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April 8, 2007

Islamic group denies "uncovered meat" mufti sacked

Now he's sacked, now he's not. An update on this story. "Islamic group denies mufti sacked," by Taghred Chandab and AAP in the Brisbane Times:

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils has denied reports it has sacked controversial Muslim leader Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly as mufti of Australia.
AFIC president Ikebal Patel says a Fairfax newspaper report that the group's abolished the role of mufti and cut all ties with the sheik is wrong.
He says the sheik is still mufti until at least June while a national board of imams decides whether the position should remain and if so who should fill it.
Mr Patel's told Sky News Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly is one of the most knowledgeable Muslim scholars in Australia and one of the most moderate imams.
But he says AFIC has had issues with some of the sheik's comments and if he's to continue as mufti he'll have to follow strict guidelines about what he can get involved in and have English-speakers around him so what he says isn't misinterpreted.

Damage control team.

[...]
AFIC president Ikebal Patel said the organisation had stopped paying the sheik's salary and had no intention of keeping him on as mufti. He also said the organisation owned the title of mufti.
[...]
But the sheik, who is in Turkey at a conference, has established his own organisation in a bid to corner the title of mufti for himself.

Posted by Marisol at April 8, 2007 8:37 AM
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Women are weak in Islam yet they can control themselves with uncovered men. Men who are stronger according to Islam cannot control themselves with uncovered women.

I guess things like self control are not considered a strength in Islam. Thus things like personal responsibility are out the window too.

As a western man I find this a rather important difference in Western and Islamic vales and what are considered strengths.


Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 8:57 AM

the West shows restraints, and this is percieved as weak among muslims.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 9:32 AM

I really must register my organization and declare myself supreme ruler-in-waiting of Australia. Muahahhaah!! It's too easy, no one willbe clever enough to oppose my evil plan. Muahhaha! I'm so clever, and evil. Muahhaha!

Posted by: savitch [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 10:25 AM

Damage control/da'wa:

Infidels cannot be allowed to interpret either the Koran or the imam's words on their own. All must be filtered through Muslims who understand what the infidel must see and hear.

Why is it that no other religion requires such a scrubbing?

Posted by: materialguy [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 11:27 AM

He's sacked, he's not sacked, he's sacked, not sacked...? Maybe this "cat" sheikh has nine lives?

Posted by: Khaybar Oasis [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 12:30 PM

What did Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly exactly say that has upset the Australian muslims so much?

Has he mis-interpreted the message of their prophet? Are his views on islam so abhorrent that he needs to be removed from his post and/or be silenced?

No, what he has said and what he believs in is the correct islam, what he did wrong was to translate the message in a manner that even an idiot can understand. Thereby, removing the excuse of "things being said in arabic cannot always be translated in other languages properly".

So, even if he is removed from his office, even if he is silenced, will the original message of islam be any different?

Wake up our supine, dead brained surrender monkeys of politicians.

What do these muslims have to do so that you get the message? In the name of their cult, they have butchered, they have maimed, they have orphaned, they have amputated, they have imprisoned, they have fought wars, they have invaded and taken over swathes of land previouly beloning to peaceful peoples and converted them into millions of fanatical and suicidal jihadists.

And still it is the religion of peace? When will we learn?

Wake up Nancy Palosi.

Posted by: Hermit [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 12:45 PM

Why is it that no other religion requires such a scrubbing?
Because only arab muslims can send out the BS about the koran and isalm. when a open minded Western person reads the trash from the koran he can see how
it really was born by a mad man , mohummad. and downright evil.
How can any one emulate themsevles after a muderous phedofile false prophet, who was a thief and could not tell the truth, bent rules to suit himself. the koran is an oxymoron cult, no one with any sense could follow such garbage.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 1:17 PM

I guess the cat got out of the bag (or sack)...

Posted by: greatcometof1577 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 1:29 PM

If they keep him on, AFIC endorses his message.
That's all that the infidels in Australia need to understand.

No more muslim immigration to the west.
That's like encouraging termites to move into your home.

Posted by: treehugger [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 1:31 PM


In Politics we have the same debate up here in Canada, the corrupt Liberals that used Tax dollars to finance Elections and Payolla
to businesses in the for of a kick-back donation
was finally caught and the damage-control was to
Fire a bunch of CEO's or Bureaucrats they Appointed , BUT , while the people Fired claimed they Quit , a FOIA search revealed massive Severance pay-outs.

As usual , Tax funded Lawyers defended these weasels to tie up the issue in our Courts and argue what the real definition is of "Severance"
settlement.

Ya know , Quit/Fired , same thing eh.

Posted by: ala-sux [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 3:09 PM

LOL...Hmmm, wonder why the term "sacked meat" came to mind.
Maybe we could convince him to try and convert Lorena Bobbit?

;-)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 3:22 PM

The Daily Telegraph (Sydney), 09 April 2007: Blood money

Posted by: vn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 4:20 PM

I am sure he is one of the most moderate Muslims and that states it completely.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 4:49 PM

The Australian Islamic community is in open support of this obnoxious individual as their representative. Their support and lack of clear voice against the racism and hatred preached by Hilali leaves a smell of rotting meat around their common ideology. Yet, disingenuously, the Islamic community acts surprised and hurt when the broader community acts with distrust towards them...go figure.


see the recent article in the Age
Political storm grows over sheikh's top job


Posted by: raven_ [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 8, 2007 5:19 PM

Right, it's damage control.

Australian Muslims support Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly, "uncovered meat" messages and all ... as much as they dare.

Only, they're not sure how much they dare, and when Aussie resistance to Islam might become serious.

Since it's external pressure making them wobbly, good for those applying the pressure, including Kevin Rudd.

Posted by: David Blue [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 9, 2007 4:39 AM

This time our Cat's Meat Mufti started talking about supporting Iranian Jihad:

In published comments during a visit to Tehran, Iran last weekend Sheik Hilali called on the Muslim world to unite behind the radical Iranian regime and to serve in its "trenches".

The controversial Australian mufti was quoted as saying that the global Islamic nation would never "kneel" to its enemies.
Check it out HERE.
Of course all this will be forgotten in 2 weeks time.

Posted by: Roland [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 9, 2007 5:41 AM

I will bet he stays......Muslims love hate spewing riff-raff like this.....

.....The less common sense a Muslim cleric has , the more popular he becomes...


....Islam is a screwed up thrill kill machine....Muslims enjoy being a part of it...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 9, 2007 6:29 AM

the Article says...Mr Patel's told Sky News Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly is one of the most knowledgeable Muslim scholars in Australia and one of the most moderate imams.
Oh my gosh, one of the most moderate, it is no wonder that the world is full on non stop muslim violence if this man is one of the better Imams.. These people teach their people,,, hmmmm but what...

One Muslim man told me that sex is the reason that they have more than one wife, as when one has her period he has the others to visit.. These poor miserable men dont learn self control...or maybe they cant..
Hermit, you are so right.. and I cant understand why our people are so blind, I can only feel that the media has something to do with the deception.. I have just read in the town hall that thousands of Muslims are becoming Christians...

Posted by: Gaye [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 9, 2007 8:40 AM

There once was a sheik of Araby...

Once upon a time, long long ago, in a place Far Far Away,the British Foreign Office implanted its idea of the "Grand Mufti" into the womb of Israel. His name? al Husseini. His legacy? Pro-Nazi,anti-Israel, anti-West,anti-anything-that-opposes-His (swt)-idea-of-the-idyllic- Islamic-state (swt). His nephew? A hideous creature who disguised his real origins by calling himself Arafat. His legacy? Read the above... His real nature? Everything that even Islam must detest, including his homosexual tendencies. Moral of the story?

If the West is responsible for allowing such vile creatures to exist, let alone enjoy the benefits of their West-backed positions of artificial grandeur, then surely the West deserves what it gets. Ask the Balkans if their memories of the Ustashi are warm and fuzzy.

Posted by: maranatha50 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 11, 2007 5:15 AM

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