quartet – Russia, the EU, the UN, and the U.S. – to take charge of negotiations, for he knows perfectly well that three members of that Quartet are on the side of the Palestinians, with only the U.S. providing a modicum of fairness.

Marine Le Pen again:

“The Israeli-Palestinian conflict can only be resolved by the creation of a viable and democratic independent Palestinian state living in peace and security alongside Israel on borders based on the 1967 lines. This is a fair, equitable and agreed solution to the problems of refugees,” said the leader of the extreme right National Rally party who, as in 2017, will again face incumbent President Emmanuel Macron in a run-off election on April 24.

A “viable and democratic” Palestinian state? How likely is it that that will be achieved? Of the 22 Arab states, how many are truly “viable and democratic” in the Western sense? Just one, and that one just barely – Tunisia. In Gaza the Palestinians are ruled by Hamas, a ruthless terror group, that murders its political rivals, beginning with its killing of Fatah fighters in 2007. Just two Hamas leaders – Khaled Meshaal and Mousa ibn Marzouk – have amassed fortunes of $2.5 billion apiece – and decamped, the first to Doha, Qatar, and the second to New Cairo, Egypt. Meanwhile 600 Hamas millionaires, the lesser leaders and their relatives, live in villas in Gaza, far from the prying eyes of the general population. In the West Bank, the PA is ruled by Mahmoud Abbas, who is now in the seventeenth year of his four-year term as President. With his two sons Tareq and Yasser, Abbas has accumulated $400 million, partly from monopolies on goods they control in the PA territories, but mainly from the foreign aid provided to the PA by foreign donors. Democracy? It’s an idea Mahmoud Abbas toyed with early in 2021, even announcing that there would be parliamentary and presidential elections later in the year, but then he promptly cancelled them when he realized that both he, and his loyalists, would lose.

Can either Gaza or the PA be said to be “viable”? Both entities rely almost entirely on handouts, from the United States, the European Union, and Gulf Arab states. They are the international welfare queens, beneficiaries of foreign aid largesse that has created in the Palestinian population a culture of permanent dependency. Neither Gaza nor the PA-run territories in the West Bank are economically “viable,” and even if they were to be joined in a single state, that nation of “Palestine” would never become that “viable, democratic” state that Marine Le Pen so blithely imagines can be achieved.

“For the sake of consistency and because I believe it is right, politically, historically and morally, I will remain faithful to the official line of the Quai d’Orsay [the French foreign ministry], that is to say, France’s commitment to the two-state solution,” Le Pen said.

What is called “the two-state solution” is really a surrender to the salami tactics of the Slow Jihadists of the PA. The first step in their program is to squeeze Israel back within the 1949 armistice lines (called “the 1967 lines” by Le Pen), which were once described by Abba Eban as the “lines of Auschwitz.” Those 1949 armistice lines – which were never a recognized border – would again leave Israel with a nine-mile-wide waist from Qalqilya to the sea. The Jewish state would also be stripped of the Jordan Valley, so necessary for control of the invasion routes from the east. And with Israel having been so shrunk in size, in order to achieve that “two-state solution” that Le Pen favors is achieved, then the Arabs can again go in for the kill, presumably with better results this time than in 1948, 1967, and 1973. The “two-state solution” is no solution at all, and will only whet, not sate, Arab appetites for more. Le Pen fails to realize that the only thing that can permanently keep the peace between Israel and the Arabs is for Israel to be so obviously stronger, militarily, and with continued control of territory in the West Bank, so necessary to its defense, that it will deter Arab aggression. Deterrence worked to keep the peace in the Cold War; it can work to keep the peace between Israel and the Arabs.

According to Le Pen, the French position represents “the only solution that can meet the national aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians.”

The “national aspiration” of the Israelis is simply to survive and thrive, in the ancient homeland, of the Jews, the very territory that was assigned by the League of Nations to be included in Mandatory Palestine, which then was to become the reconstituted commonwealth of the Jews, the Jewish state in the Land of Israel.

The “national aspiration” of the Palestinians is quite different: it is to destroy the Jewish state and to replace it with the Arab state of Palestine. Both the Fast Jihadists of Hamas, whose Charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel, and the Slow Jihadists of the PA, want to achieve the same goal. The Fast Jihadists of Hamas think Israel can be brought low by terrorism and war. The Slow Jihadists of the PA differ with Hamas on tactics and timing; they hope by degrees to so weaken Israel, by making it an international pariah, that it will agree to be squeezed back within the 1949 armistice lines. After that, when the Arabs feel powerful enough, they can launch another assault on the much-reduced Jewish state, and given the gigantic buildup in the armories of both Arab states and Muslim terror groups — with Hezbollah alone having 150,000 rockets and missiles in Lebanon aimed at Israel — they may be able to do greater damage than occurred in any previous assault.

France advocates the creation of a Palestinian state and considers that Jerusalem must become the capital of both states pending a negotiated settlement of the conflict and under international law,” she added, stressing that Paris does not “recognize any sovereignty over Jerusalem.

Early in April, in an interview with i24NEWS, she had also said that the transfer of the French embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem was “not on the agenda.” She pleaded in favor of an “international status” for the city.

Why isn’t the transfer of the French Embassy to Jerusalem “on the agenda”? Does Marine Le Pen not know that Jews have lived continuously in Jerusalem for more than 3000 years? That Jerusalem has always been the political and religious capital of the Jewish people? That Jerusalem is where the holiest site in Judaism, the Temple Mount, is located? That Jerusalem is where the First and Second Temple were built? Why can’t she, if elected, not only fight to “put it [the Embassy move] on the agenda,” but also make sure that the transfer of the French Embassy to Jerusalem takes place? Donald Trump transferred the American Embassy to Jerusalem, and the sky did not fall, as some had feared. Not a single Arab state cut off relations with the U.S., or ceased to sell oil to the Americans, or stopped buying American weapons and technology.

Le Pen might have said that “the transfer of the Embassy is a question that needs to be considered in all its aspects” or “I think we should examine the historical basis for the claims of Jews and Muslims to Jerusalem.” Instead she briskly took the Palestinian side: moving the Embassy, she said, is “not on the agenda.” Not good.

Comments

    • According to Alex Christoforou: Le Pen has stated that if elected, she will probably get France OUT of NATO.

      That would be a great step towards peace.

      She will debate Macron tomorrow,Wed,April 20.

      • By the way, Doomer here describes Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as “peace”. Just Orwellian.

        He has also applauded Jihad against Israel, including supporting the Electronic Intifada.

    • It would be pleasant to think so. I will be curious to see what Eric Zemmour says about Le Pen’s views on Israel and the Palestinians.

    • Just pretending? And that is better… how?
      I actually think she’d be foolish indeed to grant the fakestinians anything but then, when she peddles the fakestinian line, and I mean hook line and sinker- you think they’d ever let her off; do you think muslims in France would let her off? And do you think that she’d actually back peddle her support after a statement like she made? It was sad to hear….

    • The entire raison d’être for anyone voting for her and her party is that she was ready to flip muslims the ?. If she’s willing to do it within France, there is no reason for her to be pro islam outside it anywhere!

      If I were a French citizen, I’d still vote for her over Macron, but I’d be pretty annoyed over this part of her foreign policy

    • If Le Pen is lying in order to suck up to Jihadists this is as bad as if she is sincere.

  2. It is sickening, to hear this bias being peddled by Le Pen. After all the attacks by muslims who don’t merely belittle the Jewish nation’s right to exist but Jews, and the endless attacks upon civilians. All this one would think might lead someone who seemingly understands the meaning of a nations history and culture as she does of France, to see the destruction caused by Islam and esp. by the fakestinians who’ve been taught only that there is no right to any Jew to rule any land in Israel but only a muslim controlled land controlled by muslims. And after all this ‘culture’ of Islam, she peddles for moslme votes in France.
    What a shame.

  3. If elected, Le Pen will get an education about the actual daily effects of Jihad when the problems arrive, demanding a solution, at her desk instead of second-hand through the news media.

    An average of three churches/day torched, thousands of vehicles/year torched, and periodic terrorist attacks on government and citizens. According to the Pope, this is all of great benefit and more immigration can only improve France. /sarc

    May she learn, quickly, and change policy.

  4. this is like the guy in, I believe it was NJ, who told the truth about islam, got elected, was visited by some c.a.i.rats and changed his “mind.”

    She wants to be elected. Many pols say one thing when running and another when ruling. She probably lost a lot of ‘votes’ from people who wanted her to win before she said it.

  5. I don’t understand why politicians running for office in any country have to make any statement at all about Israel. What in the world does that have to do with running France and dealing with all the problems the left has caused for them over the past few decades? It has nothing to do with it. Do you ever hear about those running in Japan make statements? Or in Chile? When a politician gets into office there are going to be things to deal with beyond your own country, no doubt. But they are way off down the list, when the time comes.

    • Yep, much like putting food on your own table and someone asks you what are the people in the next county having for dinner. You probably wouldn’t care unless they planned to steal something from your barn.

    • Agreed Ken. Le Pen might delay the suicide for a few more years. Later this century France will be gutted by civil war, and it was all avoidable. Zemmour was the last chance for French civilisation, and it’s gone.

  8. I just don’t know what is going on in Le Pens head, but she’d still get my vote before Macron.

  9. I will take her at her word. As long as Israel does not have a legitimate negotiating partner, there is no chance of a negotiated peace, hence, no bifurcation of Jerusalem.

  11. So Macron received 27.85% of the vote versus LePen’s 23.15% during the 2022 French Presidential election.

    Zemmour received about 7%. (Why did he do so badly?)

    Predictions for the runoff?

    • The Lefty establishment love their power and wealth from their positions too much to ever give it up. I’m pretty sure the fix is in for Macron to win.

      The French people are screwing themselves by voting for the same thing over and over expecting a different result (assuming fair elections), all they’ll get is more Islam, meaning rape, terrorism, riots, criminality, etc.

      We should keep in mind that Marine Le Pen will likely have some opinions we don’t like, esp on Israel, it just means she still has some more studying to do, but she’d be 1000x better than Macron to save France from Islamification.

      Zemmour would be the best but I suspect the elites found a way to kick him out of the race. He was tied with Le Pen at one time around 17% but suddenly lost 10%, makes little sense.

        • You’re welcome James, yes paper ballots could reduce the chance of cheating, but as they say all that matters is who is counting the votes.

          I have my doubts about Le Pen, but I still believe she’ll be a significant improved over Macron, even if she has softened her position on Islam. Then hopefully Zemmour can run in the next election and defeat her.

          I think all of us who are informed on Islam are anxious about elections because we know how bad the situation is. The masses are still mostly unaware. It’s going to take that top 20% of the intelligentsia to educate the remaining 80%…but they’ve done a bad job so far.

          I think once we have a couple of European nations take the lead in fighting Islam, then hopefully it’ll inspire other nations to follow.

    • Unfortunately he did so badly (in part) because he is a proud Jew. Not trying to push the antisemism thing. But take it from someone who is the only Jew in a very big village in the enlightened West.

  12. In my experience politicians are to be believed when they express demands which are important. Hitler wanted “lebensraum” in the East (and got it briefly). Thatcher said she would take on the unions, and she did.

    Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the PA want to extinguish Israel. They have never wavered in this to their Arab audience addressing them in Arabic.

    We should believe them.

  13. Marine Le Pen Just Lost My Vote
    ………….

    Well, *this* is f*cking depressing. Good grief…

  14. Agreed Ken. Le Pen might delay the suicide for a few more years. Later this century France will be gutted by civil war, and it was all avoidable. Zemmour was the last chance for French civilisation, and it’s gone.

  15. She lost me when she said she would ban head-scarves. Like Davy Crockett complaining that the Mexican army wore silly hats.
    A ban on face coverings makes more sense.

  17. According to le pen the jihadis aren’t welcome in France but they should be in Israel.
    If I were Israel I would subsidize the smugglers of jihadis to smuggle more to France.
    What about dividing Paris and making it an international city or making half of France a Muslim state. After all they are there and they deserve their sovereignty. Lol.

  18. She has said some daft things. apart from this there’s her tacit non-condemnation of Putin’s Actions in the Ukraine. Perhaps to tempt the Melechon Group, (socialist/Left wing), to vote for her. They finished 3rd in the 1st. round & 62% of them are “Undecided”.
    If the French Muslim problem isn’t tackled soon, all that will happen is the problem WILL rise exponentially in the next 5years.
    All the present Politicians are doing are moving the deck chairs around the Titanic as it sinks. They haven’t the guts to say, Enough is enough & they’re OUT!” All hoping to get onto the Public money Gravy Train, make a pile & Pension/s, & get out before the cr*p really hits the fan. Then they’ll be on the TV spouting their empty, facile, rhetoric about what the ‘Leadership’ should do & what they should have done.
    Please go to youtube.com. In Searchbox type in: Apostate Prophet – A Warning: Islamic Scholar tells world We Will Conquer You in 40-50 Years Time.
    The Western European Countries are committing a Slow Suicide. The Europe & Western World will disappear. What a Legacy to leave to our Grandkids.

  19. Christianity is a problem in the making especially White Christianity which created colonialism, apartheid, Israel, the false wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and white Christians battling each other in Eastern Europe. In order for Muslims to solve this problem the jizyah must be imposed on the Christians in Iraq, Syria, and Egypt. The Christians that don’t like this should be forced to move and live with their White masters in Washington and Paris.

    • More vicious crap from “Tony” (not his real name):

      Christianity is a problem in the making especially White Christianity which created colonialism, apartheid, Israel, the false wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and white Christians battling each other in Eastern Europe. In order for Muslims to solve this problem the jizyah must be imposed on the Christians in Iraq, Syria, and Egypt. The Christians that don’t like this should be forced to move and live with their White masters in Washington and Paris.
      …………………….

      Where to start? Jizya never had anything to do with colonialism, save for *Muslims* conquering their victims. Jizya is imposed on Christians and Jews who fall victim to Islam.

      There is nothing in the texts of Islam, of course, that cite any reference to this being some sort of punishment for colonialism. Christians and Jews were not colonialists in the Arabian peninsula when the “Prophet” Muhammed was victimizing them there. Jizya is all about living off the Infidels, since Muslims consider productive labor fit only for slaves.

      And even if what he was saying was true of white Christians–which it is not–the idea that further victimizing minority Christians in Dar-al-Islam “solves this problem” is of course ludicrous. “Tony”–really, Abdul–just wants to abuse non-Muslims.

      And note his reference to “masters”–as Muslims see it, there is no living in freedom as equals–instead, if one is not abusing others they must–somehow–be abused by others. *Ugh*.

      What a thug–but this is orthodox Islam.

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