A tough choice between Muslim Europe and Muslim Russia.
Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.
Russia, with a birth rate of 1.5 children per woman, has invaded Ukraine, where the birth rate is 1.2 children per woman, to determine which nation with below replacement birth rates will go extinct the fastest. In the long run the only winners of the war to determine whether Ukraine will belong to the 1.2 or 1.5 people will be the Chechen and other Muslim soldiers doing the fighting.
The Chechens have a birth rate of 2.5. Their religion and mosques are more likely to inherit the territories they are fighting over than either the Russian or Ukrainian Orthodox churches.
Medieval Europe was able to recover from devastating wars and plagues, and a life expectancy rate of around the age of a postmodern grad student, because of high birth rates. But just as the Europeans discovered how to fight truly catastrophic wars, birth rates declined. World War II broke Europe when the previous world war didn’t because the dead were never replaced.
The UK birth rate during WWI looked like the Chechen birth rate. By WWII, it dropped below replacement rate. Today, like so much of Europe, it’s artificially bolstered by the British version of the Chechens, Pakistanis and other Muslim immigrants. Germany went into WWI fueled by an aggressive birth rate of 3.5. By the end, despite desperate Nazi eugenics, it had dropped below replacement rate. It looked like the Ukranian one until the Muslim birth rate kicked in.
Russia went into WWI with a birth rate of around 7, by the time the Soviet Union collapsed it had also fallen beyond replacement rates. Like the Europeans, its birth rate is artificially inflated by a growing Muslim population, legal or illegal, even in major cities like Moscow.
Every Ukrainian and Russian death is another loss that will never be demographically replaced.
Western Europe and Russia have dueling visions for Ukraine and the territories of the former Soviet Union. Europe would like them to join a wonderful union based around peace, tolerance, and importing millions of Muslims to balance out all the peaceful tolerant Europeans. Putin would like to induct them into Greater Russia which will unite Islam and Christianity.
Europeans claim that they can have a tolerant society built around the demographic growth of a religion that murders unbelievers. Putin claims that a new Christian Russian empire will be built on a multifaith alliance with a religion that has spent centuries destroying Christian empires.
Putin contends that, “we have Eastern Christianity and certain theoreticians say that it is much closer to Islam than Catholicism is.”. The Communist era left more “certain theoreticians” than dead dogs in Russia. Historians might point out that Islam destroyed far more of Eastern Christianity than of the Catholic world. But, much like the Europeans, a childless Russia has to turn to Islam to get the proles and the cannon fodder to keep the lights and the wars going.
Vladimir Putin likes to play the defender of Christianity. A defender of Christianity wouldn’t send Muslim soldiers to invade a fellow Christian country. But then again the Europeans pretend to be defenders of tolerance and yet they’ve filled the continent with a religion of intolerance.
So there’s plenty of suicidal hypocrisy to go around from London and Berlin to Moscow..
Putin argues that, “Russia was built up as a multi-national and multi-confessional state.” The European Union contends the same thing about its own goulash of nations. The problem is that the “multis” will ultimately give way to just one uni. Or, more accurately, one ummah.
Germany welcomes in a million Muslim migrants and Putin’s puppet in Belarus imports Iraqi migrants by the thousands and orders them to invade Poland. It’s as if the Gates of Vienna were being recreated by manics competing to burn their own civilization down the fastest.
Three years ago, the Chief Mufti of the Council of Muftis of Russia told a conference held in the Russian parliament on the subject of the “History of Islam in Russia: Understanding With a Look into the Future,” that the Muslim ”population will increase to 30 percent in a decade and a half.”
Dimitry Smirnov, Chairman of the Patriarchal Commission on Family Affairs, Protection of Motherhood and Childhood for the Russian Orthodox Church, agreed with the Chief Mufti. “Muslims have more children. Not Tatars, but Caucasians. The Chechens have eight children and the Ingush. The Russians will run out by 2050. Other nations will live here: Chechens, Ingush, Arabs.”
Asked if there was any hope, the archpriest said, it was “already too late.”
Time to invade Ukraine then. And then the Europeans and the Russians can argue over which future Islamic bloc, Greater Muslim Russia or Greater Muslim Europe, should control Ukraine.
Whatever casualties the current war will bring, the Russians and Ukrainians are killing themselves much faster than each other with over 600,000 abortions per year in Russia and under 75,000 in Ukraine. Both countries also have some of the worst suicide rates in the world.
Russia has the third highest suicide rates in the world and Ukraine has the seventh highest suicide rate for men. These are not the characteristics of people who believe in the future.
Behind the dueling campaigns of propaganda, the total saturation of lies, are these grim realities of despair and death. The spurious nationalism is a facade for the hard realities that Ukrainian and Russian boys are dying in a pointless war whose only winners will be the migrant hordes flooding out of the ‘Stans’ and out of Asian and Muslim Middle Eastern nations to replace them.
In the short term, European and Russian leaders and oligarchs expect to derive some temporary benefit from this latest episode in the death throes of our civilization.
In the long term, they are dooming us all.
Whatever the various sides claim to be fighting for, a Greater Russia, democracy, or nationalism, the only thing they’re really doing is accelerating their own defeat.
China and the Islamic Ummah need only watch and alternately cheer both sides on.
Much of Russia’s land, like America’s land, has already been leased out to China. While Putin chases Ukrainian territory, Russia proper is owned by China and colonized by Muslim migrants. Russia’s takeover of Crimea spurred Chinese investment in the area. Whatever Ukrainian territory Putin takes will ultimately benefit Chinese industries and their Russian middlemen.
But there’ll probably be a board seat in there somewhere for Hunter Biden or Neil Bush.
America, like Europe, Russia, and the rest of what once passed for the civilized world, have become profoundly unserious, crowded into social media echo chambers, shouting trending hashtags, and refusing to think in any terms longer than their attention deficit disorders.
There are always distractions to pass the time, to funnel away our outrage into the things that don’t matter to avoid thinking about the truly big things that do. Wars are wonderful distractions. Especially wars that don’t involve us and in which our only stake is a hashtag and a position.
But unless we start thinking seriously about the future, we won’t just lose, we will cease to exist.
Wellington says
Great essay by Daniel Greenfield. Right on point and reminding me of that song by Stealers Wheel, “Stuck in the middle with you,” which has that great line, “clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.”
Reasonable minds can debate whether the EU or Russia is the clown and the other one the joker—or the other way around. Whichever, it spells doom in our exceedingly silly and destructive era for both the EU and Russia—and perhaps for all of the West.
Again I say, individuals learn but mankind as a whole never learns. Never clearer has been this truth than now.
gravenimage says
Islam is the Only Winner in the Ukraine War
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Grimly accurate analysis from Daniel Greenfield.
Infidel says
To the extent that this low population represents a labor shortage, the best solution to that for Russia, Ukraine, Poland and everyone else is to automate as many jobs as possible, and then direct their limited native populations to jobs that cannot be automated. Market forces would ensure that they get paid optimally for those
As far as population replacement rates go, China is struggling as well. Even muslim replacement rates in ex-Soviet territories, say Uzbekistan, are nowhere near what it is in places like Bangladesh or Nigeria. But yeah, all that empty space would be tempting for others
One thing that Russia should do is explore ways of monetizing their underpopulated territory, like Sakha Republic, Irkutsk, Chukotka and so on, once the sanctions are over. Once they can attract people who are willing to accept Russian citizenship and develop the economy there, they should be on a healthy trajectory there. But don’t do it for muslims, but instead for other people from the Asia-Pacific region who might find it useful. For instance, consider bringing in Japanese into Sakhalin island
Islam has been pushed back before in Russian history – the Tatars in both Kazan/Astrakhan and Crimea were subdued, and so were the Turkistanis in the 19th century. There even was a Tatar khanate in Siberia, which the Russians obliterated and absorbed. Aside from Spain and Israel, Russia is the only one who’s pushed back on muslim conquest of its territory, and then some!
Wellington says
A sophisticated and informed assessment, Infidel. My compliments.
Ah, so many times I agree with you, though not always of course, but I always respect your “perspective” on matters even though I may occasionally disagree with them.
Westman says
Japan also has a less-than-replacement birth rate yet does not invite other ethnicities to displace its population. The Western Lefties don’t spend their time declaring Japanese racism because they are always outsiders and it wouldn’t bring any benefits to them. Throwing social tantrums works best if there is a possible response containing some advantage.
Japan has proven a good life is possible without constant expansion. It is time for the West and Russia to realize that a more temperate capitalism is possible.
Daniel Greenfield is right. We are traveling the road previously trod by other formerly-great civilizations, thinking the external battles we fight are more determinant of our future than the philosophy by which we live. We are watching “Old Europe” dissolving before our eyes as the light in its soul dims. It lost its way when it lost a common purpose for life and replaced it with materialism.
As wrong-headed as Islam’s instructions are, Muslims are not burdened with any ambiguity about the purpose of life or what to do about those who object. There is no other religion calling for the rejection, enslavement, or, elimination of unbelievers – the supremist and dangerous component of Islam.
Are Europe’s leaders blissfully ignorant, learning nothing of Islam’s beliefs, think Capitalism will convert Muslims, or, both? They probably think the energy supply is more lethal to their national integrity.
state where the average family has more than 3 children per couple.
Westman says
Preface the last sentence with, “I live in a “
raja says
Westman,
While Infidel has been great in demographics, history and economics, you comments are equally insightful. I am being educated everyday in JW. Thank you folks…
James Lincoln says
Replacement fertility rate is 2.1.
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Russia fertility rate of 1.5
28.5% below replacement rate.
Ukraine fertility rate of 1.2
43% below replacement rate.
Chechens fertility rate of of 2.5
19% above replacement.
Consider the ramifications after multiple generations…
raja says
James Lincoln,
Your analysis is grimly true. This becomes all the more imperative that islam is eradicated for the future of the world, instead of pussy footing with it and giving sermons on tolerance while importing intolerance with impunity (as this great article says)
Vladimir says
It is a concern, to be sure and I cannot deny that, but the fact remains that every non Muslim power tends to hate the others and fear the others more than they ever fear the Islamic threat. I’ve seen the numerous Muslims, I’m not blind.
Hank says
Great article. The dangers of Islam to non-Islamic nations exposed. Ukraine is attacked by Muslim jihad invaders and should repatriate all traces of Islam back to Arabia after the war.
Russia and its people are the biggest loser in this one-man Putin’s war. Putin made a mockery of the Russian Constitution and kept tampering and manipulating it until he finally got his “President for life” position. Putin then makes a mockery of the Russian Parliament and wastes their time by making them vote for such nonsense issues as extending his term. So, essentially, it’s a Putin adjusted Constitution which makes it a one-man Putin war the Russian people don’t want.
OLD GUY says
And the winner is China. The only thing China has invested in this is American dollars and euros, and they have plenty of them. China will set back and watch the rest of the liberal world destroy itself. Thank you WAL-MART.
Baheer says
You guys support gay, lesbian and LGBTQ rights, u support abortion and organise huge demonstrations for these causes, you love and prefer to have more dogs and cats than children because in the western world dogs and cats are more better than sons and daughters because in the west when a person becomes old he or she becomes lonely, that’s why alomost every old man and woman there have a dog at home to give them company. But then you blame Muslims for having more babies??? This is pure hypocrisy! We Muslims choose to live like normal humans and not like you, so is that our fault ? We Muslims prefer to have children and have families and stay together and don’t leave our parents live in a lonely house with no company or send them to care houses let them die like that. If there is no families values lift in western world, are we Muslims to be blamed for that ? If you like to live with dogs and pigs, that’s you problem and not ours.
gravenimage says
Firstly, Baheer’s claim that all Westerners support abortion is obviously false–there is a great deal of impassioned disagreement on this issue, particuarly in the United States. Then, the idea that Islam condemns abortion is also utterly false–it does not.
But it is true that Muslims hate the fact that they cannot murder gay people in tne free West–and no, wanting to do this is *not* normal. *Ugh*.
Then, many families have dogs and cats. Just because Islam teaches the murder of these animals does not make flouting this bloody savagery perverse as Baheer pretends.
Then, there are Muslim “family values”, which include marrying off girls as children, forced marriage, polygamy, wife beating, and “Honor KIllings”–as well as having large families to send the children off to wage violent Jihad. Muslim mothers regularly crow about “martyring” their children while murdering Infidels.
Baheer may pretend this is “normal”. but civilized Infidels reject this.
Baheer says
No where in Islam it says to kill dogs and cats, that’s what you just made it up on your own. Secondly it is a fact that you prefer dogs and pigs over human children. Your real children are actually the pets you keep at home because they will give u comfort and company while you become alone. Each one of you in the west will die alone! I don’t know how old you are but if you are young, I can assure you that you will be alone when u get old, u will not have a family to take care of you because you will be seen as a burden for them, how sad is that can you imagine?
And polygamy is better and far better than having multiple relationships throughout your life with different girlfriends and wifes and prostitutes and giving birth to illegitimate children. It is now absolutely normal in the western countries to have illegitimate babies before marriage. Immorality and making women as sex objects is completely normal in the west.
OLD GUY says
Baheer I don’t know where you are or from but your vision of America must come from TV and the movies, which show a perverted view of American People and families. I’am sorry our media is so misleading. my family lives vary close with my grand children and grate grand children in the same house. And yes I love my dog she is a great pet and campaign. I don’t know about living with a pig, can’t say I would want to, and don’t know anyone who does. Now a little pulled pork bar-b-cue might be a different story.
Abdul says
My dear Brother the nonmuslims are a lost cause. They make problems for themselves and blame Islam for their misery. This person doesn’t know anything about what Islam says about abortion.
Baheer says
Exactly! He claimed that Islam does not forbids abortion, while Allah swt clearly says it in Quran not to kill your children.
gravenimage says
Baheer wrote:
No where in Islam it says to kill dogs and cats, that’s what you just made it up on your own.
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Just a bald-faced lie, of course. The “Prophet” himself had dogs killed because he claimed that an “angel” would not enter his house because there was a little puppy there:
Abu Talhah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog, nor an image in a likeness.” Abu Talhah said, “The Prophet means by likeness an image of living souls.”
Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3225
Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2106
The foul “Prophet” then went on a orgy of killing dogs, and only stopped when some of the people begged him to leave some guard and hunting dogs. Most Muslims are terribly savage to dogs to this day, as Baheer no doubt knows.
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Secondly it is a fact that you prefer dogs and pigs over human children.
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What claptrap–in fact as i noted many families with children also have pets.
Then, the claim that Westerners mistreat the aged is ludicrous projection–in fact, elder abuse is rife in Islam. This should not surprise–Islam is cruel to all vulnerable people–women, children, the elderly, the disabled, and all minorities.
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And polygamy is better and far better than having multiple relationships throughout your life with different girlfriends and wifes and prostitutes and giving birth to illegitimate children. It is now absolutely normal in the western countries to have illegitimate babies before marriage. Immorality and making women as sex objects is completely normal in the west.
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Polygamy is of course only for men–any such women would be stoned to deaath. Then, the idea that having sex with four women (or little girls) is the end of it for Muslim men is quite false–they can also rape as many Infidel women as they can get their hands on, including using them as sex slaves. Note that Muslims consider this “chaste”.
And “temporary” marriages are Halal in Islam, although this is no different from prostitution, and is often arranged by Imams. Odd you don’t find pPriests. Ministers, or Rabbis involved in this sort of thing…
And actually, Muslims still often have multiple families. This shoud not surprise, given how Muslim men ae allowed to treat women.
Whereas, I’ve been in a loving, monogamous marriage for over thirty years–somethng few Muslims can conceive of. This is actually common for many people here.
Abdul wrote:
My dear Brother the nonmuslims are a lost cause. They make problems for themselves and blame Islam for their misery. This person doesn’t know anything about what Islam says about abortion.
Baheer wrote:
Exactly! He claimed that Islam does not forbids abortion, while Allah swt clearly says it in Quran not to kill your children.
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Actually, many Fatwas allow abortions up to 120 days from conception, and abortion is legal is quite a few Muslim countries. Moreover, Muslim men demanding that their women get abortions is quite common.
THen, Abdul’s claim tjat Infidels “make problems for themselves” because they oppose Jihad terror and the horrors of brutal Shari’ah law is grotesque–but this is indeed how Muslims think.
Abdul says
This is a new low from the nonmuslims and especially with Christians. Both America and Russia don’t get along with each other but blame Islam foe all of your troubles. Nonmuslims were never peaceful and just like to act peaceful. This is nothing new from them.
gravenimage says
Nonmuslims were never peaceful and just like to act peaceful.
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So acting peaceful is not peaceful? A new low on logic even from Muslims. But then, Pious Muslims cannot grasp the idea of peace as a virtue, given a faith that preaches blood and murder.
Michael says
Fertility rates
Maghreb (North Africa) 2.99/100
Maghrebi women in France 3.5
The infant mortality rate in France is 2.7 / k births, versus 19.5 in Algeria.
For comparison
Nigeria Fertility 5.2
Nigeria IMR 56/1000