The Taliban declared that their red line for withdrawal is August 31. Word now is that Biden has accepted the red line.
President Joe Biden plans to stick to his August 31 deadline for U.S. troops to leave Afghanistan, an administration official said Tuesday.
Earlier, Biden and other G-7 leaders met virtually to discuss the situation in Afghanistan, with several pushing for him to keep U.S. troops in the country beyond next week’s deadline to facilitate the ongoing evacuation effort.
And Biden told our NATO allies and everyone else, except the Taliban, to go fly a kite.
Biden had previously promised to get everyone out. So much for that. Even getting all of the Americans out by August 31 will be a tall order.
The Biden admin is spinning this as a deal with the Taliban in which the Jihadists won’t interfere with the evacuation in exchange for Biden honoring their red line.
Like all deals with the Taliban, this one is worthless and meaningless.
Biden is also trying to blame this on the military, with his people claiming that it’s a military recommendation. You would think after getting blamed for Biden’s disaster, Milley and the rest would have grown a backbone.
But no such luck.
Basically, Biden is sticking with Plan A. Get out, claim mission accomplished, and expect plaudits. He’ll get them from Jennifer Rubin, but not from anyone with a soul.
It goes without saying that Afghans with visas will be left behind. The question is will Americans be left behind in Biden’s humiliating retreat?
Steve says
Americans will be left behind. So the question is how many Americans will be slaughtered on beheading videos, IF the MSM will show them, before Americans replace Biden?
mortimer says
Grovel, grovel. The reply should be to return troops to the air bases and sniper teams to all high places in Afghanistan so that thousands of Talibans may be slaughtered before they can consolidate their hold. Once they consolidate their positions, they will be ten times harder to expel.
NOW is the time to pursue a murderous, relentless extermination of the Taliban once and for all.
If it is not done NOW, all free countries will pay TEN TIMES or even ONE HUNDRED TIMES more in the future in order to stop these terrorists.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I know you have the idea that there are only a handful of Taliban, and that if they are taken out that Afghanistan will be a civilized place where everyone embraces democracy and women’s rights, but I see no evidence that this is so.
gregbeetham says
Yes, but I would drop at least three airborne divisions on the outskirts of Kabul so the Taliban rats can be trapped and exterminated. They deserve nothing less because they have reneged on their side of the agreement not to obstruct those wishing to leave or conduct search and seizure of those they want to execute such as former government officials and interpreters for the US.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Aug 24, 2021 at 1:42 pm
@ mortimer
Do not trust pathological Joe Biden or Jake Sullivan, they are preparing to leave USA citizens behind, blaming some registration process that they did not do, then point to how many Afghans theyairlifted out.
Will never trust them.
Reply
The above is what I posted earlier.
mortimer says
His Fraudulency Joe-mentia Beijing-Bribed-man has created America’s biggest HOSTAGE CRISIS EVER. As commander-in-chief, he should be immediately relieved of command, arrested and COURT-MARTIALED.
His Fraudulency has given the most disastrous military order in American military history.
Another person should tell the American forces to kick the Taliban out for the third time. When the US forces return, the Afghan army will revive and they will kick out the Taliban.
Someone with a non-DEMENTIA brain has to give the order.
The Bribed-man should be ARRESTED.
HE IS MUCH WORSE THAN A DRUNK DRIVER AT THE WHEEL.
gravenimage says
There is no accuate figure on the number of Americans still in Afghanistan–itself absurd–but it still appears to number in the thousands.
SweetOlBob says
The Airlifted Afghans will all be filthy muslims. Th American Citizens left behind will be Christians. Do you see obama’s* filthy handprints yet ?
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Biden is the biggest loser the world has known, he cannot get anything right. How can any leader leave his people behind, when there was no sane reason to do this. He chose to leave his people behind, 8 billion dollars of equipment, Bagram air base to the Taliban.
Withdraw 2500 troops. then send 6000 troops to kabul airport airlift 30 000 Afghans who might be Taliban, cannot give a number of US people airlifted out.
What an idiot.
mortimer says
The Bribed-man is SENILE … the result of MULTI-INFARCT DEMENTIA.
owensgate says
Pushing that senile old fart to run for POTUS was nothing short of felony senior abuse.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
What the issue is: that every one who knows Biden from his school days to present,says he a nice guy but dumb.
By golly, not a day goes by without Biden proving them right.
gravenimage says
Grimly accurate, Malcolm.
Phil Copson says
Malcolm (South Afric) says: “What the issue is: that everyone who knows Biden from his school-days to present, says he’s a nice guy but dumb.
By Golly, not a day goes by without Biden proving them right.
gravenimage says: “Grimly accurate, Malcolm.”
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No, you’re wrong: Biden has never, ever, been a “nice guy”. From the first, he has shown himself to be an amoral, conscienceless, pathological liar – prepared to say absolutely anything to advance his career, and – to judge from the account above of his ever-shifting position on Afghanistan – equally willing to deny that he ever said it, if another course looks more profitable.
He lied about his educational achievements / lied about which college he attended / repeatedly stole from others’ speeches / and claimed others’ life-stories as his own. This is all minor stuff, but informative.
His aim from the word “Go!” was to become a permanent member of the political-class, and to manoeuvre himself into a position in which he could corruptly enrich himself.
He has become immensely wealthy through selling access and influence, and finally reached the position in which his crowning achievement has been to sell out the people of Afghanistan, America and the Free World.
This is not being “dumb” – it is the behaviour of a criminal psychopath.
Even now, with disaster looming, his only thought is to come up with whichever lie will get him off the hook; despicably, he even tried to use his dead son, Beau, as a theatrical prop’ – re-inventing him an Army Major who’d served in Afghanistan, whereas he was in the Navy, and served in Kosovo.
The probability is that Biden has now rounded-off his long career as a crook, by becoming complicit in the genocide of much of the Afghan people, and the end of the Free World.
in more sensible times, the treacherous Benedict Biden would be boiled in oil on the White House lawn, blown from the mouth of a cannon, or hung.
In these less vengeful times, he calculates that as long as he keeps on lying, and others are too corrupt, compromised, weak, and unprincipled to call him out on those lies – he will get away with it, and he’s probably right.
gravenimage says
Phil, I replied to Malcolm’s post of Aug 24, 2021 at 3:48 pm, as you can see if you trace it back, which reads:
Biden is the biggest loser the world has known, he cannot get anything right. How can any leader leave his people behind, when there was no sane reason to do this. He chose to leave his people behind, 8 billion dollars of equipment, Bagram air base to the Taliban.
Withdraw 2500 troops. then send 6000 troops to kabul airport airlift 30 000 Afghans who might be Taliban, cannot give a number of US people airlifted out.
What an idiot.
…
I was not replying to his later post.
James Lincoln says
Phil,
Excellent post, my compliments.
That being said, Joe Biden has actually fooled countless people over the years with a tissue-thin veneer of being a “nice guy”.
He is most definitely not – once you scratch the surface.
Ade Fegan says
Yeah .. and just watch him botch that too
CogitoErgoSum says
Biden’s incompetence is beyond belief. He was worried about 2,500 soldiers who could protect themselves but he’s willing to just write off 10,000 or more completely helpless U.S. civilians. Well, he has one week left to pull off some kind of miracle. I wish him best of luck with that but the man inspires no confidence at all as to his ability even to make it across the room without stumbling and breaking his arm or leg. Right now it looks as if the man has fallen and he can’t get up … and he likes lying on the floor and having the Taliban use him as their doormat.
gravenimage says
Agree, CogitoErgoSum.
somehistory says
Not to worry…omar, a.k.a. elmi, tlaib, pressley, aoc and xyz will see that he keeps his word to the terrorists.
The Navy Seal has volunteered, if given 9 guys, to go in and bring out the Americans.
biden and milley and the other what’s-his-face, blinken or maybe elmi would insist on the others being trans or at least, trans sensitivity trained.
It has to be a terrifying thing for those Americans…told not to listen to the news, because they aren’t coming home…who listen and find out, they aren’t coming home.
The taliban and al queda terrorists do not know mercy…but will likely have some extra sex slaves and some “converts” to islam come September 1.
Infidel says
Since the Taliban have proven that they call the shots, they should order us to withdraw every infidel out of Afghanistan – be it Christian, Sikh, Zoroastrian or whatever, but leave all muslims behind. Certainly the Afghan ones
That will solve the problem we have of getting unvetted Afghans
gravenimage says
There are very few non-Muslim Afghans. Statistically, Afghanistan is 100% Muslim. I have seen estimates that there are around 5000 known Christians there, all converts. I hope they get out.
Infidel says
Aside from them, there are a handful of Sikh and Hindus, all on their way out. Only one Hindu priest has resolved to remain there and die there if needed. Well, his call
But statistically, you’re right: Afghanistan is 100% muslim
gravenimage says
Then, there is the famous lonely “last Jew in Afghanistan”–who has decided to stay despite attempts to rescue him:
https://nypost.com/2021/08/21/last-jew-in-afghanistan-will-stay-put-in-kabul-despite-efforts-to-rescue-him/
I hope this decision doesn’t cost him his life.
gravenimage says
Biden Accepts Taliban Red Line, Will Leave By Aug 31 Regardless Of Who’s Left Behind in Afghanistan
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Unbelievable. This is essentially *deciding* to leave Americans behind.
CogitoErgoSum says
If the Taliban has anyone in charge with a brain that functions better than Joe Biden’s (and I’d say that’s pretty much a certainty) they would wait until the American military has fully withdrawn from the country and then open up the main airport and allow all U.S. citizens to leave safely. It would further humiliate Biden and make the Taliban seem respectable to the world. They would get more out of doing that than anything else. That may be their plan; however, I don’t know if they can control their need to take revenge by killing and raping Americans though. I also suspect if they do let any Americans go it will be because they were paid an enormous ransom to do so. (Joe loves handing out money.)
CogitoErgoSum says
You know, on second thought, the Taliban may do as I described above not with the aim to humiliate Biden but actually to make him look good. I don’t think they would want to risk losing him as President of the U.S. since he’s doing too good a job at destroying the U.S. for them. So my optimism about the American citizens getting out of Afghanistan is improving and the odds of Biden leaving office grow less. Biden is the wild card in all this though with seven days to go.
gravenimage says
CogitoErgoSum, the idea that the bloody Taliban’s main aim is to look respectable to the outside world seems sadly unlikely–this is an outfit that has recently set a woman on fire for “bad cooking”, has gone door-to-door demanding children to “marry”, and has reportedly raped dead bodies. This does not seem to be a group concerned about the outside world considering them to be civilized.
CogitoErgoSum says
Okay, remind me again in seven days.
gravenimage says
CogitoErgoSum, I pray that you are correct. I don’t want to be right here.
Phil Copson says
CES didn’t say that “looking respectable” was the Taliban’s “main aim”…
The “least worst” option is that the Taliban calculate that releasing foreign nationals unharmed, and refraining from taking revenge on Afghans, will pay them dividends by helping to keep the Democrats in office, who will continue to pay them the jizya.
The worst option is that the Taliban slaughter their captives / trade them to other terrorist groups, but this then increases the likelihood of the Republicans being returned to office, and possibly taking action against the Taliban.
Can’t see any country being mad enough to co-operate with the Biden admin on any military action in Afghanistan or anywhere at all, but a Republican admin headed by Trump or Pompeo would be a different story.
The only good things likely to come out of Biden’s vicious betrayal of the Afghan people and NATO, are (A) that Arab countries will coalesce around Israel to protect themselves against Iran, and (B) that the “Visegrad 4” countries – Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic – will be strengthened in their determination to protect their borders, their countries, and their culture.
James Lincoln says
Phil,
Unless the totally fraudulent 2020 US Presidential Election is rapidly pulled down, and Pres. Trump is returned to the White House, the United States will soon become unrecognizable.
I’m a retired US Navy 0-6, 26 years, did my part for the United States in support of worldwide GWOT operations, and am now wondering – unbelievably – if I should now learn some Hungarian.
Viktor Orbán, Judeo-Christian values, beautiful Budapest / Lake Balaton – and muslim – free…
Infidel says
James
Pick Polish over Hungarian. As you know, Hungary is a belt/road participant and also aligned w/ Turkey. If you are open to Buddhist countries, Vietnam is a good alternative as well: in fact, the miniscule muslim population that Vietnam ever had was expelled to China, of all places
James Lincoln says
Thanks for your reply and info, Infidel.
OLD GUY says
You can not deal with the Taliban, Biden and his administration should know that. The only thing the Taliban recognizes is military strength and an ass kicking.