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June 23, 2007

Swiss trial convicts two Muslims accused of supporting terror on Internet

Six-months sentences. What will they do when they get out?

From the Associated Press (thanks to Steve):

A Swiss court on Thursday convicted two Muslims for supporting a criminal organization by running Web sites that posted statements from al-Qaida-linked groups and showed executions.

The main defendant, Moez Garsallaoui, a Tunisian, was sentenced to six months in prison and given an additional 18 months suspended. Malika El Aroud, widow of an al-Qaida suicide bomber, received a six-month prison sentence suspended for three years....

The two were accused of running Web sites that supported terrorists and gave details of how to make bombs and carry out attacks. They were detained in February 2005 during anti-terror raids in two Swiss cantons, or states, the Federal Criminal Court said.

The suspects, who are now married to each other, were released on bail after their initial detention and had moved to Belgium.

Posted by Robert at June 23, 2007 1:21 PM
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They should also be banned from using the Internet.

The question though, is how long you jail such people for. 6 months? 2 years? 10 years? Forever?

The easiest solution is to deport them, if they are not born in Switzerland - Saves the taxpayer money.

Posted by: Rogster [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 1:29 PM

Yes, deport them from Eurabia - to Uranus.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 1:40 PM

Wow, that is amazing that Belgium will take them. Is that normal? Do they not have restrictions on criminals and terrorists immigrating to their country?

Posted by: Kay [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 2:00 PM

I think we talked to a couple didn't we? lol.sorry

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 2:18 PM

Thank God they did not have children! Two pieces of scrap would make.....abunch of scrap materials!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 2:22 PM

A new twist to the angler's "catch and release?" Those Swiss are so ecology conscious, Belge too. ;)

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 3:06 PM
A Swiss court on Thursday convicted two Muslims for supporting a criminal organization ...

Convicted of supporting a criminal organization ?

Is that the legal phrase or something the reporter made up ?

Posted by: joeblough [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 4:46 PM

Another slap on the wrist...The jihad marches on.

Posted by: mrockroll1969 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 6:13 PM

If I were POTUS, I would grab the Swiss ambassador by the collar, drag him to the White House, and tell him that this Swiss neutrality crap is over, now and forever. I would reinforce the you-are-with-us-or-against-us philosophy.

Mohammedans the world over better pray eight or nine times per day and thank their whatever that rash, unpredictable, jerks like me, aka Pelayo, can never get elected president.

If an Aarmageddon like war is on the way, sooner better than later.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 7:00 PM

Pelayo...I bet you would shut down the US, Mexican border too...if there was one...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 8:36 PM

swiss cheese. holes abound in their justice system. a rat will soon bite them in their candy ass.

still smokin a monte.

Posted by: winston [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 11:13 PM

Closing the borders in time of war?

What an original idea!

Posted by: joeblough [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2007 11:21 PM

Swiss trial convicts two Muslims accused of supporting terror on Internet

Six-months sentences. What will they do when they get out?

Uhh.. start another jehadist website? Or.. join the jehad in a more personal way perhaps?

What gets me is this: "The suspects, who are now married to each other, were released on bail after their initial detention and had moved to Belgium."

They just UP AND MOVED to Belgium??!!!

Just like THAT!! ?? !!!

The Belgians have NO IDEA of course who is coming into Belgium and that these people are ON BAIL??!!

On bail for jehadi activities!!

JUST how EASY is it to move to Belgium??!!

Guess that makes Belgium the easiest country of them all, doesn't it?!

Belgium and Holland will be part of the umma in NO TIME it would seem.

Lux will have to choose between Germany and France. If I was them I'd go for France at this time. The French seem to be going in the right direction finally..

We Germans have ABSOLUTELY NO political party that represents the common people at this time! Sound FAMILIAR!! ?? !!

Well, it SHOULD!!!

I hate to say it, but we Germans aren't too democratically-inclined by nature and when things get tough we will get going. In a major nasty way, I am afraid.

The fact that our POLOticians COMPLETELY ignore the "Volkswillen" ie. the "people's sentiment" proves that it isn't the general population of Germany which is failing in democratic sentiment, but rather those Germans who manage to attain Higher Office via the acquiescense and the complavency of the working populace.

We have former anarchists and stone throwers [Joschka Fischer], former terrorist defense attorneys [Christian Ströbele - known to have smuggled messages in and out of jail like that fat woman did here in New York - at least she was convicted, if NOT sentenced properly] in the HIGHEST positions of government in our Nation and now we wonder why we are reaping what THEY have sown and continue to from their positions as judges and administrators when they aren't members of Parliament [Bundestag]. Yes, our German capacity for Democracy may not be much better than that of the "Iraqis" if I say so MY VERY OWN DAMN KRAUT SELF!

SHAME ON US!!

And shame on Belgium for allwoing these rats into their formerly very nice and lovey coutnry which I enjoyed visiting so many many times.. I weep for you, Belgium..

.. no more "moules et frites" avec de la bière!!

Restant sur la plage dans le soleil.. Forever gone!

I shan't miss Holland quite as much, but as my European brothers, I am in deep dispair over your fate.. one which is fast enveloping my Germany as well.

Once more only occupied Poland and France.. roused by an embatteled Britain shall ROUSE US ALL to FIGHT!!

Having to read this stuff here in the [relative, temporary I know] comfort of my voluntary NYC "exile" gives me great pain indeed.

The Swiss are doing better than the rest of us.. see banning minarets and yet, they give these peopl BAIL and they FEED so many of them with welfare paid for by the regullar Swiss Citizens..

The Swiss may well be the BEST among us for now in Europe [which may explain why they choose to stay out of the E.U.S.S.R.] and yet we have to see even THEy hand out such ridiculously lenient sentences to those who come to Europe to OCCUPY US ALL!!!!!

At least the Nazis met with MORE Resistance than Collaboration!!!

Now we have to see our enemies enjoying the benefit of 99% COLLABORATION and only 1% Resistance!!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE, GODDAMMITTTTT??!!

Holger Danske!!! Please Vågner for ALL of Europe!!!

THAT is the TRUE European Spirit in my eye!!

WE ALL MUST STAND together AS ONE!!!!

And we MUST STAND IWTH ISRAEL!!! They ARE quintessentially EUROEAN.. I say they may well be MORE European than most of us at this time!!

We [Kain] who slew our brothers [Abel].. have NO OTHER CHOICE but do right by those we wronged if we are to be redeemed some day.

At this time our prospects seem bleak indeed, but I will continue to sound the moral beacon as loudly as I can!

Damn.. I would stand with Israel and the "Jooz" simply because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO! But for those who are less morally inclined.. let me tell You.. making a DEAL with the ISLAMIC DEVIL will only serve to PISS OFF whatever GOD we all serve!!!!

F•cking Germans love to go to Israel for the beaches.. I think #2 behind US Americans in Tourist numbers...

..They are DAMN NICE to German tourists over there from what I hear! And to other Euros..

And YET we allow our POLOticians to undermine them! We ALLOW them to give money to Hamas and to Fatah.. which is really ONE AND THE SAME!!

HOW the F*CK can any of us look our Israeli Hosts in the eye.. doesn't matter if we are paying them or if they are putting us up for free - as they feed and medically treat pali terrorists for ferr - HOW the F*CK can we LOOK them in the eye and say THANK YOU for YOUR HOSPITALITY and YOUR UNCONDITIONAL FRIENDSHIP in the face of our ever-increasing shameful political record as manifest by the resolutions and the actions of the "European Union" as well as our individual governments??!!

Belgium has NO Right to host islamist terrorists who are awaiting trial in Switzerland.. yet the Siss Justice System should never have granted them bail.. nor should they have given them commuted and reduced sentences.. UNLESS they were ready to DEPORT these fools!!

THIS is once more the time to REMIND *all* our "western" guvmints of their sworn DUTY to UPHOLD OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS and to "keep harm from the German people" [as per our post-war American-assisted Constitution].. I am certain that there are similar clauses in all or most our Western Constitutions!

YES, We the people ALL OVER the "WESTERN DEMOCRATIC" World REMIND our RULERS to TREAD VERY CAREFULLY INDEED!!!

WE "ELECTED" YOU!!!!

We are beginning to feel you are cheating on us.. reneging on the deal, if You will.

Consider this a GLOBAL WARNING: The ice upon which you tread is beginning to be VERY DAMN THIN!

We are NOT STUPID!! We are simply WAY TOO BUSY WITH WORK to always keep checking on you!!

We've been TRUSTING you until recently. But that deal IS UP!

Hey, chalk it up to Bitch Laden to blow your cover and make us all hit the nascent net to connect and communicate without INTERMEDIARIES like the NYT and the WASPOST and the LAT and REUTERS and the BBC and NPR and PBS...

This thing called the internet may yet be the saviour of US ALL!!

They can squelch talk radio in the USA [which doesn't exist anywhere else as far as I am aware] and yet we WILL COMMUNICATE FREELY until the day they find a way to block this too.. And then there will be bulletin boards.. like we had back in the day.. there will be WAYS we will communicate FREELY from NOW ON and there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY you can ever put this genie back in the bottle.

Dan Rather is dead. There will be no New King!

Proof: We have learned of this lenient Swiss judgement of these jehadists and their "moving to Belgium" - as if that were the most normal thing in the world - simply by loggin on to JIHADWATCH!!

May Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald LI/OVE LONG AND PROSPER indeed...

Same wishes to Marisol and whoever else is on your staff!

I salute and give THANKS and PRAISES to SHEIK YERMAMI in AUS and to PI.de and to the great FJORDMAN and to SHIVA and all to the other FREEDOM BLOGGERS whom I am reading but fail to mention by name here.

Thanks and Praises go to eveyone who keeps commenting in these forums.

Without YOU i'd be sitting alone in my room.. thinking AM I TRULY INSANE to think that this islamic menace is ANYTHING but peaceful and benign??!!

Without YOU all.. I mean Every SINGLE ONE one of YOU.. I might well think by now that I am a "racist" and delusional European white male
who simply doesn't understand the aspirations of the "masses of the oppressed People of Color".

What a CROCK!!

THEY are oppressing more people of color and of no color and in-between than anyone ever has!

See India and Thailand and Indonesia and Western Africa.. and Eastern Africa.. and beyond!!

I truly wonder what Koolaid our so-called Western 'leaders' have been drinking.. they are here to represent OUR INTERESTS!!!

Belgium!! Are you throwing these bastards OUT, now that you KNOW what they've been doing in Switzerland??!!!

I bet the Belgian Citizens would love to have a go at that one! Just don't send the cops to intervene!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 12:58 AM

Pelayo...I bet you would shut down the US, Mexican border too...if there was one...
Posted by: duh_swami'

I know I WOULD!! All the troops we have in Iraq.. They could EASILY shut down both the Southern AND our Northern borders!

So I don't want to hear this BS if we don't "fight them over there we will have to fight them over here" crap..

We won't HAVE to fight ANYONE who cannot get in here WITHOUT a visa when they can no longer cross our borders as ffreely as they do now!!

Nor should we have to accept hundreds of thousands of 'students' from SOWdi Barbaria since we all know WHO is responsible for not only 9/11 but counbtless other plots.. some of them averted, by the Grace of God!

I truly think a President Giuliani would do a whole lot more than what we are seeing now.. He shut down the Mob in New York.. and they are of his own 'ethnicity', as an interviewer I saw taking him on point out.. to which Rudy replied.. a lawbreaker is a lawbreaker.. I am an American I am not anything else. As a district attorney I represent the interests of all the people in my district and all the people of the United States.

So what he seems 'autocratic' and 'tough' at times.. I argue this daily with my NY liberal friends..

We NEED a Churchill type - NOT another Bush or worse a ROTTEN CLINTON!

If the French can elect [by quasi a landslide] a no-nonsense son of Hungarain immigrants then WHY can't the USA FINALLY open up to a Catholic [in name only] Son of Italian Immigrants?!

I'm a German.. does that mean i can only support someone who has a German pedigree.. [like Ike Eisenhauer by the way] ??!!

Americans.. you truly need to see beyond your narrow religious and ethnic perspective.. Do You truly prefer a born-rich trailer-trash "protestant-in-name-only" Hitlery who thinks she is somehow "entitled" to the Presidency when we ARE AT WAR with militant islam??!

Or do we stand together and ELECT the MAN most CAPABLE of FACING DOWN this mortal *ENEMY*??!!

We KNOW Rudy told the SOWdis where to shove their money when they told him to denounce Israel for $10m in post-9/11 aid!

I saw him return their check PROUDLY!

IN THEIR FACE!!

This guy is NO George "dubya" Bush!!!

I say we need a tough and honest no-bullshyte Sicilian on the job next time around if we are to remain FREE!!!

No more Yale-boys whith fake Anglo names!

No more "skull and bones" Georgie going against "skull and bones" Kerry!!

STOP the Anglo name-recognition aleady!!

This Rudy I am talking about has got some GUTS and his heart is in the right place.. And he's a Yankee fan through and through where I am a total Mets fan and a Yankee Hater!!

Who cares about petty baseball stuff when our enemies assassinate their cricket coaches [see Pakistan] for both a losing record and for not letting them perform moslem prayers?

Let's hope neither [the Yankee who became a Mets Manager] Willie Randolph nor Joe Torre will ever have to be subject to such barbarity.

Here in New York you can work for George Steinbrenner but the worst that can happen is you get fired with full salary while you spend time in Europe or in Florida..

The guy is fascist but in America he is well-contained. Just imagine he was running Iran!

or Germany LOL....

We are SO STUPID to allow our enemies inside our wonderful countries, my dear friends!

I love all our Western Nations AS THEY ARE!!

I love their individual characteristics.. and all I wish is they can stay as I remember them from my extensive travels..

I do NOT wish to see mosks and burkas and all this islamist CRAP next time I come around to take account of Europe!!!

And yes, I will be there soon. I want to see for myself!!!

And then I will report in detail to all of you!

The good and the bad!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 1:31 AM

"The Jooz" are truly the "chosen".. as I understand it now. For whatever [divine?] reason they attract the hatred and the vitriol of the Minions of Satan.. be they German Nazis or other European Anti-Semites.. or be they the islamists who consider the Jews the "original sinners" for reason that they were the FIRST to resist the 'call to pigslam'.

So.. as a 'devout' agnostic [NOT the same as an atheist in ANY WAY AT ALL] I have to say that I sometimes wonder if there is indeed some higer, divine plan/will at work here. Why on Earth would all the Mineral oil suddendly be found underneath islamic soil - just when ALL OF US had finally vanquished this particular evil and were well on our way to liberate even some of the more open and receptive among them..

And suddenly this Wealth and thereby Power is thrust in their hands by ABSOLUTELY NO DEED OF THEIR OWN!

Was it the Devil who thrust this deadly weapon of unearned Wealth and money into the hands of those who hate and resent us?

It does make one wonder.. even a "devout" atheist such as I am.

How can it be that God places the ultimate of wealth beneath to soil of the Children of Baal.. not a DROP underneath the soil of Israel?!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 3:13 AM

"What will they do when they get out?"

Or even more maddening, what will they do while they are still in jail? Here in Holland there was the case of Mohammed Bouyeri, the murderer of Theo van Gogh. It became known to the public that Bouyeri was allowed to read all sorts of salafist literature in prison, all paid for by, the way Hugh puts it, the long suffering Western taxpayer. There was some outrage about this, but some government spokesman could not even see why there was something inherently wrong with this "policy". One also recalls an example in Melanie Phillips' "Londonistan", where Tony Blair states that the judiciary should be in our team in the "war on terror". One elder judge arrogantly dismisses this, as if it were ridiculous beyond compare. A great part of our judiciary thinks of itself as some kind of stable factor that does not have to take in account trivialities like the outcome of elections. That is what is worrisome.

Posted by: Tristan Weitenberg [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 5:35 AM

Wow, Allahfanculo, you surely know how to say it!

You are reflecting the exact same frustration we have here in the States.

My favorite of your witty quips:

Damn.. I would stand with Israel and the "Jooz" simply because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO! But for those who are less morally inclined.. let me tell You.. making a DEAL with the ISLAMIC DEVIL will only serve to PISS OFF whatever GOD we all serve!!!!

****


And you an atheist?

Keep typing, we are listening!

Posted by: Kay [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 12:25 PM

And you are also right about this:


What would we do without the internet? Thank God for this wonderful gathering place. At least we can gather with like, it seems like the rest of the world has gone insane.

Posted by: Kay [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 12:27 PM

It does make you wonder when you read the Old Testament about why Jehovah told the Israelites to slaughter the Arabs living there. It says that he wanted to punish them for their vile practices of child sacrifice to their evil god, Molech, the god of death.

History seems to be repeating itself clearly between these two cults.

Posted by: Kay [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 12:38 PM

Allahfanculo, Does not your guvment keep an eye on the elaborate islamic network that has been operating in germany for decades? Germany is one of their central bases. I wouldn't be surprised if muslim brotherhood had a thriving illegal immigrant operation handing out aliases and legitimate I.D.s sending their muslims to all corners of the E.U. Sorry, sweetie, but I can tell you they won't stop until they've taken over the E.U. and established sharia law. They are already doing it through judicial systems throughout the world. Our own U. S. Supreme Court Has decided that NG enemy combatants should have the same rights as uniformed military under the geneva conventions. Once the courts start making the calls in wartime rest assured we won't be able to set off a fire cracker without their approval.

Posted by: imamerican [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 24, 2007 7:33 PM

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