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It's gratifying to find someone willing to enunciate unpopular truths in this effete and fearful age. From the New York Post, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
Radical lawyer Lynne Stewart is a traitor to humanity who got what she deserved when she was found guilty of promoting terrorism, one of her jurors told The Post.Juror No. 8, who resides near Ground Zero, staunchly defended the Feb. 10 guilty verdict as a civic duty.
"We were sending a message. We were intending to send a message," he said. "Do not break the law. Do not conspire with terrorists."
Juror No. 8 and his fellow panel members convicted Stewart of being a material witness to terrorism, fraud and filing a false statement while she represented imprisoned blind Egyptian terror cleric Omar Abdel-Rahman, the mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing in 1993.
Stewart, 65, faces up to 30 years in prison. Her sentencing date has been pushed back to September.
They also convicted two of her co-defendants, Egyptian natives Ahmed Sattar and Mohammed Yousry, of shilling for the sheik and touting terror.
Juror No. 8 described Stewart as a bad person whose criminal actions showed she was "socially amoral," "irresponsible and dangerous" and "indifferent to violence."
"She did things that would get people killed. She didn't do anything about it. She just didn't care," Juror No. 8 said.
It's the first time any of the 12 jurors in the historic case - one of the first terrorism cases tried since 9/11 - has publicly commented since the end of the eight-month trial....
He said he was compelled to comment after Stewart blamed her conviction on jurors who were biased by references in the trial to Osama bin Laden.
Juror No. 8 said Stewart's assertion, like much of her defense during the trial, was "insulting."
"Bin Laden didn't have anything to do with it," he said.
Abdel-Rahman was considered so dangerous that he has been holed up in solitary confinement, and the U.S. government imposed prison rules that barred the sheik from communicating with anyone except his wife and lawyers.
No messages were to be passed to or from Abdel-Rahman and his militant followers by anyone.
Stewart signed sworn statements vowing she would not do so.
But she did anyway - to promote terrorist attacks, Juror No. 8 said.
And remember, she did it, she says, to fight sexism and racism. She said that "to rid ourselves of the entrenched, voracious type of capitalism that is in this country that perpetuates sexism and racism, I don't think that can come nonviolently."
One day far in the future an incredulous historian will discover that some people thought of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman and his deadly fellow mujahedin as champions of the struggle against sexism and racism. Today that sort of thing is reported with a straight face; however, I am confident that future chroniclers will not be so circumspect before the bizarre poster child for civilizational suicide that is Lynne Stewart.
Posted by Robert at April 11, 2005 6:03 PM
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Well done jurors,
we all thank you.
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at April 11, 2005 6:22 PM
Thank G-D that there are still people with good sense, may their number increase.
Posted by: Carolyn2 at April 11, 2005 6:51 PM
There's an old saying to the effect that the harder the pendulum swings one way, the harder it swings back the other. And it appears the pendulum is on the back swing against rabid idealogues like Stewart who know nothing about justice, decency or human rights.
Posted by: waterdragon52 at April 11, 2005 7:41 PM
Although I consider myself politically liberal, I must say that I consider these uber left wing warrior-pacifists to be the most vile creatures on earth, even worse than the other two legs of the axis of evil- Islamofascists and white supremicists who support them simply because of their common hatred of Jews and American pluralism. I hope she spends a long, miserable life behind bars.
Posted by: Kuffir at April 11, 2005 10:30 PM
I can only hope that they imprison Stewart in the same cell as the blind 'Sheik'.
To "help fight sexism and racism"
(Since such Muslims are obviously a difference 'race' from the human race.)
And to scandalize the eyeless one for the rest of his life: having to live with a different 'sex' (a woman!) in his proximity. How 'unclean'!
This would be a pefect way for Stewart to get an astringent taste of WHAT she was trying to abet and promote, first hand.
And then let them stew and stew.
For as long as they could both resist the urge to strangle one another.
As Shakespeare said:
"First we kill all the lawyers."
(Now I think I know what drove him to it.)
Posted by: BigSleep at April 11, 2005 11:26 PM
Juror No. 8, you idiot, Lynne Stewart isn't "indifferent to violence" at all: she's for it. To her, it's a "revolutionary catharsis", and to be condemned only when people who disagree with her and her fellow Marxists fight back; whereupon they are invariably called "fascisthomophobemisogynistreactionaryislamophoberacistpatriarchialistswine"--all in one breath. For example, when Brecht's Mack the Knife terrorizes London, it's a worthy exposure of the internal contradictions of capitalism; when similar creatures terrorized East Berlin or Karl-Marxstadt (before it regained its proper name of Chemnitz), it's anti-social hooliganism. Lynne Stewart is a champion of banning all reverent mention of the biblical God as dangerous superstition, but sees the kissing of Chairman Mao's mummified pi-gu honoring revolutionary immortality.
And now, after No. 8 and associates have lost working days, the taxpayers of America get to support their dumpy sworn enemy for the rest of her days at Club Fed.
Posted by: Kepha at April 12, 2005 1:19 AM
Happened to catch Chrissie Hynde of "The Pretenders" fame being interviewed on a BBC schlock-umentary last night talking about animal rights. No longer writing much new material but has dedicated her song I'll Stand by You to the millions of chickens "murdered" in the "Holocaust" for the benefit of us carnivorous heathens. When asked her view on the violence and death threats perpetrated by animal rights advocates against doctors, researchers, McDonald's execs, etc, Hynde averred:
"Well, they have to be stopped somehow".
"So you wouldn't consider it terrorism?", asked the off-screen interviewer sheepishly.
(Long pause)
"No".
There you have it; one woman's terrorist is another woman's conservationist.
Posted by: Charles Martel at April 12, 2005 8:10 AM
Charles M.-
Ms. Hynde clearly doesn't understand that the body, to live, is constantly killing microbes, internally and externally, as well as skin and hair mites and other microscopic animals by simply rising, walking, sitting, breathing, combing, washing, or even merely drinking water.
Nature built creation on destruction.
A cruel law, but, unless you starve yourself to death in protest (killing billions of your own innocent body cells!), you just accept it as the hard 'fact of being'.
I like chickens. They are amazingly intelligent if treated humanely. I've had hens for eggs and roosters for fertilizing the eggs. And, when the 'boys' became too numerous and threatened to 'mate' the hens to death, I've had them for dinner.
Humane slaughter of any 'somewhat consciously aware' food source, is the least we can do for these life forms that keep us alive.
It is the 'mundane' model for the Christian Eucharist, and, as many 'primitive' peoples have always done, I apologize to all sentient life forms that I offer up for such intimate transubstantion. (It keeps you conscious and humble.)
Which is more than chickens do to the grasshoppers, worms, baby mice, etc. that they unconsciously devour- with gusto.
Chrissie H. is oneof those modern 'abstracted' folks who think that there is some way, like the Jains in India, to "sweep the bugs out of your path" and "do no harm". But, as Swift said:
"Bigger fleas have smaller fleas upon their backs to bite 'em. And smaller fleas have smaller fleas, and so, ad infinitum."
We're stuck in a brute reality of feeding on life, or killing tiny forms by merely existing (via the immune response, which is primally unavoidable 'violence', even if you are in a coma).
Threatening fellow human beings with death to promote the protection of proto-conscious (at best) chickens, misses the existential point:
you do not win over human hearts toward compassion for other creatures by terrorism.
Islam could learn this lesson as well.
Posted by: BigSleep at April 12, 2005 11:12 AM
BigSleep
So true. And sometimes difficult to know where to draw the line on "sentient" life-forms. A friend of mine (who graduated Yale with a Doctorate at 21) eats only those creatures that lack a central nervous system, as they are less likely to experience pain beyond a reflex response. But even fish are now reported to feel pain and fear, so it will always remain a matter of personal conscience (and taste) as to how high up the food chain and evolutionary ladder one consumes.
OTOH, whether one believes in Divine Creation or Evolution or some combination of the two, human beings are -- by design -- omnivores, so Chrissie and PETA may try to deny their own nature but they face an uphill battle getting the rest of us to live on celery.
I like chickens as well -- both in the meadow and in the pot -- particularly when they have been allowed to run around outdoors and do all the things that chickens naturally do.
Posted by: Charles Martel at April 12, 2005 8:29 PM
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