This is true not just in Roubaix, or just in France. It is a tactic that is employed the world over, and the witless Infidels keep falling for it, having no idea how they’re being manipulated.
“In Roubaix, ‘investigating political Islam quickly comes down to being called Islamophobic,’ testifies a journalist,” translated from “A Roubaix, “enquêter sur l’islam politique revient vite à se retrouver qualifié d’islamophobe”, témoigne un journaliste,” Valeurs Actuelles, February 5, 2022 (thanks to Medforth):
Broadcast at the end of January on M6, a report by the program Zone prohibited devoted to the Islamism present in Roubaix, in the North – “Faced with the danger of radical Islam, the responses of the State” – caused a big controversy. Journalist Ophélie Meunier and lawyer Amine Elbahi were threatened and placed under police protection. On the occasion of a lengthy interview granted to Marianne and published on Thursday, February 3, the reporter for La Voix du Nord Bruno Renoul, who appears in this documentary and works in Roubaix, mentioned the difficulties inherent in dealing with this question in his job. “Investigating political Islam quickly comes down to being called Islamophobic in public,” he laments.
“Roubaix is a city of which Islam is a part”
According to Bruno Renoul, what is the issue of Islamism in Roubaix today? “When you are a journalist [there], it is an inevitably essential dimension,” assures the reporter in the columns of the weekly magazine. “Islam necessarily becomes an object of investigation, in the same way as if I worked in a city with a powerful automobile industry, I should have been interested in the latter,” he continues then, to support his reasoning.
And Bruno Renoul then added to the same media: “Roubaix is a city of which Islam is a part.” But broaching the subject is not always easy. “I developed a sensitivity on the issue, which led me to speak about it regularly, but I have many colleagues who do not want to find themselves insulted or threatened, he explains shortly after. The accusation of Islamophobia is not necessarily easy to swallow…”
“It bruises”
This accusation of Islamophobia is made by several people. For example, local association activists, certain elected officials, or even people who react on social networks, Bruno Renoul told Marianne. “It is all the more difficult […] since we have seen, with the Samuel Paty affair, that this type of accusation can have very serious consequences,” he explains. There was a time when he was automatically accused if he raised this issue in one of his articles. “It hurts to be accused of being driven by a racist attitude and hatred towards others,” he lamented to journalists.
“We think back to the context of Charlie Hebdo”
Initially very affected by this accusation, Bruno Renoul confided to the news site that he gradually got used to it. For him, this is “too easy a charge to be taken seriously,” since it amounts to “treating the other as racist to close the debate.” But sometimes it doesn’t end there. “I also received threats – a message promising to ‘kalacher’ me in the street in Roubaix, for example”, observes the reporter. And to conclude, not without bitterness: “You end up getting used to it, to tell yourself that these are just words. And then we think back to the context of Charlie Hebdo, remembering that the passage to the act exists.”
mortimer says
Islam is an ‘honor/shame’ culture and so, any challenge to the ‘HONOR’ or ‘IMAGE’ of Islam is ‘impermissible’. A non-Muslim kafir who exposes true facts about Islam which reduce the ‘ESTEEM’, ‘IMAGE’ or ‘HONOR’ of Islam are deemed by Sharia law to be a ‘KAFIR HARBI’ (a non-Muslim verbally at war with Islam).
The truth of a statement is not in question here … it is all about the ‘honor’ of Islam.
According to Sharia law, a kafir harbi may be killed with punishment. You may be killed for being ‘at war’ with Islam … the mullahs determine this … a kafir should not speak accurately about Islam, since that exposes certain shameful practices in Islam that are rejected by modernity.
Mullahs cover up these shameful practices and make many statements about Islam that are entirely false in order to defend the ‘IMAGE’ of Islam in the modern world. These lies are part of canonical Islam.
The mullahs are thus paid to lie about Islam in order to protect its ‘honor’ and to keep Muslims from leaving this cult in disgust.
mortimer says
correction : a kafir harbi may be killed WITHOUT ANY punishment.
Frank Anderson says
I understand a number of highly qualified scholars have a different view. I cannot in my own mind distinguish between “political” islam and any other islam. It is all one islam teaching and practicing for 1400 years a conspiracy, an illegal contract, to commit war, conquest, murder, slavery, looting and evil. The imagined distinction between 1 using a knife or other weapon while others pray and support means nothing in the law. Under the accepted law of conspiracy in the US, “The knowledge of one is the knowledge of all. The acts of one are the acts of all.” Under US law anyone who “aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance” of a federal felony is equally guilty. I suggest qualifying islam with the word political is a waste and distraction from the problem and threat to our lives and liberty.
Michael Copeland says
“Islam is Islam and that is that” – Erdogan
mortimer says
To Frank Anderson: terminological precision is important and when we say ‘political Islam’, ‘Islamism’, ‘jihadism’ … we are in the realm of political science. The terminology is not TRIVIAL as you suggest, but entirely necessary!
From Fr Henri Boulad SJ on the term ‘ISLAMISM’ :
“Islamism is not a caricature nor a counterfeit nor a heresy nor a fringe or atypical phenomenon versus classical, orthodox, Sunnite Islam.
To the contrary, I think Islamism is naked Islam, Islam without a mask and without paint, Islam perfectly consistent and true to itself, an Islam that has the courage and lucidity to go all the way to its ultimate conclusions and final implications.
Islamism is Islam in all its logic and in all its rigour. Islamism is present in Islam as the chick is present in the egg, as the fruit is present in the flower and as the tree is present in the seed.
But what is Islamism?
Islamism is political Islam, the bearer of a project for a model society and whose aim is to establish a theocratic state based on Sharia, the only legitimate law—since it is divine—since it was revealed and enshrined in the Koran and Sunna—it’s a law that applies to everything.
Here is an all-inclusive and all-encompassing project, one that is total, totalizing and totalitarian.”
mortimer says
‘Islamism’ is hidden inside Islam just as the series of smaller dolls are hidden inside Russian nesting dolls.
Most Muslims do not participate in ‘political Islam’ at all. It is similar people who are sports fans. They never participate in sports, but admire it as spectators, supporting loyally their home team.
Many Muslims root for their ‘home team’ … the Islamists and jihadists.
Frank Anderson says
honored friend mortimer, we disagree. I cannot waste my time splitting imaginary hairs trying to fit parts together in order to understand people who live to kill me and enslave my children. It is a total waste and distraction from the goal to resist and prevail the active onslaught to our liberty and future. The weapon is islam. It is made from parts. Each one of those parts combines to kill. Some remain in the weapon, while others leave the weapon to do the killing, as a bullet and gas from the gunpowder leave the barrel while all the other parts remain in the hands of the killer. It takes the entire weapon, with all its parts to do its evil. I learn from you and our discussions. I wish you well always. Please consider. Frank
gravenimage says
Mortimer, this is all orthodox Islam. Pious Muslims do not make any distinctions here.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Frank,
“ I understand a number of highly qualified scholars have a different view.” (?)
The Islamic scriptures are the same for every one and these qualified scholars are responsible for how people could understand their statements.
In France Islam is regarded as a religion that must remain in the intimate sphere, and political Islam is regarded as a set of beliefs manipulated for political ends.
The French politicians don’t claim to be theologians but no one is above the law in France.
Bien à toi
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, as long as the false distinction is accepted, the criminal conspiracy to kill and enslave will continue. Islam teaches and practices ONE goal, conquest, slavery and murder. Long Live France.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour Frank,
They have found the way to circumvent the problem. It doesn’t matter if Islam = islamism, the political Islam will be vigorously fought against.
The sentence “That’s God’s will” evokes the absolutism of royal power and that’s unbearable for us.
Long live to USA
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, you, I and a few others understand what is going on. Many others remain in either total denial, ignorance or collaboration with islam and its goal of conquest.
Among the more than 20 trades and professions on my resume, lawyer is one. But I went to law school because of the rotten things I saw lawyers doing; and tell lawyer jokes. “What is 50,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A good start!” What are a few people who understand that islam hates us and will do anything to conquer or kill us if we give it enough time? Not enough.
Back to what seems to be my favorite Catholic teaching: “It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.” Every additional candle lit is another to stop the darkness and oppression of islam. Still wishing for a long life for France, especially including you. Frank
Lavéritétriomphera says
Re-Bonjour Frank,
When I read the comments I am surprise by the fear some have. It’s exactly what the tyrants want: terrorize the population, of all faiths, and rule.
All things must be taken in their proper context even at the risk of stating the obvious.
Muslims are ordinary people with their daily concerns.
Islam is a “religion” created by Mediterraneans in the Late Roman Empire. In those days people feared the wrath of God and their powerful chiefs. That is still the case today.
Religions are all man-made ideologies and time has come to demystify this angry God and his minions.
We cannot think for ourselves if we are paralyzed by fear.
When WW2 broke out the Brits said: “they (Nazis) cannot win” and the Nazis lost the war.
I am repeating myself, but cynical totalitarian systems contain the seeds of their own destruction.
Long live to America
Bien à toi
Amitiés
born saturday says
its not just people who criticize islam and its teachings that get branded racist and islamophobe…. just being a victim of muslims is enough to be branded…. then there is having been a victim, who then criticizes islam because of it, which is a very common case….
being branded racist, and islamophobe, is not just made to censor and marginalise you…. it is used with extensive propaganda about being hateful in order to justify violence against you whether in the future or the past….
being branded is usually done by whole groups as a routine job for them…. it
usually never ends to just being branded but there is violence against you or against your family and loved ones…. whether it be physical or psychological….
mortimer says
It is IMPERMISSIBLE under Sharia to challenge the ‘HONOR’ of Islam in any way. Truth is not an issue. If by being a victim of Islamists makes someone a cause célèbre, then that person must be silenced are ‘disappeared’.
Islam’s defense is all about defending the ‘HONOR’ or ‘PRESTIGE’ of an idealized, fantasy Islam, rather than depicting Islam truthfully and accurately.
mortimer says
If being a victim of Islamists makes someone a cause célèbre, then that person must be silenced OR ‘disappeared’. The crime of the Islamists is not an issue. The ‘HONOR’ or ‘PRESTIGE’ of Islam is what the mullahs care about … not accuracy or truthful reporting of events.
gravenimage says
Yes–just being a victim is “Islmophobic” if you speak out in any way. This should not surprise–even complaining about being victimized is not allowed under Shari’ah.
mortimer says
The mullahs cannot defend Islam by telling the truth about it (… truth that is shocking and shameful). The mullahs have to defend Islam with falsehoods, slanders and threats of violence.
We all have seen it and understand it. The French have been traumatized by the jihadic events surrounding CHARLIE HEBDO. Journalists are on the front line and know it.
Islam’s backwardness, misogyny and violence cannot be defended by telling the truth, but only by lying about it. The mullahs realize that. The mullahs demand that journalists lie about Islam as well and lie about any problem that the journalists see in the Islamic community to cover it up.
mortimer says
Dualism in religion and politics are essential parts of Islam. Religion provides a divine mission and politics is guided by revelation. Islam is neither one nor the other, but both.
Quotes from Fr Henri Boulad SJ :
“Islam is at once a religion, a state and a society—din wa dawla.
And so it has been since its very distant origins.
“Islam is politics or it is nothing!” – Khomeini.
‘Submission’ to God, which is the meaning of the word ‘Islam’, is also demanded of the believer towards the State.
Political power is thus entirely devoted to a religious mission.
Islam is the merger of politics and religion.”
Lavéritétriomphera says
“‘Submission’ to God, which is the meaning of the word ‘Islam’, is also demanded of the believer towards the State.”
This is called: monarchy by divine right “This is God’s will”
Ben voyons
James Lincoln says
It should be the goal of all French citizens to be (erroneously) classified as islamophobes.
Frank Anderson says
James, there are some of us who would consider being concerned about islam being correct, not in error. Of course, there are others who consider being concerned about anything that is intent on destroying freedom, liberty and the United States to be an error. I think you and I have no problem with being in that kind of error to other people. Best wishes.
gravenimage says
Frank, I think James means that it is erroneous being called an “Islamophobe”–not that critics of Islam are in error.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I agree on James’ intention. I wanted to emphasize that he, I and you are in a constant state of error as far as our enemies are concerned. In another note I hit on an illustration that came to mind after doing some work in my shop today:
A rifle weighs about 8 pounds, or 56,000 grains. With the cartridge I loaded today, a bullet weighing 150 grains is pushed out of the barrel by 57 grains of gas that started as powder. The rifle is 270 or so times heavier than the bullet and gas which leave the barrel.
It takes the whole rifle and all of its parts to launch the bullet to do the work at hand. Except for the bullet, powder and the microscopic amount of chemical in the primer, everything else stays with the rifle ready for the next shot. It takes ALL of the parts, those which leave the barrel and those who remain “at home” to do the work. All tools including weapons can be used for many purposes, good and evil.
That inspires my illustration that ALL islam is a deadly weapon that has killed between 250 and 1000 million people, enslaved billions and wasted 1400 years with crime. Playing word games of debate and indecision only allows more time to continue.
mortimer inspired my insight with his comment. I thank him. I had a professor in law school who was an extreme liberal while I thought myself to be very conservative. From him I learned much and was prepared far better than I knew for the second state bar exam which I passed comfortably. I honor and appreciate people who help me learn.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Frank, and good analogy.
James Lincoln says
Frank Anderson says,
“I had a professor in law school who was an extreme liberal while I thought myself to be very conservative. From him I learned much..”
I have friends who are liberals who will still engage in a spirited debate. I can learn from them, and – hopefully – they can learn from me.
The “Far Left”, in contrast, will simply shut down / cancel any dissenting opinions.
Frank Anderson says
James, that great professor was teaching me from 1978-79. I dread to think what would be taught now. For several reasons I remember him with great honor and respect. I had a chance to tell him that during a visit.
gravenimage says
Agreed, James.
gravenimage says
France: ‘Investigating political Islam quickly comes down to being called Islamophobic in public’
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This is from Muslims and French dhimmis. Then there are the threats and worse from Muslims–including as above Charlie Hebdoe and Samuel Paty, where any criticism of Islam is met with murder.
libertyORdeath says
How many times have we had to hear about how every conservative is a racist terrorist because a few people threatened AOC or Omar?
Why does the same logic not apply to these cases?
gravenimage says
And I don’t know anyone who agrees with threats. But Islam teaches the threatening of Infidels–and violence if they do not submit.
Rufolino says
No. It is submission, or death. There is no via media for Islam. It gives meaning to the ‘total’ in totalitarian.
gravenimage says
Rufolino, Muslims are indeed taught to warn Infidels before attacking them. Some hold to this, and some just assume that they have already been threatened and cut to the chase.
OLD GUY says
Islamophobia = Intimidation to hide the EVIL TRUTH about Islam.
gregbeetham says
We know Islamophobia is rubbish and can be dismissed based on the plentiful available evidence; just for starters, not all Muslims are terrorists but almost every terrorist is a Muslim, and really, what else do we need to know about Islam? That isn’t an exaggeration when you look at the sheer number of murderous attacks and atrocities, 40863, carried out by Muslims just since 9/11. (see https://thereligionofpeace.com/)
At some point we who are still free are going to be forced to realize that it is a case of them or us but I don’t know if we have the gumption to do anything about it; judging by the track record of Islam over the last 1400 years we should know what the future holds if we do nothing and keep retreating.
Myanmar and China stopped retreating and I have some hopes about Poland and Hungary.
Our Achilles heel is the Left, the bleeding hearts, the tree huggers etc. who live in denial, I doubt that they can be convinced about the threat that the toxic cult of Islam poses because they seem able to ignore evidence that stares them in the face.