My latest in PJ Media:
As the twentieth anniversary of the 9/11 jihad attacks draws near, nearly 1,800 people who lost loved ones on that terrible day have made it clear that one person they don’t want to see at anniversary events is Old Joe Biden. And it’s not, as you may have expected, because they don’t want commemorations to descend into a platform for yet another one of Joe’s embarrassing displays of his rapidly deteriorating mental state.
NBC News reported Friday that the Dotty Puppet is not welcome at events in New York City and Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the plane on which courageous patriots foiled the jihadis went down, “unless he upholds his pledge to declassify U.S. government evidence that they believe may show a link between Saudi Arabian leaders and the attacks.”
The families explained in a statement: “We cannot in good faith, and with veneration to those lost, sick, and injured, welcome the president to our hallowed grounds until he fulfills his commitment.” They insisted that they were not acting upon some crazy conspiracy theory: “Since the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission in 2004 much investigative evidence has been uncovered implicating Saudi government officials in supporting the attacks. Through multiple administrations, the Department of Justice and the FBI have actively sought to keep this information secret and prevent the American people from learning the full truth about the 9/11 attacks.”
Brett Eagleson, whose father was killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center, said: “We are frustrated, tired and saddened with the fact that the U.S. government for 20 years has chosen to keep information about the death of our loved ones behind lock and key.”
Even what is known about Saudi involvement in 9/11 is disturbing enough. The 28-page section of the 9/11 report detailing Saudi involvement in the jihad attacks was finally released in 2016 (albeit with substantial portions still redacted), and it is now clear why one president who held hands with the Saudi king and another who bowed to him worked so hard all these years to keep these pages secret: The report shows that it is highly likely that the 9/11 jihad murderers received significant help from people at the highest levels of the Saudi government.
The details are sketchy, but damning. The report states that Omar al-Bayoumi, who “may be a Saudi intelligence officer,” gave “substantial assistance to hijackers Khalid al-Mindhar and Nawaf al-Hamzi after they arrived in San Diego in February 2000. Al-Bayoumi met the hijackers at a public place shortly after his meeting with an individual at the Saudi consulate.”
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DBM echo says
While some were out-of-towners most of the people who died in the plane attacks on the Twin Towers and the towers’ subsequent collapse were residents of the surrounding NYC area. Translation = most were Democrats who voted that way. The traditions of deep-blue voting continues.
gravenimage says
I mourn the victims of Jihad. I’m not going to parse how they might have been registered.
Frank Scarn says
I think the point being made is that these people continue to elect as leaders those who have enabled the jihadists to have their way with us. The Democrat Party is CAIR’s party of choice.
gravenimage says
Frank, this is I agree absolute foolishness and very dangerous.
But I am not going to regard the victims of Jihad purely by how they may have been registered to vote. The Jihadists regard them all as filthy American Infidels who all deserve to die, and don’t care if they are registered Republicans or Democrats.
gravenimage says
9/11 Families Tell Biden He’s Not Welcome at the Memorial Events
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Nor should he be.
Infidel says
Yeah, but it’s also time to add Bush and Obama to that list. Not sure about Trump: I believe that he was in the process of declassifying that
Giacomo Latta says
Obama should be unable to make such events not because of his left-leaning but because of the blood on his hands and on those of Hillary with regards to the abandonment of a former ambassador/sacrificial lamb to a decomposing Libya. About 120 Democrat eyes looked the other way on that one.
mortimer says
Leftists may attend this event but they will not denounced jihadism.
The evidence points to the 9-11 terrorists being in contact with Saudi intelligence and being financially supported in the US by funding from the Saudi government.
The US government doesn’t want this information out because it would destroy all political relationships with Arab governments.
Giacomo Latta says
Correction: 120 million eyes
gravenimage says
Bush made a lot of mistakes, there is no doubt–especially believing and parroting the “Islam is a religion of peace” crap. But he is still a patriotic American–can you imagine how much worse it would have been if Gore had been at the helm in 2001?
He probably would have regarded the attacks as sa cry for help over “global warming”…
I can’t find *anything* that Gore has said about terrorism–save for characterizing Republicans as engaging in “political terrorism” for sporadically threatening to shut down the federal government over disagreements regarding economic bills.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2013/09/27/al-gore-current-political-terrorism-shows-us-the-need-for-a-center-for-effective-public-management/
James Lincoln says
gravenimage,
Yes, Pres. George W. Bush is a “patriotic American”.
That being said, he has been – and apparently still is – completely ignorant regarding the very basics of islam.
And that profound ignorance has cost the United States blood and treasure in both Iraq and Afghanistan…
Infidel says
The ‘Religion of peace’ crap is not why I am dinging Bush here. His decision to allow Saudi nationals to flee back to their country before they were even investigated for their links to this attack, and that too when all other air traffic in the US was suspended for the days following the attack, is why people have been scathing about him. And it’s fair to question his loyalties if Saudis – the main perps behind the attack – walked unscathed while he verbally attacked Iran, Iraq and threw in North Korea to prove that he wasn’t ‘islamophobic’
As a comparison, even Obama believes the Religion of Peace crap, assuming that he’s not a closet muslim, but that didn’t stop him from recognizing that Pakistan was lying to him and authorizing the secret operation to take out Osama
gravenimage says
Thanks for the replies, James and Infidel–I agree with you both about George Bush.
Infidel, as far as Obama goes, I think he was likely presented with the intel on Osama bin Laden, and realized the blowback he’d receive if he prevented taking him out.
Walter Sieruk says
No sensible person of clear contagion will blame the surviving family members of those murdered by the Muslim terrorists of al Qaeda for not wanting that pro-Islamic awful man Joe Biden to attend any planed 9/11 memorial events .
Even regardless if he release information on the Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia involvement in that jihad network murderous affronts which occurred on September 11, 2001.
For Biden Is very willing to “bend -over- backwards ” ,even literally he was able to do so . To appease and please the Muslim tyrants who rule Islamic countries , as those of Saudi Arabia as well as Muslim dictators of other Islamic nations ,who totally detest the United States of American and her US Constitution.
Walter Sieruk says
There’s no valid reason that the surviving family members of those murdered by the Muslim terrorists in those Islamic terror jihad attacks twenty years ago would want that pro-Islamic ,un-American awful man, Joe Biden to be with them at any of the 9/11 memorial events..
Very understandably, even the sight of creepy old Joe at any any of the 9/11 ceremonies would be an affront to them.
Fitna says
If your friend murders someone and you hide that friend and lie to the cops about his location, then you are just as culpable for the crime as your friend is.
The trouble is that we have no accountability for elected leaders. So they get away with covering up for enemies of America. Obama and anyone else involved in protecting the Saudi govt and everyone involved in the 9/11 attack is just as guilty as the terrorists.
The only reason those pages are ‘redacted’ is because they are protecting the real culprits who organized and funded the 9/11 attack, either because they are friends or they were bought off.
What’s worse is that Obama scrubbed all training material that pointed to Islam as the root cause of global Islamic terrorism. All that will do is make the fighter longer and harder than it needed to be.
I know a lot of people on the Right love Trump, but he’s an egomaniac…rather than fix Obama’s mess and expose the Saudi govt, he had dinner parties with the enemies of America…so how was he any better than the scummy Democrats?
We need someone strong like Ted Cruz or John Bolton who know what’s really going on and see Muslims as the enemy not allies. They’re not all evil obviously some are good, but most are the enemy, just like Nazis/Germans during WW2.
gravenimage says
Trump was hardly perfect–overall better then the Islamophiles in office now, though.
Mae~mae says
I second that. There’s always something people have to complain about to reason away all those policies he created to help millions of Americans to keep their unreasonable hatred going. Some people just can’t handle someone being straight up and blatant. They can’t handle unless it’s being sugar-coated for their sensitivities.
Mae~mae says
I second that. There’s always something people have to complain about to reason away all those policies he created to help millions of Americans to keep their unreasonable hatred going. Some people just can’t handle someone being straight up and blatant. They can’t handle unless it’s being sugar-coated for their sensitivities.
gravenimage says
Mae~mae, I think that Fitna is right that Trump’s schmoozing the murderous Saudis was a serious problem–taking issue with this is *not* “unreasoning hatred”. All I was saying is that overall he certainly had a better understanding of the threat of Islam and kept us much safer than Hillary Clinton ever would have done.
James Lincoln says
Way better, gravenimage…
gravenimage says
Agreed.
Spideyweb1 says
There are millions of conservatives in the state of New York and the surrounding Borough and Westchester counties… I’m one of them.. So don’t think the whole state is as rotten as the American Marxist swine of NYC and all points between..
Jobama is welcome to hold a solemn memorial in Saudi Arabia with his Jihadi Jo’s ready at the helm to attack non-Muslims around the world.. and to be sure.. the two jihadi congresswomen will be there with CAIR claiming, FALSELY… that the Muslims are in danger.. with Joe’s blessing.. a total filthy disgrace of a man and as a fake president. GOD BLESS AMERICA ?? GOD BLESS DONALD TRUMP ?? ? hair rules
gravenimage says
Thanks, Spideyweb1. The same is true here in California where I live–still some patriots here despite its generally being a blue state.
Mae~mae says
Qur’an 9:111 and traitors is why 9/11/01 happened. The verse quite literally sanctions it the even and with the matching numbers to further back that claim. Seriously, what are the odds of that? Every one thousand years. Unfortunately, the caliphate here in America has been working hard from within our very own minds (indoctrination, propaganda, Islamic deception) over the past 20 years to turn many Americans minds to eventually think like them.
#DestroyingAmericaFromWithinOurOwnMinds
#InsidiousJihad
#IslamsSinisterSecrets
Walter Sieruk says
There’s no rational reason why the surviving family members of those murdered in those Muslim terrorists attacks would want that despicable pro-Islamic terrorist bogus President to attend any of those 9/11 memorial ceremonies..
gravenimage says
+1
OLD GUY says
Whats amazing to me is that these three pictured here are supported by vary rich and educated citizens of this country. They agree with the socialist ideology, thinking their cushy life style won’t change and that they are helping the poor. Don’t see it. Helping the poor comes with education, training and employment, not hand outs.
These three support anything and everything that brings America down.
gravenimage says
Agreed.
joan_of_ark2005 says
With a lot of things I read, I like to get in between lines, and get to the details of the matter.
With saying that, I’m NOT trying to blow off the 9/11’s commission, BUT…..JUST BECAUSE our government showed us that huge “book” with a whole lot of lines blacked out, are we supposed to believe everything they tell us, even if they told us?
So, the story goes, that the Saudi’s had a hand on putting muslim pilots in those planes. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE, AND WHERE IS IT…..that the Saudi’s did all or a lot of what went on at 9/11.
If it’s just our lying leaders, telling all the mainstream news, to put that out there (that it was Saudi Arabia), are we all going to believe them? Of course our government will either make up some stuff that isn’t true, or show us something that has nothing to do with anything, and the weak little “americans” will believe everything they say, and show.
I’m sorry, but I can’t. To take that first and second tower down, took possibly a year in preperation for it, if not more. And a lot of “know-how” on explosives.
But is it just that we get oil from them, and that’s the reason, our government won’t put alledged people in prison for that horrendous act? It’s not like them to be quiet about who did it…
But wait! Our tv news plastered some pictures, that they showed us on tv, night after night, of all of those young muslims (Saudi muslims, of course).
Those pictures of those guys went away from our sight, and maybe I missed it, but what did our government do with those people (who I think they just made up some pictures, and they weren’t even real people), did they put them in quatamino (spelling horrible)? Have we heard anything else, about those guys? NOPE, I haven’t heard anything.
And so back to this 9/11 report, let’s say that our government told us what was under all those blacked out lines…..are you going to believe them? I wouldn’t believe our government, as far as I could throw them (not far at all!).
So why, every Sep, do people wake up, and start the arguing again, about the 9/11 report? It HAS to be full of lies, anyway!! Oh well, the government is good at lies, so maybe they could throw some out there, to appease the hollering people….
I could imagine any one of the last few presidents, saying “throw those people a bone to chew on to shut them up (or, “lies they could throw out there, and people would think that those lies were truth, and they’d calm down”)
And THIS country punishing Saudi Arabia? Ok, how about a few sanctions on them? Because all of the young men in all those pictures, HAD TO HAVE BEEN Saudi muslims, for the first reason, because our government said they were (Saudi’s anyway), and THEY wouldn’t lie to the American people, right? And two, those pictures were all Saudi’s, because they looked like Saudi’s…..huh?? lol.
But I’d love to hear what some people think, would be the best punishment for Saudi Arabia, just because our government is hiding what’s in that report (and I’m bettin their doing that, to keep the suspense up, because there’s really nothing written in those blacked out lines, lol)
Now I can understand how someone is still upset, about one or more of their family members dying THAT MANY years ago, but really….!! You would think, by how some Americans act around this time of year, that what’s in that 9/11 commission report, is GOLD!
I had someone die on me, that I loved very much, and actually didn’t know HOW much until he was gone. I spent days, then weeks, and almost a month, crying, hurting, so I can somewhat relate to what these people must have gone through…..I would never joke about the seriousness of that!
But there’s a certain point, where I’m sure, ALL people finally have to dry up the tears, and slowly and painfully get over it, and slowly get back to the living. But it’s been HOW LONG NOW? And they STILL wanna know what those blacked out lines have under them (do they think that it would be a life changing experience, to know????).
And after all these years, WHAT would be good punishment for Saudi Arabia? I’d love to ask those 9/11 people who are still angry. What I can tell they HAVEN’T done, is RESEARCH! There’s more than enough people online, who know the truth, and have spoke it, wrote it, it’s all out there, videos, documents….these people need to find out WHO really did 9/11…..I’d say there’s more evidence of THAT, than the evidence THEIR looking for!
As for asking Biden not to attend…good job!
gravenimage says
joan_of_ark2005 wrote:
So, the story goes, that the Saudi’s had a hand on putting muslim pilots in those planes. WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE, AND WHERE IS IT…..that the Saudi’s did all or a lot of what went on at 9/11.
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Of course, the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report has no information on Saudi involvement in 9/11 is incorrect:
“Confirmed: Top Saudi Officials Aided the 9/11 Jihad Plot”
https://jihadwatch.org/2016/07/confirmed-top-saudi-officials-aided-the-911-jihad-plot
Saudi Arabia has long been identified as one of the major sources of funding to Al Qaeda–and 9/11 was plotted and executed by Al Qaeda.
Moreover, the sneering implication that involvement by a funder of Jihad terror and Shari’ah state in the worst Jihad terror attack of our time is implausible is truly bizarre. In fact, fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were Saudis. Not proof in and of itself of official Saudi involvement, but it does point in that direction.
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If it’s just our lying leaders, telling all the mainstream news, to put that out there (that it was Saudi Arabia), are we all going to believe them? Of course our government will either make up some stuff that isn’t true, or show us something that has nothing to do with anything, and the weak little “americans” will believe everything they say, and show.
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Odd that joan of ark here considers the US government completely unreliable, but seems to have no such problems with Saudi Arabia…
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I’m sorry, but I can’t. To take that first and second tower down, took possibly a year in preperation for it, if not more. And a lot of “know-how” on explosives.
But is it just that we get oil from them, and that’s the reason, our government won’t put alledged people in prison for that horrendous act? It’s not like them to be quiet about who did it…
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I see no indication that planning 9/11 took a year, but let’s say it did. The idea that Muslims in general and Saudis in particular would be incapable of paying attention to anything for so long is truly odd. In fact, Jihadists regularly carefully plot over long periods.
Then, the part about explosives is utter claptrap. Popular Mechanics has debunked this claptrap.
Note that joan of ark seems to have no problem with the idea that you can pack a commercial building ful of explosives and that either no one will notice or that everyone will keep quiet about it–incuding building security and maintenanance. Grotesque calumny.
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But wait! Our tv news plastered some pictures, that they showed us on tv, night after night, of all of those young muslims (Saudi muslims, of course).
Those pictures of those guys went away from our sight, and maybe I missed it, but what did our government do with those people (who I think they just made up some pictures, and they weren’t even real people), did they put them in quatamino (spelling horrible)? Have we heard anything else, about those guys? NOPE, I haven’t heard anything.
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Coverage of even the most momentous event eventually becomes less intense over twenty years. The idea that since the images of the hijackers are not being shown 24/7 at this point means that they are–somehow–false makes no sense at all.
joan of ark may not have noticed, but coverage of WWII is not as intense as it was 80 years ago, either…
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Now I can understand how someone is still upset, about one or more of their family members dying THAT MANY years ago, but really….!! You would think, by how some Americans act around this time of year, that what’s in that 9/11 commission report, is GOLD!
I had someone die on me, that I loved very much, and actually didn’t know HOW much until he was gone. I spent days, then weeks, and almost a month, crying, hurting, so I can somewhat relate to what these people must have gone through…..I would never joke about the seriousness of that!
But there’s a certain point, where I’m sure, ALL people finally have to dry up the tears, and slowly and painfully get over it, and slowly get back to the living. But it’s been HOW LONG NOW?
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In other words, get over it, you filthy Infidels! Good lord. Not only is this grotesque in and of itself, but the demand that we simply accept Jihad terror attacks is terribly dangerous–it is like 80 years ago demanding that the victims of Nazi atrocities simply allow the Fascists to continue to conquer them.
How can joan of ark have failed to notice that Jihad terror *is ongoing*? This has not simply gone away–while no Muslims have actually been able to pull off any single act of Jihad terror as massive as 9/11, there have been almost *40,000* Jihad terror attacks since then–and they are *hardly* showing signs of going away.
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And after all these years, WHAT would be good punishment for Saudi Arabia? I’d love to ask those 9/11 people who are still angry. What I can tell they HAVEN’T done, is RESEARCH! There’s more than enough people online, who know the truth, and have spoke it, wrote it, it’s all out there, videos, documents….these people need to find out WHO really did 9/11…..I’d say there’s more evidence of THAT, than the evidence THEIR looking for!
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The Saudis are *not* our allies–and we should not pretend that they are. This would be the case even if they were not one of the actors behind 9/11.
As the ranting about who is “really” behind 9/11, this usually involves some often contradictory claims about George Bush, Jews, the owner of the WTC (never any explanation of the Penatgon and United 93 in this one), Jews, armaments companies that wanted to start wars in the Middle East, Jews, Mossad, “Islamophobes” who wanted to make Muslims look bad, Jews, the US government, Jews…oh, and Jews.
Or sometimes, just like joan of ark here, they are simply oddly coy about the perpetrators
*Certainly* not Jihad terrorists, though. Never any explanation of why Muslims were celebrating an attack that just made them look bad for no reason.
And if 9/11 was not an actual Jihad terror attack, what about those other 35,357 Jihad terror attacks (as of this date)? Are all of those–even those deep in Islamic nations–all pulled off by mean old Infidels, as well?
Walter Sieruk says
As one Arab scholar who had lived in a Middle Eastern country, for many years revealed “Saudi madrassa notably teach hatred and condemnation of the West and non-Muslims” and “The Saudi Government also provides free textbooks to Islamic schools throughout the world . many of the Saudi- Issued textbook’s contain wording that encourages hatred and intolerance for non-Muslims.” [1]
Saudi Arabia in many ways is no better than Iran.
[1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel, page 106
Walter Sieruk says
The Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia has not and will not spare any of its vast oil wealth as to use its financial resources to fund and promote the advancement of Islam by and through the jihad. By this it means both the stealth jihad and even the subtle support violent jihad.
As explained, for example in the book HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANGE THE WORLD by William Wagner. For on pages 109, 110. The reader is informed that “The Wall Street journal on April 15, 2003 published an article titled ‘In law Seminars, A Saudi Group Spreads Extremism.’ The article began by saying ‘In late February more than 300 young men from across Europe gathered for a weekend seminar on Islamic Law put on by Al-Waqf al-Islaami Foundation.’ The article went on to explain that the most famous graduates from the seminar were half a dozen members of the group of young men from Hamburg, Germany, who plotted the September 11, attacks. The language of the was Dutch, but ‘the message was imported from Saudi Arabia, via Saudi books and lecturers who taught a strict orthodox interpretation of Islam.’ “
Further on the very same page of 110 the information is given that “TIME MAGAZINE , in an article on Saudi Arabia: Inside the Kingdom,’ stated ‘Apart from channeling money to foundations that have assisted terrorist groups, Saudis have for years supported institutions abroad the propagate Wahhabism.’”
So with that Islamic regime of Saudi Arabia and its oil money support the different type of the jihad, both stealth and the violent kind, with its Islamic agenda advancement and spread , influence and infiltration of the Western nations ,this kingdom of Saudi Arabia is no friend at all of America or any other country of the West.