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That Ahmadinejad would be considered anything but a thug and a terrorist by any regime on earth is itself a measure of the moral myopia that today blankets the earth. "Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction," from AP, with thanks to all who sent this in:
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's hard-line president called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and said a new wave of Palestinian attacks will destroy the Jewish state, state-run media reported Wednesday.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also denounced attempts to recognize Israel or normalize relations with it.
"There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world," Ahmadinejad told students Wednesday during a Tehran conference called "The World without Zionism."
"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury, any (Islamic leader) who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world," Ahmadinejad said.
Ahmadinejad also repeated the words of the founder of Iran's Islamic revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who called for the destruction of Israel.
"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, who came to power in August.
The Thug-In-Chief also treated his hearers to a bit of conspiracy paranoia:
Ahmadinejad referred to Israel's recent withdrawal from the Gaza Strip as a "trick," saying Gaza is part of the Palestinian territories and the withdrawal was meant to make Islamic states acknowledge Israel.
Posted by Robert at October 26, 2005 9:07 AM
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He should read the Bible. It is Babylon (Iraq and Iran i.e., Babylon reborn) that will be destroyed, not Israel.
Posted by: Bohemond_1069
at October 26, 2005 9:13 AM
The rantings of a dangerous fool who must be taken out.
He and George (Lord Haw Haw) Galloway can sing a duet together, preferably when they are both swinging.
Posted by: dgene
at October 26, 2005 9:18 AM
at October 26, 2005 9:24 AM
I hope that our leaders will heed the advice of Margaret Thatcher: This is no time to go all wobbly!
Show that thug that the West means business!
Posted by: Mark
at October 26, 2005 9:26 AM
How preferable it is to have an muslim who tells us what he really thinks and wants. I'm so sick of the lies and deception from the abbas's and their ilk, some of which even the Israelis themselves are taken in by. Even the weakest, most dhimmi-prone Israeli cannot misunderstand or deny what this specimen is saying and what he intends to do with his nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Infidel33
at October 26, 2005 10:16 AM
Sounds like a declaration of war and an act of war. Israel should immediately nuke Iran. Destroy the government of the Mullahs without further dialogue offering a state of peace if the subsequent government of Iran offers Israel unconditional surrender and peace. What kind of provocation does it take for a nation to protect itself in this world?
Posted by: David England
at October 26, 2005 10:17 AM
Anyone who thinks the civilized world ( it would be nice to say Western but I know better ) will now pay attention and react to this threat of genocide, for that is what this is, had better try waking up from their dream. Jews will always be expendable, especially to Europe.
Posted by: MJ
at October 26, 2005 11:26 AM
WTF
WTF are we waiting for?
Do we have to track an Iranian missile heading to Tel Aviv before we draw the line with this Islamofascist?
If democracies do not stand together against Islamofascism, then we are all in deep trouble.
They see the division in the Worlds democracies as weakness, & act accordingly.
We need a Churchill - but we have Princess Blair, The Future Cuddly Fuhrer of Europe, a Fender Strat wielding weakling with no real backbone & no sense of the lasting damage his politics & party have done.
Posted by: albion
at October 26, 2005 11:49 AM
"Princess Blair"! Oh, how I like that. It's so apt a description!
Posted by: Mark
at October 26, 2005 12:29 PM
If I was an Iranian citizen, this guy would scare the h-ll out of me. I'm not an Iranian citizen and he scares me. He's daring Israel to do something on the assumption that they wont...he better be right. Iranians beware, your leaders are putting you at risk...You should not proceed on the theory that Israel wont act, and you should not proceed on the theory that Iran would win a conflict with Israel. Amahdinejad is gambling with Iran and the lives of the Iranian people. You pays yer money and you take yer chances...most of the time you lose...
Posted by: duh_swami
at October 26, 2005 1:09 PM
In corrupt, totalitarian regimes there's usually a correlation between the amount of bellicose rhetoric directed at foreign 'enemies' and the level of dissatisfaction at home.
Sure enough, Ahmadinejad is already running into domestic political problems.
Just a few months into his presidency, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is already displeased with Iran’s Judiciary and the Legislature. Perhaps the problem was that Ahmadinejad thought that the members of the Majlis (Iran's Parliament) would support him unconditionally, like the aides he chose for his cabinet... As it turned out, four of his cabinet nominees who were also his close aides were rejected outright, while a good number received just marginal votes. In the words of one Majlis deputy, “a faction in the legislature wanted to show who is boss.”
http://roozonline.com/11english/011201.shtml
Interestingly, from the same site:
Tehran Municipality during Mahmud Ahmadinejad’s mayorship experienced as much financial violations as that of three mayors (Karbaschi, Malak Madani and Alviri) added together. This is one of the startling conclusions of the report of Tehran’s Coty Council which has been sent to the Supreme Leader of Iran, a copy of which ROOZ has obtained and publishes some of its part here below.
http://roozonline.com/11english/011092.shtml
Of course, Ahmadinejad's always been a zealot but I suppose we can expect the anti-Israel rhetoric to be cranked up still further as the honeymoon period after his election fades. Although - given the stuff above about 'burning in the fires of fury' - that'll be no mean feat.
Posted by: Effractor
at October 26, 2005 1:43 PM
Taqiyya and Kitman
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Iran 'kept EU talking' while it finished nuclear plant
By Colin Freeman
(Filed: 14/08/2005)
An Iranian foreign policy official has boasted that the regime bought extra time over its stalled negotiations with Europe to complete a uranium conversion plant.
In comments that will infuriate EU diplomats, Hosein Musavian said that Teheran took advantage of the nine months of talks, which collapsed last week, to finish work at its Isfahan enrichment facility.
"Thanks to the negotiations with Europe we gained another year in which we completed the [project] in Isfahan," he told an Iranian television interviewer.
Mr Musavian also claimed that work on nuclear centrifuges at a plant at Natanz, which was kept secret until Iran's exiled opposition revealed its existence in 2002, progressed during the negotiations.
"We needed six to 12 months to complete the work on the centrifuges," said Mr Musavian, chairman of the Iranian Supreme National Security Council's foreign policy committee. He made his remarks on August 4 - two days before Iran's foreign ministry rejected the European Union offer of incentives to abandon its uranium enrichment programme.
"The IAEA give us a 50-day extension to suspend the enrichment and all related activities," he said. "But thanks to the negotiations with Europe we gained another year, in which we completed the [project] in Isfahan."
"Today, we are in a position of power," Mr Musavian said. "Isfahan is complete and has a stockpile of products." Mr Musavian also said that Iran had further benefited from sweeteners offered by the EU, including the invitation to enter talks on Iran joining the World Trade Organisation.
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That article above is also published at
http://memri.org/bin/media.cgi?ID=144305
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The transcript of the interview can be read at
http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=805
Chief Iranian Negotiator on the Nuclear Issue Hosein Musavian: The Negotiations with Europe Bought Us Time to Complete the Esfahan UCF Project and the Work on the Centrifuges in Natanz
The following are excerpts from an interview withIranian chief negotiator on nuclear affairs, and member of the Iranian Supreme Council for National Security Hosein Musavian, which aired on Iranian Channel 2 on August 4, 2005
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Iran nuclear game too close for comfort
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/24/iran.nuclear.game.reut/
TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- U.S. special forces dart through Iran's underground nuclear facilities, gunning down any hapless Iranians standing between them and centrifuges that must be blown to bits.
Much to Tehran's relief, this crack team exists only in a new U.S. computer game. But even these animated saboteurs are too close for comfort, downloadable into Iranian living rooms at the click of a mouse.
The cyberspace troopers have sparked bitter press comment in Iran and a petition asking that the game be shelved.
"Americans have a deep craving for an attack against Iran, but they are going to have to settle for this make-believe assault," wrote the Kayhan daily, whose editor is appointed directly by Iran's Supreme Leader.
"U.S. attacks Iran" is made by U.S. firm Kuma Reality Games whose war games often tie into top news stories.
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Mission 58 - Details
Assault on Iran
http://www.kumawar.com/assaultoniran/overview.php
“If the U.S. attacks Iran, each of its states will experience a crisis the size of Katrina. The smallest mistake by America in this regard will result in every single state in that country turning into a disaster zone.” -Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards spokesman, Brigadier General Masoud Jazayeri, quoted on the Ansar Hezbollah website, September 11, 2005.
Upon completion, Natanz will house a staggering 50,000 uranium-enriching centrifuges.
In 1942, military actions by the Norwegian Resistance Movement and Allied forces destroyed a German nuclear research facility and heavy water materials by using a Norwegian agent to secure detailed plans about the site, ground forces to infiltrate the building, and allied troops to bomb the nuclear plant. Without the initiation of a pre-emptive strike, Adolf Hitler would have owned—and undoubtedly launched—a nuclear bomb.
In 1981, Operation Opera was launched by Israel against France after intelligence indicated Saddam Hussein's regime was within only one year of producing its own nuclear weapons. When France continued to sell nuclear technology to Iraq, Israeli agents blew up the French warehouse that contained the nuclear materials prepared for shipment to scientists in Iraq.
Centrifuges are being built, uranium is being enriched, and the catalyst to World War III is nearing completion.
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Downolad the Game here
http://www.kumawar.com/assaultoniran/overview.php
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IC
Posted by: Informed Christian
at October 26, 2005 1:46 PM
Here we go again. Islam is pieces...(of dead bodies).
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Maybe the devil made them do it.
Posted by: pythagoras
at October 26, 2005 3:01 PM
Thats good news.
Look at it this way, Ahmadinejad just gave Israel the green light to turn Iran into tridymite.
Certainly, Israel should not waste much time. First waste the Iranian Parliament when it is session. THen waste Qom.
That would be a good start.
at October 26, 2005 5:22 PM
As Shy Guy says, it is deja vu all over again. 70 years ago, we were at this same crossroads with Hitler. He had set out his agenda in Mein Kampf 10 years earlier whilst in Landsberg Prison, detailing what he would do to the Jews, Communism etc. We dismissed his words as merely the rantings of a hothead who would soon cool off. We cut spending on the military and were lucky to get the Spitfire, at a time when Germany was furiously rearming and preparing for war. We sold Czechoslovakia down the river in a series of pointless appeasements courtesy of Chamberlain (the weakest Prime Minister Britain has ever had) and Daladier the inert. We saw the results of this appeasement and neglect a few years later, and a Jew who survived the Holocaust offered these wise words to future generations "If somebody says they're going to kill you, believe them. Take them at their word", but today Ahmadinejad and a whole host of Islamists are making similar threats, as ill-disguised as Hitler's, but the Western leaders of today, and their main political opponents, are falling into the same Chamberlainesque trap of appeasement and bullshitting us with "Islam is a religion of peace". Oh for someone with the intuition of John Quincy Adams and Winston Churchill, to deal with the likes of Ahmadinejad, before, as in 1940, we face another Holocaust, but this time it won't be just the Jews, it'll be the whole of Western civilization that finds itself in the firing line, but try making the typical Westerner understand this. What has happened since the end of World War II is we've gone soft and lost our will to preserve our civilization and culture, and I really fear for our great-grandchildren 100 years down the line, who will either be resisting Islamism against the odds, or it will already be too late for them, and they will be born into a global caliphate. What a despicable way to remember the two million US, UK and British Commonwealth members of the Armed Forces who gave their lives in two world wars for the hard-won freedoms we enjoy today, and are now frittering away.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683
at October 26, 2005 5:41 PM
"WTF are we waiting for?"
-- posted by Mark
We're waiting for the Big One, that's what. The stalemate of the past four years shows no sign of breaking until that debacle takes place.
What we do after the Big One is the important part.
Will capitalism prevail over Marxism? Common sense over political correctitude? Nationalism over internationlism? Democracy over elitism? Will Western culture prevail over retrograde multi-culturalism?
If our bad academia, our corrupt judiciary, our disloyal State Dept. and CIA, our craven MSM, and our weak-kneed political leaders lead us to the wrong response after the Big One, then we're sunk for good.
Or, actually, we're sunk for evil.
Posted by: Chaz MarteL 732
at October 26, 2005 7:40 PM
We musn't be sheep and be led to slaughter.
We must all become heros and heroines,
with no fear of the enemy,
sons and daughters of the Free
who will never give up their rights
to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,
never be slaves to a violent warrior
and his bloodthirsty evil twin,
the tribal moon god of arabia.
at October 26, 2005 9:47 PM
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm
Sence we are taken a walk down memory lane??
1941
Jan 22, 1941 - Tobruk in North Africa falls to the British and Australians.
Feb 11, 1941 - British forces advance into Italian Somaliland in East Africa.
Feb 12, 1941 - German General Erwin Rommel arrives in Tripoli, North Africa.
Feb 14, 1941 - First units of German 'Afrika Korps' arrive in North Africa.
March 7, 1941 - British forces arrive in Greece.
March 11, 1941 - President Roosevelt signs the Lend-Lease Act.
March 27, 1941 - A coup in Yugoslavia overthrows the pro-Axis government.
April 3, 1941 - Pro-Axis regime set up in Iraq.
April 6, 1941 - Nazis invade Greece and Yugoslavia.
April 14, 1941 - Rommel attacks Tobruk.
April 17, 1941 - Yugoslavia surrenders to the Nazis.
April 27, 1941 - Greece surrenders to the Nazis.
May 1, 1941 - German attack on Tobruk is repulsed.
May 10, 1941 - Deputy Führer Rudolph Hess flies to Scotland
Biography of Rudolph Hess
May 10/11 - Heavy German bombing of London; British bomb Hamburg.
May 15, 1941 - Operation Brevity begins (the British counter-attack in Egypt).
May 24, 1941 - Sinking of the British ship Hood by the Bismarck.
May 27, 1941 - Sinking of the Bismarck by the British Navy.
June 4, 1941 - Pro-Allied government installed in Iraq.
June 8, 1941 - Allies invade Syria and Lebanon.
June 14, 1941 - United States freezes German and Italian assets in America.
June 22, 1941 - Germany attacks Soviet Union as Operation Barbarossa begins.
In June - Nazi SS Einsatzgruppen begin mass murder.
June 28, 1941 - Germans capture Minsk.
July 3, 1941 - Stalin calls for a scorched earth policy.
July 10, 1941 - Germans cross the River Dnieper in the Ukraine.
July 12, 1941 - Mutual Assistance agreement between British and Soviets.
July 14, 1941 - British occupy Syria.
July 26, 1941 - Roosevelt freezes Japanese assets in United States and suspends relations.
July 31, 1941 - Göring instructs Heydrich to prepare for the Final Solution.
Aug 1, 1941 - United States announces an oil embargo against aggressor states.
Aug 14, 1941 - Roosevelt and Churchill announce the Atlantic Charter.
Aug 20, 1941 - Nazi siege of Leningrad begins.
Sept 1, 1941 - Nazis order Jews to wear yellow stars.
Sept 3, 1941 - First experimental use of gas chambers at Auschwitz.
Sept 19, 1941 - Nazis take Kiev.
Sept 29, 1941 - Nazis murder 33,771 Jews at Kiev.
Oct 2, 1941 - Operation Typhoon begins (German advance on Moscow).
Oct 16, 1941 - Germans take Odessa.
Oct 24, 1941 - Germans take Kharkov.
Oct 30, 1941 - Germans reach Sevastopol.
Nov 13, 1941 - British aircraft carrier Ark Royal is sunk off Gibraltar by a U-boat.
Nov 20, 1941 - Germans take Rostov.
Nov 27, 1941 - Soviet troops retake Rostov.
Dec 5, 1941 - German attack on Moscow is abandoned.
Dec 6, 1941 - Soviet Army launches a major counter-offensive around Moscow.
Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor; Hitler issues the Night and Fog decree.
Dec 8, 1941 - United States and Britain declare war on Japan.
Dec 11, 1941 - Germany declares war on the United States.
Dec 16, 1941 - Rommel begins a retreat to El Agheila in North Africa.
Dec 19, 1941 - Hitler takes complete command of the German Army.
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM SIGHT, WISDOM, STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO STAND UP TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
at October 26, 2005 10:00 PM
All it takes is one Stealth F117 Fighter and
one Smart Bomb and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "toast"!
It is payback time for the Iranian Hostage Crises!
We have the means, do will have the will?
Posted by: learjet0450
at October 26, 2005 10:16 PM
MJ posted as follows:
Anyone who thinks the civilized world ( it would be nice to say Western but I know better ) will now pay attention and react to this threat of genocide, for that is what this is, had better try waking up from their dream. Jews will always be expendable, especially to Europe.
It is most important that the Israelis themselves take this threat (not the first from the Iranian regime)seriously. Any doubts they have about the political and military advisability of a pre-emptive strike should be replaced by careful planning and risk-assessment at this time. There are great military risks, and victory is by no means assured, but continuing to wait indefinitely is ultimately far riskier. As for the political considerations, well they should be consigned to the rubbish bin. The Israelis will be hated by Arabs, the Europeans, and the US State Department. So what else is new? Would anhiliation be preferable?
at October 26, 2005 10:56 PM
This is not new rhetoric, but a reaffirmation of a policy that goes back to Khoemani as if his "son" has assumed the throne. Only this time the Islamic Bomb may be finding its next nest in Iran. And I worried about Pakistan, at least we have Musharaff with economic incentive.
But back to Iran, its sad on so many levels, the moderate movement cant excellerate momentum for a different revolution and this guy is islotating the country further away from what Iranians need which is a stronger economic reform(One can wish)
Even Europe is within range of the upcoming nuclear arsenal that is going to be in Iran and as the Russians are going to sell the missles, and we can all sit down for a tea party with the mullahs and see who can say Megaton in Persian(Farcee?) the loudest and fastest. Iran I feel is heading the whole region into conflict and it looks like WW3. I listened to Kerry today saying get 20,000 our troops out and a plan for the rest. Yes, only because Iraq is between Terhan and Tel Aviv. Cool Heads prevail, I would normally not get worked up over a anti semetic speech to a bunch of students in Iran, but it seems this group in Iran no matter how short thier lifespan, wants to turn the Middle East into a potential Nuclear nightmare.
But no surprise that this is transpiring, Iran has only been the parent of Hezbelloah, hiding Al Qaeda within its Secret Police, sending insurgents over the border into Iraq, stalling the UN as they get closer to there Bomb. And its all Bush's fault right? I havent agreed with everything the administration has done, but I wholeheartedly support any plans of "carpet bombing" this regime before it gains the upperhand, and thats what this race is about in the game of Nuclear Poker, the upperhand. I sometimes think we wasted our time in Iraq and should have gone into Iran(more wishful thinking)
Even France is waking a little in its slumber as Iran begins to rattle the Sword. The problem I see is that nothing is going to be done untill its to late and the Iranians have the uppperhand. All the leaders are going to their Iranian ambassadors and saying Bad Iran on your statements and they just smile back and keep working on their "peaceful" Nuclear Program.
Go White Sox
at October 27, 2005 2:10 AM
There's nothing like hearing the real intentions of radical Islam straight from the horse's mouth. There was someone from the UN interviewed on the radio this morning who was asked if Iran should be expelled and immediately went all wibbly as you'd expect from the fools that govern us. These are the same kind of fools who slept all through the fascist threat from Germany until they marched into Poland.
Posted by: londongirl
at October 27, 2005 4:54 AM
RE: I sometimes think we wasted our time in Iraq and should have gone into Iran(more wishful thinking)
The "stage" is being set by being in Iraq. Last week Condi Rice stated that we will have troops in Iraq for at least 10 years.
Posted by: learjet0450
at October 27, 2005 7:52 AM
to see the true colors of iran; see this link below
and learn about this jihad gloryfying pirate flag.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/flags/ir-flag.html
Posted by: francis
at October 27, 2005 8:47 AM


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